Theres no way ssg goku is stronger than ssj4 gogeta

[TimothyTheTomato]

In the ssg ritual blue ki appears. Goku never lost ssg he only improves it. Read the manga people abd don't site an interview you can't find and was a while ago

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

"That same interview was around 1-2 years old way before fukkatsu no F was even revealed.

These dumba*** came to that conclusion on their own

Here is the actual interview:

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Tell us why the hair color of Super Saiyan God is red!

Simply because it’s a strong-looking color. I had already used gold, and blue doesn’t look very strong. Visually-speaking, red really is easy to understand.

This interview it came out *way way* before resurrection F was even revealed at all.

It was an OLD BoG interview. Akira toriyama only said that the “colour blue” doesn’t look like a “strong colour” naturally when you speak of “strong colour” you think of the red colour.

He never said that super saiyan god super saiyan was weaker than super saiyan god.

And also that same interview was way before super saiyan god super saiyan was even created. "
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[TheAncientCenturion]

SSJ God Goku almost tore the Universe apart in just several punches to Beerus. In Revival of F, first form Frieza punches SSJ GOhan (Someone who should be at a Full Powered Super Saiyan Level, around Perfect Cell's strength,) and killed him. One punch, casually. Final Form Frieza, which dwarfs the first forms power, was unable to beat Base Goku in that movie despite that feat. Realistically speaking, both Base Goku and Frieza should have been at least if not stronger than a SSJ 3 Goku during the Buu Saga. Factor in the strongest Super Saiyan transformation yet, and it's a no brainer.

SSJ God Goku is >>>SSJ4 Goku.

 

[Ripple Hole]

"That same interview was around 1-2 years old way before fukkatsu no F was even revealed.

These dumba*** came to that conclusion on their own

Here is the actual interview:

You must be registered for see links

Tell us why the hair color of Super Saiyan God is red!

Simply because it’s a strong-looking color. I had already used gold, and blue doesn’t look very strong. Visually-speaking, red really is easy to understand.

This interview it came out *way way* before resurrection F was even revealed at all.

It was an OLD BoG interview. Akira toriyama only said that the “colour blue” doesn’t look like a “strong colour” naturally when you speak of “strong colour” you think of the red colour.

He never said that super saiyan god super saiyan was weaker than super saiyan god.

And also that same interview was way before super saiyan god super saiyan was even created. "
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Good Tomato.

 

[MacNeato]

There is no way to know for sure, unless beerus fought omega shenron then we could gauge it. It's very tough trying to compare canon and filler

 

[Liquid Snake]

And yet Golden Frieza without God Ki managed to overpower SSG Goku in the start... So no... God Ki doesn't matter. So we don't know who is stronger.

Gold frieza did hav God ki

 

[Ansatsuken]

There is no way to know for sure, unless beerus fought omega shenron then we could gauge it. It's very tough trying to compare canon and filler

SS4 Goku and Omega Shenron fist clashes never shake the universe and destroying the planets from the shockwave. That tells you who stronger. Keep in mind GT was filler and Super was canon. If OS never shake the universe in filler series before the canon series was made, thats mean he is weaker in power compared to Beerus. His feats stop at there. We cant put/apply Beerus power to him or DB Super PL to him or DB super rules to him.

 

[MacNeato]

SS4 Goku and Omega Shenron fist clashes never shake the universe and destroying the planets from the shockwave. That tells you who stronger. Keep in mind GT was filler and Super was canon. If OS never shake the universe in filler series before the canon series was made, thats mean he is weaker in power compared to Beerus. His feats stop at there. We cant put/apply Beerus power to him or DB Super PL to him or DB super rules to him.

Umm I think I get what you're saying but there have been plenty of fist clashes that caused immediate and pretty drastic damage to battlefields and planets. I don't really consider that a feat in db but, meh, both omega shenron and beerus were thought to be the strongest opponents of there respective series' that's why I think its impossible to know because gt happened, but its not canon to the original story. I hate making claims without proof or facts that are already universally known by fans.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Technically, wasn't Goku only using a bit of God Ki? SSGSS is not SSG.

He was using God Ki (enough of it) and Golden Frieza was enough to overpower him in the beginning when both were fresh. Bold I know... But it's boring and confusing to write all that monstrocity. The transformation names in DB have gone out of control...

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Gold frieza did hav God ki

No Frieza didn't have God Ki! Her Golden form was an Ultimate evolution. Frieza said that he "evolved".

This is right too>>

And as for the God Ki argument: **** You. Golden Frieza was overpowering SSGSS Goku without God Ki. He only ended up loosing because he wasn't very experienced with his Golden form. This also applies to Rikudou Chakra, and whatever the Bleach/One Piece equivalents are. End of that particular debate..

 

[Saiyan Kammy]

Of course Frieza would have godly Ki or he wouldn't be able to rival Goku.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Of course Frieza would have godly Ki or he wouldn't be able to rival Goku.

No, as all the Z fighters could sense that Frieza was seriously powerful. If he had god ki, they wouldn't be able to sense him at all. I've allready answered the "Or he couldn't rival Goku" argument.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Both have the ability to destroy universes so we won't know which is stronger.

 

[Liquid Snake]

No Frieza didn't have God Ki! Her Golden form was an Ultimate evolution. Frieza said that he "evolved".

This is right too>>

Ppl with regular ki couldn't even feel a gods ki and that was Goku just regular saiyan God there's no way an evolution can can get u close to God's ki especially a super saiyan god. Piccolo and company only sensed friezas ki b4 he transformed after he transformed he had God ki

 

[Liquid Snake]

No, as all the Z fighters could sense that Frieza was seriously powerful. If he had god ki, they wouldn't be able to sense him at all. I've allready answered the "Or he couldn't rival Goku" argument.

They sensed frieza prior to the transformation not after

 

[Curteth]

Imagine SSG Goku fused with SSG Vegeta, SSG Gogeta GG! :Sparks:

Mind, blown.

Just saiyan.

 

[Son Wukong]

Goku SSG easily via feats.

 

[Son Wukong]

The "He has Godly Ki so he winz!" isn't a valid argument. This theory was contradicted by Golden Frieza, who manipulates regular Ki. But ATQ, Goku SSG has better feats by a big margin. Goku and Beerus were clashing, and its generated shockwaves travell across the universe all the way to the Kaioshin realm, vaporizing planets and obliterating Stars in its way. Its was explicitly stated by the Kaiohs that a few clashes like that would destroy the universe leaving it as an empty void. But ofcourse haters prefer to downplay this feat by mentioning the obvious plot induced stupidty that Earth wasn't destroyed, despite the fact that Goku was trying to cushion their attacks to prevent the most damage possible, which he even stated himself.

 

[Son Wukong]

And I forgot, some haters like to use the "Exaggeration/Hyperbole" card. Elder Kai has yet to make a Hyperbole, these peeps think they know more than the supreme overseer of the Universe. Its Northern Kai who exaggerates stuff, but it seems like he was right this time.

 

[Son Wukong]

"That same interview was around 1-2 years old way before fukkatsu no F was even revealed.

These dumba*** came to that conclusion on their own

Here is the actual interview:

You must be registered for see links

Tell us why the hair color of Super Saiyan God is red!

Simply because it’s a strong-looking color. I had already used gold, and blue doesn’t look very strong. Visually-speaking, red really is easy to understand.

This interview it came out *way way* before resurrection F was even revealed at all.

It was an OLD BoG interview. Akira toriyama only said that the “colour blue” doesn’t look like a “strong colour” naturally when you speak of “strong colour” you think of the red colour.

He never said that super saiyan god super saiyan was weaker than super saiyan god.

And also that same interview was way before super saiyan god super saiyan was even created. "
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Timothy laid the Smackdown.