Dęvîa Puęrî
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U act as if luffy defeated him on his own ... Or that his most powerful mode was not. Enough for doffy .. He had to use it twice he literally had a tag out..
[Discussion] Weeble>Doflamingo/Kuma/Hancock
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Never said Luffy did, just that the next villain should be stronger. Not to mention Luffy gets stronger and shows new techniques each island, he will be stronger during this arc than he was in dressrosa anyway. But I never said Luffy would solo, maybe Law will fight somebody else or maybe they will tag team again who knows.
Regardless its not like anyone is going to acknowledge Weeble as an opponent stronger than Doflamingo no matter what he does. Too many people are bias and think just because a character looks dumb he's not strong.
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Actually there is a possibility the old woman was taller than her height as of now. Manga artitsts would often use this drawing style to portray old people same as how Makarov in Fairy tail is taller when he was on his prime years. So its probable that he can take on Whitebeard's Spear....
OT: I believe this guy really is Whitebeard's son but Whitebeard did not know of it (one night stand baby maybe?). I doubted it at first and thought maybe this guy is another one of Moriah's zombie but those zombies should show the shadow's personalities as well, not only strength. This weeble is lacking on Whitebeard's character making Moriah Zombie theory not probable. Damn whitebeard might have been really drunk when he did it with that lady XD. Anyways Oda can just change his character since this WB Jr is still young and havent gone through puberty. So as he is WB son he definitely is stronger than Mihawk,Hancock,Doffy and he is still young, mind you (lots of room for improvement).
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Ya but you have to also take into consideration that mihawk and shanks dueled when shanks had both his arms. So same logic young > old so they all seemed to be evenly matched across their timeline. But ya kizaru said mere strength which refers to physical power. But what I think he was getting at was that weeble is an idiot lol.
Dęvîa Puęrî
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if luffy is able to solo weeble then this proves further that he would not be stronger then doffy...
Not even if Zou arc Luffy is >> Dressrosa arc Luffy? Exactly your just proving my point, we got too many dickriders in the OP community.
When will people decide Luffy has surpassed people like Doflamingo? When will people decide Luffy has surpassed Sabo? When will people decide Luffy surpassed Marco?
When they want him to? I'm suppose to ignore whatever Luffy does next arc or who he fights just because people like you feel he shouldn't surpass this person until 2000 arcs from now? I'm getting tired of people putting Top tier level on some big ass pedestal no one can reach except this or that person.
What's wrong with Weeble being stronger than Doflamingo?
people just dont like the idea of someone as ugly as weeble and annoying to the plot as weeble being stronger than anyone else. If he is the next opponent he is gonna be stronger than doffy for sure.
Finally someone not biased. Yeah too bad we are in the minority, the OP community seems to think only cool looking characters and pretty people should be at the Top of power in one piece. They want Luffy to be Roger level when the story ends, but yet every feat he pulls out it has to be downplayed. How can any of these people want Luffy to be at that level when they can't stand any new impressive feat he gains?
Luffys going after Yonko and people still find it appropriate for him not to even be at Yonko FM level?
Zou arc Luffy will be >Dressrosa arc Luffy, Wano arc Luffy >Zou arc Luffy. No one seems to get he gets stronger island to island.
I agree and I think luffy is somewhat close to doffy since he can take on an awakened doffy. Luffy is only gonna improve so it won't be too long till he can take on admiral without losing mid diff. And a lot of ppl on this base have a stupid bias against luffy and ppl like sabo. Some say he was manhandled by fujitora which is so false. G4 shows a lot of potential but it's downplayed like crazy
And I think weeble is stronger, oda used Kizaru to hype him it's to give huge credibility to the hype.
Exactly man, there's something wrong when the majority of the community finds it appropriate that a hypothetical infinite G4 Luffy would get mid-high diff by Marco. That's pretty much a mastered G4 Luffy, you can't seriously sit here and tell me G4 at its fullest potential won't even be able to beat a Yonko FM. The fact that people have come to this conclusion despite having not even seen full potential G4 proves how underrated Luffy really is.
Kizaru is also the same man who fought Marco and he never once said any thing about Marcos strength being fearsome. In fact Marcos kicks did 0 to Kizaru and he just acted nonchalant about it. But yet Weebles was, but sure lets just ignore all that just because Weeble looks stupid so therefore Marco should be stronger.
How do these people expect Luffy to progress?
It's just a trend of being really unfair to the main character. I've seen other communities being more fair nb is a bit unusual with so much hate against G4 potential. Gorosei did hype Marco and his stamina seems impressive but regardless I wouldn't be surprised if weeble is on that level with that level of hype. He also seems to have a growth potential so I agree. I also like extremely dislike the comments saying sabo was manhandled sure he was at a disadvantage but ppl forget what manhandling is.
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U act as if luffy defeated doffy with gear 4th alone... He had to use it twice as well as gamma knife being used on doffy if it takes that much damage to defeat weeble and then some then yes he would b stronger then doffy... It was obvious with doffy that he was shown in beginning of the new world to show that luffy needs allies to even contend with the big guys (mind u doffy is not a big guy)
The fact that u said if luffy solos weeble because he's introduced after doffy to me is invalid..(well if he does) my opinion it would prove that he isn't stronger then doffy because it took to much to defeat him some of which luffy can't even produce that type of damage.. unless by by zou arc luffy can produce a bigger time limit than gear 4th for a straight 50 minutes (it was 2 gear 4ths together someone calculated it I think it was riker) and then A little more I don't understand why he would b stronger then doffy.
Luffy can only sustain gear 4th for about 20 min and then he's done if he beats weeble in that time limit it would prove that he would b inferior to doffy.. As it took luffy a gear 4th a total of 50 minutes to defeat him.. (And gamma knife)
So yeah if weeble lasts longer then the 20 minutes of gear fourth (he should cuz he looks like a tank like his dad ) then he would just defeat luffy then and there because luffy would not be able to defend himself... Do u understand what I am saying? (Feels like I'm talking in circles my bad lol)
There's also the damage factor
If luffy by zao arc can put down weeble with more damage than 2 gear 4ths one gamma knife and one Kong punch and one King Kong punch (broke country) in the 20 minute time limit (going with what we know about gear 4th) then yes he would be stronger then doffy as it took more damage to take him out...
Ppl also downplay what power gamma knife has ... Sure it's not as flashy as gear 4th but it packs if not as much power even more then what luffy dished out as it is literally a one hit ko if landed .. Doffy only managed because of his fruit ability.. Which DOESNOT I REPEAT DOESNOT (for some ppl who believes this) heal him it only keeps his organs intact.. The fact that he survived that along with many gear 4th attacks to the stomach and all over his body proves how much it took to put him down
As for ur bull about weeble being ugly or what ever ivankov is my 5th favorite character... And I think he's strong af despite how he's portrayed/looks .. So looks have nothing to do with it...
U also act as if once a char gets defeated they can't come bag stronger (regardless of training or not..) croc is prime example of this he lost against luffy pre gears but at war luffy stops him with gear attack and he gets up like its nothing...
U also have to factor in that doffy was literally the string that kept a lot of big wigs in check .. U act as if he'd just some villian he's obviously important to the story or oda wouldn't show him so much and explain what he does after his defeat etc .. Look at all luffys other opponents none have seemed to be as important to the story as doffy does and also it seems doffy is about to be saved now is he being saved to be killed idk but w.e that's my points on why I wouldn't just place weeble ahead of anyone especially doffy or even Hancock without any manga evidence besides hype to back it up...
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Quit trying to over exaggerate how much it took to put Doflamingo down. Luffy may have used G4 twice but he only used it the second time for one last attack. So no Doflamingo did not take two G4 onslaughts like your making it seem, in fact if Luffy had just hit Doflamingo downward he wouldn't have needed to use it the second time. He kept knocking him far distances making it harder by having to rush from location to location.
Also I don't even know what your talking about when you say if Zou arc Luffy can sustain G4 longer because that exactly what's going to happen, doesn't have to last 50 mins to defeat DD, who's to say it would only take 30, 50 is just some assumption your going to pull out of your ass. Doflamingo is going to be even worse off against Zou arc G4 which is going to be stronger, faster, and more sustainable than it was on dressrosa. So its not unlikely that Luffy can be stronger than Doflamingo by Zou. Technically he already is because the only time Doflamingo could deal with Luffy was when G4 had run out. What's he going to do against newer, stronger attacks that are going to be shown?
Also Doflamingos importance isn't going to influence whether or not he's going to be stronger than Weeble and that doesn't even make sense anyway. Dofla is a past defeated villain, he isn't going to be more important than Luffys next fight nor is he coming back for another redundant rematch against Luffy. So what significance would Mingo being stronger than Weeble hold, nothing. Nothing other than you wanting him to that's all.