Is Konan more hax than we previously thought?

[Fartman]

Wow. Seriously?

Is there a problem?

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Konan had prep. She isn't so strong without prep.

Still negs most other females. Especially close range ones like Sakura/Tsunade.

 

[6thHokage]

Still negs most other females. Especially close range ones like Sakura/Tsunade.

Katsuyu>Konan

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Katsuyu>Konan

Your mother>Katsuyu

Tell me more about Konan even gets hit plz.

Katsuyu camping just means Konan can prep bigger and bigger explosion traps.

 

[6thHokage]

Your mother>Katsuyu

Tell me more about Konan even gets hit plz.

Katsuyu camping just means Konan can prep bigger and bigger explosion traps.

Why are you giving Konan prep time? She isn't so strong without prep time.

 

[Aznkidd]

Why are you giving Konan prep time? She isn't so strong without prep time.

1 hit to Sakura head and she is dead before summon Katsuya.
And no body eat steak snails...

 

[KingHashirama]

Haxed as a mid-tier character? i think not.


PS: in your set of tiers she'd be high-tier.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Why are you giving Konan prep time? She isn't so strong without prep time.

I'm not but she doesn't just stand there as Sakura or Tsunade camps with their slug.

 

[WalksInShadows]

the only thing that's really hax about Konan is her paper ocean being able to fool Sharingan. Other than that, the things you posted isn't something most ppl haven't known already. She was good for her lvl, but that's pretty much it. It didn't exactly take Jiraiya a lot of effort to render her offense useless, since her greatest strength happens to be her most exploitable weakness: her offense is 100% based on paper.

 

[Prometheus 2000]

This was a good read.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

that was a splendid analysis my favorite part was the psuedo teleporation. I think she is mid tier. Konan needs some more versatility in her arsenal so that her weakness doesn't get her in trouble as much and more powerful techniques.

 

[Icelerate]

Mere paper bombs wouldn't break through Doton: Domu. Quantity < Quality, just because Konan with 4 or so days of prep can produce billions of Paper bombs doesn't add on to the Quality of the initial paper bomb. A paper bomb is a paper bomb, and Kakuzu easily tanked such. Billions more would have the same effect. Nothing changes.

No, the explosive energy of a larger number of paper bombs will stack up and create a much more powerful explosion. Quality>quantity isn't a fact which is true in all cases and even if it was true, it doesn't change the fact that if you keep quality constant but increase quantity, you get a stronger attack. Shinsuusenju's one punch can't do damage to Madara's PS but thousands of those punches can destroy it.

the only thing that's really hax about Konan is her paper ocean being able to fool Sharingan. Other than that, the things you posted isn't something most ppl haven't known already. She was good for her lvl, but that's pretty much it. It didn't exactly take Jiraiya a lot of effort to render her offense useless, since her greatest strength happens to be her most exploitable weakness: her offense is 100% based on paper.

I went over her pseudo teleportation which gives her the ability to launch surprise attacks. Most people agree that spacetime users are hax so an ability similar to it should also be somewhat hax. Konan has the ability to camouflage any of her paper so she can leave some paper on the ground, so when an enemy walks over it, she could make it explode or utilize it to restrain/suffocate/trip them. Her logia hax is very useful because it allows her to take many different types of attacks unharmed. It can even be compared to Obito's in the sense that both characters can go intangible and while Obito's is absolute unlike Konan's, it has a five minute time limit tacked on unlike Konan's. Even if she takes a good amount of damage, she can produce more paper such as when she grew two wings which is similar to regenerating lost body parts. Her ability to be unfazed by attacks is better than Suigetsu because she is not weak to heat and electricity. Her ability to regenerate body parts is much faster than Tsunade's regeneration and takes way less chakra and has no side effects. Her ability to spam projectiles is far greater than Tenten and has an even wider amount of projectiles that she can create and change according to the situation. She uses similar surround and capture tactics by dispersing paper much like Shino but even more effectively considering it took Shino a longer amount of time to surround Tobi (

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. After encasing her opponent with a large amount of paper, with her control over paper, she can crush them much like Gaara does with sand. Overall Konan is very hard to kill and has a variety of innovative ways which she can use to defeat her opponents.

 

[DrProof]

No, the explosive energy of a larger number of paper bombs will stack up and create a much more powerful explosion. Quality>quantity isn't a fact which is true in all cases and even if it was true, it doesn't change the fact that if you keep quality constant but increase quantity, you get a stronger attack. Shinsuusenju's one punch can't do damage to Madara's PS but thousands of those punches can destroy it.

Wrong again, though as Apex said before it's plausible. That delves into real life logic so much, that we can't say for sure if such would happen. That's the problem with relying on world logic, there's reasonable, and then there's overdoing it.

 

[Aznkidd]

No, the explosive energy of a larger number of paper bombs will stack up and create a much more powerful explosion. Quality>quantity isn't a fact which is true in all cases and even if it was true, it doesn't change the fact that if you keep quality constant but increase quantity, you get a stronger attack. Shinsuusenju's one punch can't do damage to Madara's PS but thousands of those punches can destroy it.

I went over her pseudo teleportation which gives her the ability to launch surprise attacks. Most people agree that spacetime users are hax so an ability similar to it should also be somewhat hax. Konan has the ability to camouflage any of her paper so she can leave some paper on the ground, so when an enemy walks over it, she could make it explode or utilize it to restrain/suffocate/trip them. Her logia hax is very useful because it allows her to take many different types of attacks unharmed. It can even be compared to Obito's in the sense that both characters can go intangible and while Obito's is absolute unlike Konan's, it has a five minute time limit tacked on unlike Konan's. Even if she takes a good amount of damage, she can produce more paper such as when she grew two wings which is similar to regenerating lost body parts. Her ability to be unfazed by attacks is better than Suigetsu because she is not weak to heat and electricity. Her ability to regenerate body parts is much faster than Tsunade's regeneration and takes way less chakra and has no side effects. Her ability to spam projectiles is far greater than Tenten and has an even wider amount of projectiles that she can create and change according to the situation. She uses similar surround and capture tactics by dispersing paper much like Shino but even more effectively considering it took Shino a longer amount of time to surround Tobi (

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) than it did

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. After encasing her opponent with a large amount of paper, with her control over paper, she can crush them much like Gaara does with sand. Overall Konan is very hard to kill and has a variety of innovative ways which she can use to defeat her opponents.

I think she used almost all of her chakra into that sea paper bomb, if not i dont think Obito can kill her...

 

[Icelerate]

Update:

Immunity to genjutsu
The fact that Konan can appear wherever she has paper and the fact that she can sense through every single one of them implies that her consciousness is split into all of her paper when utilising Shikigami no mae which makes sense because Konan no longer has a brain but she is still obviously conscious.

Anyhow, genjutsu works by disturbing the flow of chakra to the brain by manipulating the cranial nerves (

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). Konan obviously doesn't have cranial nerves when using Shikigami no mae thus she shouldn't be affected in the slightest. If you are still not convinced, it was Obito's intention to put Konan under sharingan genjutsu from the very beginning (

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). Konan was clearly looking at Obito's eyes throughout the entire fight

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and even coming into

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yet wasn't placed under genjutsu

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when her Shikigami no mae had already long ran out (

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).

 

[Apêx1]

Update:

Immunity to genjutsu
The fact that Konan can appear wherever she has paper and the fact that she can sense through every single one of them implies that her consciousness is split into all of her paper when utilising Shikigami no mae which makes sense because Konan no longer has a brain but she is still obviously conscious.

Anyhow, genjutsu works by disturbing the flow of chakra to the brain by manipulating the cranial nerves (

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). Konan obviously doesn't have cranial nerves when using Shikigami no mae thus she shouldn't be affected in the slightest. If you are still not convinced, it was Obito's intention to put Konan under sharingan genjutsu from the very beginning (

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). Konan was clearly looking at Obito's eyes throughout the entire fight

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and even coming into

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yet wasn't placed under genjutsu

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when her Shikigami no mae had already long ran out (

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).

Makes sense. DB also states that "every part of Konan's body begins to peel away" so she doesn't have an actual brain to control in that form. We see this visually here as well

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so she'd be in a similar situation to Sasori except she doesn't have a heart either.

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[Dannie]

Good read. I would actually place her around Sasori's level. Characters who don't have much of a strong punch in their offense but are still dangerous when left without intel like Sasori's poisons and Konan's paper bombs.

 

[Lariatoo]

Fantastic thread!
Completelly agree with the majority of your points! Im glad that more people are realizing how OP Konan truly is