Naruto Sage mode and Jiraiya Sage Mode

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

which have more powerful sage mode? Naruto said to complete the Sage Mode jiraya never complete but Naruto dont have PaMa in his shoulder while Jiraiya has it. Jiraiya sage Mode said to powerful enough to defeat pein if he know the secret. Dont you think Jiraya Sage mode maybe equally powerful as Naruto Rikudo Sage Mode? jiraya have sage power from 2 toads in his left and right and that toad is legendary status even Hagoromo recognize toad sage to be superior.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Its only because of the toads that jirayas sage mode is good at all. He cant even use it without. Naruto has more powerful attacks in sage mode and can use it without the toads. So naruto is better.

Only reason naruto couldnt use e toads before is because the kurama wouldnt allow it. Jiraya isnt even a true sage.

 

[Laraib]

Naruto takes it easily.

 

[nightrepyre]

lol no, no sage mode can beat RSM

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

lol no, no sage mode can beat RSM

This ^

OP: Your question is like if someone would ask that which roast tastes good, baked one or unbaked ? The answer definitely would be cooked one.

SM naruto >>>>>> SM jiraiya. Let alone RSM.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

This ^

OP: Your question is like if someone would ask that which roast tastes good, baked one or unbaked ? The answer definitely would be cooked one.

SM naruto >>>>>> SM jiraiya. Let alone RSM.

PaMa jutsu is with Jiraiya, Naruto and RSM jutsu look not any hax it can be...

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

If somebody could please get that Hyuga Uzumaki meme, that'd be great. The one with Chris Brown I think it was.

Naruto perfected SM. That automatically makes Naruto better. Half way down the OP. I give up. This thread has the downs.

 

[Sage konohamaru]

naruto easily coz naruto can now infinately zap in natural energy thanks to kurama. And that is what ma and pa help jiraiya with.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

If somebody could please get that Hyuga Uzumaki meme, that'd be great. The one with Chris Brown I think it was.

Naruto perfected SM. That automatically makes Naruto better. Half way down the OP. I give up. This thread has the downs.

lol seriously PaMa is with Jiraiya body and PaMa isnt ordinary toad because they is legendary toad that believe Rinnegan user can be defeated by them even they loose at the end because lack of strategy and knowledge about the opponent. When PaMa hear about a man with rinnegan will fight them did they cry, trouma for afraid? No they have confidence because they have power in hand. Hagoromo also ask tips and get revelation about child of prophecy from PaMa senior the Great Toad it clearly show Hagoromo respect toads kingdom power or maybe learn SM from them. Like i said Naruto Sage Mode or next RSM vs Jiraya SM PaMa version.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

lol seriously PaMa is with Jiraiya body and PaMa isnt ordinary toad because they is legendary toad that believe Rinnegan user can be defeated by them even they loose at the end because lack of strategy and knowledge about the opponent. When PaMa hear about a man with rinnegan will fight them did they cry, trouma for afraid? No they have confidence because they have power in hand. Hagoromo also ask tips and get revelation about child of prophecy from PaMa senior the Great Toad it clearly show Hagoromo respect toads kingdom power or maybe learn SM from them. Like i said Naruto Sage Mode or next RSM vs Jiraya SM PaMa version.

You gave me cancer. Naruto had Pa vs Pain. If imperfect SM can have MaPa. Then Perfect can too. The rest...I just can't...The elder toad is the one with the prophecies. How are Ma and Pa legendary? They assumed Naruto was also the child of prophecy to fight the one with powerful eyes. So yeah...you're full of shit.

Imperfect SM > RSM

I can't even...you're paying for my chemotherapy btw.

 

[Xlad]

Naruto's SM is obviously much better than Jiraiya's own. Your reasoning doesn't work like that.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

You gave me cancer. Naruto had Pa vs Pain. If imperfect SM can have MaPa. Then Perfect can too. The rest...I just can't...The elder toad is the one with the prophecies. How are Ma and Pa legendary? They assumed Naruto was also the child of prophecy to fight the one with powerful eyes. So yeah...you're full of shit.

Imperfect SM > RSM

I can't even...you're paying for my chemotherapy btw.

please look at the situation.. PaMa is with Naruto and 3 other big toad and full intel about how to defeat Pain from Katsuyu they also have full difficulties to fight 6 of them. Jiraiya PaMa SM is in different level. the question is, can only SM naruto defeat Nagato? NO Naruto need toads team to fight Nagato. Jiraiya SM PaMa version if compare to Naruto SM have weakness because the senjutsu only last 5 minit, jiraiya PaMa version have advantages because they can can overcome senjutsu time duration and can max professional SM user power into 3. Naruto is only one person to do SM. The toad couple can do much better SM jutsu variation compare to Naruto if in SM criteria.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

please look at the situation.. PaMa is with Naruto and 3 other big toad and full intel about how to defeat Pain from Katsuyu they also have full difficulties to fight 6 of them. Jiraiya PaMa SM is in different level. the question is, can only SM naruto defeat Nagato? NO Naruto need toads team to fight Nagato. Jiraiya SM PaMa version if compare to Naruto SM have weakness because the senjutsu only last 5 minit, jiraiya PaMa version have advantages because they can can overcome senjutsu time duration and can max professional SM user power into 3. Naruto is only one person to do SM. The toad couple can do much better SM jutsu variation compare to Naruto if in SM criteria.

You do realise Naruto was a kid and Jiraiya has like 30 years of ninja experience and jutsu over him, right? He was also Nagato's teacher...

Naruto could also have PaMa on his shoulders but not fused. Which means he atill has access to frog song etc. Naruto could make 3 clones for SM batteries WHEN he first mastered it. Now. With Kurama, he has infinite, pretty much.

 

[UnknownJin]

Naruto have perfect Sage mode wtf are u saying

 

[KesOnFire]

Lord Naruto durrr didn't even read this bs thread lol stopped at ma and pa on his shoulders

 

[Yokaze Sama]

Dafuq...:|

 

[The Demon Hawk]

which have more powerful sage mode? Naruto said to complete the Sage Mode jiraya never complete but Naruto dont have PaMa in his shoulder while Jiraiya has it. Jiraiya sage Mode said to powerful enough to defeat pein if he know the secret. Dont you think Jiraya Sage mode maybe equally powerful as Naruto Rikudo Sage Mode? jiraya have sage power from 2 toads in his left and right and that toad is legendary status even Hagoromo recognize toad sage to be superior.

Naruto has a better and more powerful Sage Mode. On top of having a stronger Sage Mode, Naruto's SM is independent to a certain extent whereas the only thing that makes Jiraiya's SM worthwhile is the aid from toad summons. And Ma & Pa are not a part of Sage Mode, so don't include them in credit of SM.

Jiraiya's SM being powerful enough to defeat Pain was only a hyperbole. Plus, Pain didn't say that Jiraiya's Sage Mode was stronger than his Rinnegan. He only said that SM Jiraiya could've defeated him under the same circumstances if he had complete intel on them. That doesn't mean Jiraiya's SM can rival Pain's Rinnegan. Jiraiya couldn't defeat Pain even if he had all the intel only if the condition was different. If Pain straight up uses CT on Jiraiya, Jiraiya is minced meat.

No no. Jiraiya's Sage Mode is inferior to Naruto's Sage Mode (War Arc), let alone Rikodou Sage Mode. Rikodou Sage Mode is in a completely different league.

 

[Honord Sage]

Pa already said Naruto surpass both Jiraiya and Minato as a Sage. Naruto is a perfect Sage Jiraiya is not. Naruto can go extended periods as a Sage,Minato only a minute or so. Naruto found a solution to not having Ma and Pa on His shoulders the Sage Shadow Clones.