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Why would they bother when superman will ALWAYS beat goku.
Screw attack claimed superman was invincible, they're fanboys simple as that.

Personally I think putting those two against each other in a fight is pointless due to several inconsistencies in their respective worlds.
 

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He's right though. Superman has no limits. No matter how strong is opponent is, he automatically just gets as strong as he needs to be to beat them
That's a straight No limits fallacy. Saying "lel Superman has no limits so he winz!" isn't an argument. His defeat against Doomsday contradicts this. And by the way, Screwattack meant POTENTIAL, not POWER.
 

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That's a straight No limits fallacy. Saying "lel Superman has no limits so he winz!" isn't an argument. His defeat against Doomsday contradicts this. And by the way, Screwattack meant POTENTIAL, not POWER.
For one, I'm pretty sure that was before Superman's mental limiters were removed. Secondly, Superman was able to defeat Doomsday, so yes, he was able to achieve whatever strength he needed to overcome Doomsday. Thirdly, that's just a random point in Superman's story where he wasn't as strong as he is now. That's like me saying your threads about Goku's feats is contradicted by the fact that he was one-shotted by Raditz.
 

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For one, I'm pretty sure that was before Superman's mental limiters were removed. Secondly, Superman was able to defeat Doomsday, so yes, he was able to achieve whatever strength he needed to overcome Doomsday. Thirdly, that's just a random point in Superman's story where he wasn't as strong as he is now. That's like me saying your threads about Goku's feats is contradicted by the fact that he was one-shotted by Raditz.
By that logic Superman can beat Omnipotent characters lmfao, this logic is so damn shitty. If a character outclasses Superman by every category which is required to win a battle (Destructive capacity, speed, durability, technqiue) he/she can beat Superman with ease.
 

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By that logic Superman can beat Omnipotent characters lmfao, this logic is so damn shitty. If a character outclasses Superman by every category which is required to win a battle (Destructive capacity, speed, durability, technqiue) he/she can beat Superman with ease.
Next thing you know screw attack will say superman can defeat the living tribunal
 

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By that logic Superman can beat Omnipotent characters lmfao, this logic is so damn shitty. If a character outclasses Superman by every category which is required to win a battle (Destructive capacity, speed, durability, technqiue) he/she can beat Superman with ease.
He probably could.

I'm not saying it makes sense, and it doesn't matter if we like it or not, that's how Superman's writers made him. Superman isn't made for VS battles because the writers made him so that he can just increase his output to surpass whoever is fighting him. Obviously things like erasing Superman from existence, or changing reality so he doesn't have his powers, etc. would land an L for Superman, but this conversation is about Goku vs Superman. Goku can't do those things and probably never will be able too. You can't really say Goku will ever exceed Superman in fighting categories because Goku is about having limits, while Superman has no limits. Goku stops eventually and continues, Superman never stops. Whatever Goku dishes out, Superman more than likely can do better because of what the writers have shown him doing. Simple as that.
 

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He probably could.

I'm not saying it makes sense, and it doesn't matter if we like it or not, that's how Superman's writers made him. Superman isn't made for VS battles because the writers made him so that he can just increase his output to surpass whoever is fighting him. Obviously things like erasing Superman from existence, or changing reality so he doesn't have his powers, etc. would land an L for Superman, but this conversation is about Goku vs Superman. Goku can't do those things and probably never will be able too. You can't really say Goku will ever exceed Superman in fighting categories because Goku is about having limits, while Superman has no limits. Goku stops eventually and continues, Superman never stops. Whatever Goku dishes out, Superman more than likely can do better because of what the writers have shown him doing. Simple as that.
Stop right there. You're making yourself look clearly unintelligent atm. I think you're probably unaware of the term omnipotence. It means having unlimited power, speed and knowledge. They're abstract level hyper dimensional beings and are the authors of their own fictional environment. They can easy create and destroy anything. They're above skyfather and celestial level beings. Screwattack meant potential not power, they're is a clear difference between the two terms. A death battle is clearly judged by feats and scaling NOT No limit fallacies.
 
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Stop right there. You're making yourself look clearly unintelligent atm. I think you're probably unaware of the term omnipotence. It means having unlimited power, speed and knowledge. They're abstract levelbeings and are the authors of their own fictional environment. They can easy create and destroy anything. They're above skyfather and celestial level beings. Screwattack meant potential not power, they're is a clear diferrence between the two terms. A death battle is clearly judged by feats and scaling NOT No limit fallacies.
Like I said, he PROBABLY could. If it was in Superman's universe, the writer's could probably find some way that Superman could defeat the omnipotent character. In a VS battle match-up, Superman loses more times that not. Apparently you missed this part of my post.

Obviously things like erasing Superman from existence, or changing reality so he doesn't have his powers, etc. would land an L for Superman
Last I checked, you needed omnipotence or reality warping for this.
 

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Like I said, he PROBABLY could. If it was in Superman's universe, the writer's could probably find some way that Superman could defeat the omnipotent character. In a VS battle match-up, Superman loses more times that not. Apparently you missed this part of my post.


Last I checked, you needed omnipotence or reality warping for this.
Lmfao, what in the actual ****?? We'rent gonna use Speculations in battle. Superman at his peak is Universal at best nothing above that. So one can beat an omnipotent character lmfao, stalemate is possible at best.

There are many fictional characters that can whoop his ass, he's high end mid tier in fiction at best.
 
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