Peace Maker
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wtf r u talking about? they didnt see luffy as threat? think before u type moron, te wg send fujitora to deal with them they even send a fake resignation of mingo like seriously those are big shet...
[Discussion] Luffy's bounty not justified!!!!!!! RANT!
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I'm not saying that I dont agree with u but there are points that I also dont agree here on this post.
First of all in EL his bounty raise was ok because he was in the center of attention and also even though the marines were the ones who sent EL in flames the WG put the blame upon the SHs that they destroyed EL, also the Crocodile incident was all covered up by WG, they told everyone around the world that Smoker was the one who put down the BW organisation, even though covered up they somehow added a +70m bounty to Luffy's original bounty while the Gecko Moria case was completely covered up by WG and no one knew that Moria was beaten by Luffy and in no way is WG adding bounty to something that was covered up, if the newspapers would report the true thing about what happened at Thriller Bark I bet the WG would also add more to the original 300m bounty of Luffy at that time, the 100m raise after ID and Marineford was completely ok because Luffy was not the only criminal in both cases and even Jimbe told that after 400m the bounty isnt going to get raised the same as before and in the last case that is the DR arc if the WG would manage to also cover up this I doubt Luffys bounty would even move from 400m, the bountys express the WG's concern about a certain person but WG is an corrupt organization so u shouldnt really take bounties that seriously.
The huge raise on bounty that Ace has can be justified due to him being the son of Roger as much as Dragon is an huge world renowned criminal there is no way anyone can be compared to Roger, the WG would go to any length to kill Ace and the only reason they stopped from killing/arresting Ace was due to WB's protection so lets just say that Ace was a special case.
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chopstickchakra
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How do you figure? Do you understand how bounties get set in this manga? Bounties aren't set by what we the readers know of the characters, it's what the characters know about the characters and Sanji hasn't been on Dressrosa since it started why would he get any involvement credit come bounty boost time? Meanwhile Usopp played a large hand in bringing down Doffy and freeing the people of Dressrosa and exposing the lies that have enveloped that country all those years. Usopp was given the highest bounty from Doffy that has to impact the WG's thought process when someone as threatening as Doffy says you're threatening so that alone got Usopp a big bump in bounty. So no right now with all the things that happened Usopp absolutley deserves one of the higher bounties.
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KingHashirama
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you do know, we don't have to like everything in the manga right?
.If the WG feels Usopp is a bigger threat than Sanji.. more power to them. They already aren't taking chopper serious.
chopstickchakra
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I didn't say you had to like it but to call it bullshit when it follows the manga logic is just silly. You can say it sucks that he has a lower bounty or you dislike it(which I guess looking back is how you were using bullshit and not using bullshit in the context of meaning it made no sense if that's the case my response may have been unwarranted) but calling it bs come on now.you do know, we don't have to like everything in the manga right?
If the WG feels Usopp is a bigger threat than Sanji.. more power to them. They already aren't taking chopper serious.
KingHashirama
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If I can't call it bullshit, why can i say it sucks when it follows the manga logic?
The logic of the manga for bounty is, the higher the threat the person is.. the bigger their bounty. Black Leg Sanji poses a more threat to the WG, which the WG should know already.. like the many other things they should know .. but are constantly shown to be ignorant about.
You claimed "ussop absolutely deserves one of higher bounties".. lol, uh huh he deserves a bigger bounty than the 3rd deadliest dude on the team.
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chopstickchakra
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You can say it sucks because that's an opinion, calling it bullshit implies it breaks established manga logic which in this case it doesn't that's why calling it bs is inaccurate.
How is Sanji a bigger threat to the WG? You can leave the noble argument at home until it's confirmed and the statement he made about them fearing him in the future still hasn't come true yet. Doflamingo's opinion would count for a lot to the WG being an ex Noble and a high powered Shichibukai so him offering such a high bounty on Usopp would influence their perception of him as a threat.
Deadly-ness doesn't impact bounty so that point is irrelevant. Usopp has done more to the WG than Sanji so far. Usopp shot down the flag at Ennies Lobby(You're the one who likes to focus on attacking the WG directly in relation to bounty right?) and he revealed the secrets of Dressrosa and Doffy, since Doffy was supported by the WG it makes them look bad like they didn't know what they're people were doing or they were ignoring it either way it makes the WG look bad in the public's eye, what has Sanji done that compares to that, that effected the WG?
KingHashirama
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Why is Sanji a bigger threat?? same reason hes specifically wanted alive.. and for the reason hes the 3rd strongest in the strawhats, something the WG should already know.
You can make all the excuses for Ussop to be higher in bounty than Sanji.. at the end of the day it will be bullshit.. or just plain out ignorance on the WG's part.
Ussop attacked because his captain told him to.. hes a long range attacker..
chopstickchakra
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putting a laughing emoticon doesn't belittle the action and Sanji being a noble albeit a good theory is still just that right now.Why is Sanji a bigger threat?? same reason hes specifically wanted alive.. and for the reason hes the 3rd strongest in the strawhats, something the WG should already know.
You can make all the excuses for Ussop to be higher in bounty than Sanji.. at the end of the day it will be bullshit.. or just plain out ignorance on the WG's part.
Ussop attacked because his captain told him to.. hes a long range attacker..
KingHashirama
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WhistleBlower
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Guys guys, be logical here. If Oda were to give Luffy a straight up 600million+ bounty right now, it'd be too OP. We've barely entered the Shinsekai!! There's plenty of time for it to increase.
Imo, before the end of series luffy's bounty will be 900 million beri, being the top guy of the era. Then the final war will happen, luffy will call upon ALL his allies. (take a moment for to recall ALL of them lol) U_U
Imo, before the end of series luffy's bounty will be 900 million beri, being the top guy of the era. Then the final war will happen, luffy will call upon ALL his allies. (take a moment for to recall ALL of them lol) U_U
chopstickchakra
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Impressive in one post you've shown you don't know how to argue or comprehend. "Sanji being a noble albeit a good theory " Calling a theory fan fic, great accomplishment.
Who really cares about bounty amounts??? They mean nothing to the story honestly. Just a number the government puts on you to say hey he a big shot thats it. Until there are actual bounty hunters capable of capturing them is doesn't matter.
KingHashirama
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:dead: So what was wrong with my calling the theory fan-fic... when i asked you where you were getting that crap from.. since for the last 2 freaking posts, you have been mentioning it like I claimed Sanji was a noble or some bs..
If I don't know how to argue or comprehend because of that... then you clearly don't know how to argue properly, without putting things into other people's arguments that they never claimed or even implied.
Well no not really, i think he could've just gave him a bounty higher than Ace's, and then just left the bounty alone for a while. Makes luffy feel like a bigger threat imo, going into the new world.
chopstickchakra
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Do I have to hold your hand while you figure this out? You calling a theory fan-fic is redundant, it accomplishes nothing. In your childish attempt to belittle the counter points you desperately reached for any detail to marginalize and it came back and made you look foolish.
Firstly I only mentioned it once, and I mentioned it after you kept saying "The marines should know why Sanji is a bigger threat but they ignore it" that made it sound like you were referring to the Sanji being a Noble hype everyone got on after the last chapter. "Why is Sanji a bigger threat?? same reason hes specifically wanted alive.. and for the reason hes the 3rd strongest in the strawhats, something the WG should already know. " What is it exactly the WG should already know about Sanji if you weren't planning on bringing out the Sanji being a Noble theory hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
KingHashirama
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Ok did you want me to say "where did you get that theory from?" instead?
First, because clearly me stating hes a bigger threat = hes from a noble family right, despite me never saying it:
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When did I say agreed with the theory? Say what?
2 times you mentioned it, without me even implying it or referring to it. And both times you made it sound like I was actually claiming that.
Your question of "what is it exactly the WG should know"... uhh the answer was in the quote that you quoted..
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WhistleBlower
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500 million beri is big deal compared to others who just have entered the Shinsekai . Luffys taken the lead over the other supernova's. Plus, the fact luffy has done soo much shit i.e defeat warlords, invaded 3 WG islands is enough to make him appear as a threat. Like seriously, pre sure everyone in the new world has at least heard about him and knows his strength.
Of course you'll get the casual fkers who think they are king shit but they aint nothing in reality. Like those guys "allying and coming for luffys head" recently Lol, just lol. They dared to attack luffy when he was with all his allies. Thats a death wish, plus if it werent for fujitoras help i reckon only orlumbuss crew wouldve been enough to quash them.
PS- why dont i get notifications for being quoted anymore @caliburn
Relostar Devil
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Ace's bounty was never shown in the manga, it was fan-fic by the fans that he has 550 mil beri. Ace was the commander of WB pirates and has logia fruit and maybe also fought several shichibukais on his journey, got offer from WG to become one, son of PK, Masters in haki. This whole thing was enough to make his bounty high but luffy just entered a place where ace was living from ages so not getting his bounty higher now is better for the manga only(assuming ace's bounty is 550)