Kakashi Chakra Inconsistency

[itsxtrayy]

You know how much better he got in a week because you've seen it. Why are you asking me? Lol I just stated facts. How powerful did anyone get any time they got a power-up? How long did Naruto train for SM? How long did Sasuke have MS before he could use amaterasu/susano?

I'm comparing part 1 characters to part 2. Kakashi's limi was 4 when Sasuke's was 2 I think and he was a grown ass man. You obviously get more proficient with techd the more you practice. I don't see the problem here. How many times did he spam kamui in the war ar ? How many of those were on target and keep in mind he had kyuubi chakra and other factors.

Kakashi didn't get better, it's an inconsistency in the story, those are two vastly different things that I can't believe you just tried to pass off. And the reason the part 1 to part 2 comparison doesn't work is because it applied to EVERYONE not just one character. The power levels as a whole raised in part 2 so it wasn't a problem, but when 1 character get's special treatment it's a problem. If you would read my thread he used kamui 5 times and 10 other jutsu BEFORE he got any kyuubi chakra at all. When a week ago in universe he DIED after 2 kamui and 9 other jutsu.

 

[vergatul]

Kakashi spamming all his jutsu in the war arc made a lot of people call BS. Obviously Kishi wanted Kakashi to fight most of the war, but his crap chakra reserves wouldn't allow it so the solution? Magically increase his reserves so now we have a "War arc Kakashi" which is BS because the war took place like 3 weeks after the pain invasion don't let the amount of chapters fool you, and i'm probably being generous it was actually more like a week no time to train or increase your reserves at all.

So lets take a look at Pain arc Kakashi's reserves, i'll show every single jutsu he used, and remember: pain didn't kill him he died because he exhausted all of his chakra.

Pain Arc Kakashi:

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1 Earth Wall:

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5 Raikiri:

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1 Lightning Beast:

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1 Lightning Clone:

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1 Hiding Like A Mole:

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2 Kamui/Kakashi so depleted he dies:

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Kakashi used 11 jutsu and he was so drained he died, this is his limit about a week or two before the war arc, now lets compare this to war arc Kakashi before he ever gets any kyuubi refill.

War Arc Kakashi:

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5 Raikiri:

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Kakashi is still fighting even though it's nightfall:

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1 shadow clone/Kakashi worried about his chakra:

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1 Lightning Chain:

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2 Raikiri Stream:

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5 Kamui:

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1 Earth Wall:

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I found a scan, Naruto got sent to the island 3 days after the kage summit and the war started that same day:

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15 jutsu, plus he fought the whole first day, and probably used moves off screen. And instead of twice he used kamui 5 TIMES in succession, but when he warped Sasuke's arrow four days earlier he was wobbling from 1 kamui:

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Kakashi should of died from chakra exhaustion after he warped himself out of Kamui dimension or when he was warping Naruto, actually, it should of been earlier since he fought for a whole day before he arrived.

Now, some people might say his chakra got replenished before he met up with Naruto but that doesn't matter because he still used 12 jutsu 5 of which were kamui and 1 shadow clone which splits chakra in half. The 5 kamui is the real problem tho. If 11 jutsu killed him a couple weeks ago, 12 should still do it.

Do you agree/disagree? Have a different explanation? Thanks for reading.

You are 100% right mate, but i dont understand what you expect from others now. I agree with you and there is no doubt about it. Kakashi in and post war arc is just bad writing. Fairy tail kind of. Just scream louder and spamm kamui. Its bs, i know.

 

[Dantee]

Indeed straight BS.

 

[Nick01]

Please explain to me how Kakashi increased his proficiency with all his techniques in the 3 days from the Kage summit to the start of the war.

He only got better once he started using them more. I'm also sure you can mold more chakra while not engaged in a fight, which means he can reuse more jutsus. The Kamui also didn't affect him as much, because he started getting used to using it.

 

[itsxtrayy]

He only got better once he started using them more. I'm also sure you can mold more chakra while not engaged in a fight, which means he can reuse more jutsus. The Kamui also didn't affect him as much, because he started getting used to using it.

Before the war arc Kakashi only used kamui on 3 occasions, against Deidara, twice against pain, and against Sasuke in the kage summit. Then all of a sudden he's spamming it in the war arc, you don't have a valid point my friend, he just started spamming it with no drawbacks during the war. How do you get used to something you only used 4 times?

Every person has a set amount of chakra what do you mean mold more outside of battle? if you mold all your chakra during training and you mold it all during battle you've molded the same amount please explain what you mean.

 

[itsxtrayy]

Indeed straight BS.

Lol, this is why I call people out who act like Kakashi has more chakra than Sasuke, smh

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Kakashi didn't get better, it's an inconsistency in the story, those are two vastly different things that I can't believe you just tried to pass off. And the reason the part 1 to part 2 comparison doesn't work is because it applied to EVERYONE not just one character. The power levels as a whole raised in part 2 so it wasn't a problem, but when 1 character get's special treatment it's a problem. If you would read my thread he used kamui 5 times and 10 other jutsu BEFORE he got any kyuubi chakra at all. When a week ago in universe he DIED after 2 kamui and 9 other jutsu.

He obviously did get better and more cost efficient with chakra. If people didn't improve Kakashi and Naruto would be knackered doing just 2/4 chidori's. Everyone grew in power, not that it's even relevant. People come back better and stronger. Build a bridge and get over it, ffs. It's not like he was manifesting susano's. Kakashi got special treatment because he continued to hone his sharingan skills? Meanwhile people have infinite chakra and regeneration from being edo tensei'd, becoming juubi jins, getting permanent Hago power-ups and Hashi cells. He didn't even have double MS for more than approx a min or so, ffs.

Why the **** you cryin'. Why you always cryin'. Mmmh Oh my God. Stop ****in' cryyyinnn'~

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[Nick01]

Before the war arc Kakashi only used kamui on 3 occasions, against Deidara, twice against pain, and against Sasuke in the kage summit. Then all of a sudden he's spamming it in the war arc, you don't have a valid point my friend, he just started spamming it with no drawbacks during the war. How do you get used to something you only used 4 times?

Every person has a set amount of chakra what do you mean mold more outside of battle? if you mold all your chakra during training and you mold it all during battle you've molded the same amount please explain what you mean.

All the fights you listed in the war arc happened on separate occasions, although still the same day/night.

Shinobi's can mold/gather more chakra after depleting some by using jutsus. He might've molded more chakra after each encounter, even while talking to the enemy, so he wouldn't run out. Every shinobi has a chakra pool, though some have bigger ones than others. It's also been proven that one can increase the size of their chakra pool. Not saying Kakashi increased his, but that it's possible.

 

[itsxtrayy]

He obviously did get better and more cost efficient with chakra. If people didn't improve Kakashi and Naruto would be knackered doing just 2/4 chidori's. Everyone grew in power, not that it's even relevant. People come back better and stronger. Build a bridge and get over it, ffs. It's not like he was manifesting susano's. Kakashi got special treatment because he continued to hone his sharingan skills? Meanwhile people have infinite chakra and regeneration from being edo tensei'd, becoming juubi jins, getting permanent Hago power-ups and Hashi cells. He didn't even have double MS for more than approx a min or so, ffs.

Why the **** you cryin'. Why you always cryin'. Mmmh Oh my God. Stop ****in' cryyyinnn'~

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Lol, so because you can't refute my argument i'm crying? Ok, i'm remembering your name and keeping a reminder to never discuss anything with you again, since you're one of those people who can't engage in rational discussion's while providing facts to back up your claims. Please never reply to anything i post ever again, I would appreciate it, and i'll do the same to you. I have no desire to have discussions with blind fanboys.

 

[itsxtrayy]

All the fights you listed in the war arc happened on separate occasions, although still the same day/night.

Shinobi's can mold/gather more chakra after depleting some by using jutsus. He might've molded more chakra after each encounter, even while talking to the enemy, so he wouldn't run out. Every shinobi has a chakra pool, though some have bigger ones than others. It's also been proven that one can increase the size of their chakra pool. Not saying Kakashi increased his, but that it's possible.

All of Kakashi's 5 Kamui happened in the Obito battle as well as 7 other jutsu only 3 of them haapened in the 7 swordsman fight. Those are the only fights Kakashi was in. When shinobi run out of chakra theres nothing left for them to mold thats why he told Sasuke in part 1 not to use chidori more than twice. If you try to force out chakra the jutsu won't activate and you might die. And i agree shinobi can increase their chakra pools, but it takes time and definitely more than a week.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Lol, so because you can't refute my argument i'm crying? Ok, i'm remembering your name and keeping a reminder to never discuss anything with you again, since you're one of those people who can't engage in rational discussion's while providing facts to back up your claims. Please never reply to anything i post ever again, I would appreciate it, and i'll do the same to you. I have no desire to have discussions with blind fanboys.

I did refute it lol several times. The manga has been over a year and you're acting like nobody has brought this TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS and unique power-up up before. All I've been doing bringing facts about natural progression and you've just been whining so I'm taking note not to discuss anything with you ever again as you'll just threaten to not be my best friend because I think you're blowing something a little out of proportion. Would you not rather complain about Obito coming back from the dead to give Kakashi PS or would you pop a blood vessel or just flood the place with tears? Blind fapboy? Lol why do you want everyone to be blind? Don't you get that part 2 turned into DBZ and it wasn't just about tactful ninja missions with handfuls of chakra anymore?