Sasuke without his sharingan and Naruto without the kurama

[Natsu Shazneel]

At least Lord Sasuke was born with the sharingan.

Naruto was born with it to. He had no control of who ever gifted him this power.

 

[take it easy]

@above. Becoming Kurama jinc is natural thing for Uzumaki aswell as getting EMS for Uchiha.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

@above. Becoming Kurama jinc is natural thing for Uzumaki aswell as getting EMS for Uchiha.

This is another good point.

 

[super michael]

@above. Becoming Kurama jinc is natural thing for Uzumaki aswell as getting EMS for Uchiha.

Why is becoming Kurama Jinchuuriki natural for Uzumaki, just because they caught him? There one problem, Uzumak wasn't the 1st to have Kurama, here how it went.

1st Hagoromo all the Bijuu
2nd Madara with Kurama
3rd Hashirama steals Kurama and seal it into Mito being the 1st Jinchuuriki of Kurama
4th Kushina being the 2nd Jinchuuriki of Kurama
5th Obito steals Kurama
6th Naruto gains Kurama by being Jinchuuriki

If I am mistaken somewhere let me know, if I am forgetting something let me know.

There is no proof that Uzumaki are the one only that can become Kurama Jinchuuriki, the only proof is that Uzumkai chakra can suppress Kurama.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

But if Naruto never had Kurama, Pein would never go after him, this meaning that he would never bother to learn SM, Jiraiya wouldn't have tutored him in order for him to defend himself against Akatsuki, meaning Rasengan is out of the question, BUT he would have better chakra control since Kyubi won't be effing up his chakra control.

Ofc he'd learn SM as part of his natural progression like his father and in memory of Jiraiya. You think he'd let himself stay weak when he wants to get Sasuke back and become hokage? C'mon man. Stupid argument. Kurama is still belonging to The Leaf to keep the power balance between the nations via shitty mental, dying jins or w/e so Pain still invades. No Kurama also means Naruto gets ma and pa on his shoulders. Jiraiya was also his godfather and Naruto made him train him. His parents had been killed too so Jiraiya had to step in.

 

[super michael]

If we go by this thread if Sasuke doesn't have Sharingan and Naruto doesn't have Kurama, then Sasuke would lose more, here is why.

Sasuke is a Uchiha, the thing that makes them Uchiha is they get sharingan.
Naruto is a Uzumaki, the thing that makes him special is his strong body and vitality thanks to being a Uzumaki.

Naruto got two things his natural bloodline and Kurama
Sasuke got only one thing his bloodline which is the sharingan, although later it two things since EMS is considered a different power source from someone else body.

Here would be a good restriction:
1st Naruto without Kurama and Sasuke with Sharingan but no EMS
2nd Naruto without Kurama and strong body and vitality thanks to bloodline, while Sasuke no sharingan thanks to bloodline.

 

[minamoto]

i already posted smilar threads...but the jealousy toward minamoto decided to vanish it

 

[Cooh]

The big difference is that the Sharingan is in Sasukes DNA while the Kyubi is another being. Having the Kyubi is like constantly ganging up on people.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

The big difference is that the Sharingan is in Sasukes DNA while the Kyubi is another being. Having the Kyubi is like constantly ganging up on people.

Naruto's sweat glands let the Kyuuba chakara out.

 

[Cooh]

Naruto's sweat glands let the Kyuuba chakara out.

Sooo? What are you trying to tell me.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Sooo? What are you trying to tell me.

Its in his DNA.

 

[Cooh]

Its on his DNA.

The Kyubi is another being caged in Naruto, it's not in his dna

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

The Kyubi is another being caged in Naruto, it's not in his dna

Where is it caged?

 

[Cooh]

Where is it caged?

In Naruto :|

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

In Naruto :|

In his DNA I see.

 

[Cooh]

In his DNA I see.

Are you stupid? Or just trying to act retarded? Naruto wasn't born with the Kyubi it was sealed inside him that doesn't mean that the Kyubi is suddenly in his DNA

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Are you stupid? Or just trying to act retarded? Naruto wasn't born with the Kyubi it was sealed inside him that doesn't mean that the Kyubi is suddenly in his DNA

Naruto did not seal the Kyuubi himself. Which means its his power.

 

[super michael]

Naruto did not seal the Kyuubi himself. Which means its his power.

It doesn't matter who sealed who or what, no humans are born with Bijuu under normal conditions. No matter what bloodline anyone has there is no one born with a Bijuu.

 

[Cooh]

Naruto did not seal the Kyuubi himself. Which means its his power.

No it's the Kyubis power since the Kyubi is a seperate being. He constantly helps Naruto by molding chakra for him etc.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

It doesn't matter who sealed who or what, no humans are born with Bijuu under normal conditions. No matter what bloodline anyone has there is no one born with a Bijuu.

There is no one born with sharingan either. Yet some people like to claim its Sasuke's power.

No it's the Kyubis power since the Kyubi is a seperate being. He constantly helps Naruto by molding chakra for him etc.

Kyuubi is a seperate chakara source. Its not a entity that is made to live outside of its chamber.