Official Team Building VS Thread

[Kagustuchi]

Well lets see...

-Taiseki is useless since everyone on Team 1 can, and 2 people on Team 2 can perceive him. His combat skills are worthless here as he got defeated by Obito.

-Onoki's only useful ability in a battle against Team 1 would be Jinton, and his Added Weight and Light Weight Boulder Jutsu.

1. Jinton never gets prepped against Gai or Minato due to their speed, and Gai has range. Not to mention Muki Tensei can be used anywhere. It never gets prepped against Edo Madara's team either, and even if it does, Madara absorbs it.

2. Added Weight and Boulder require Onoki to touch the opponent. Won't touch two speedsters and Kabuto nor will he touch Madara, Itachi or Obito.

As for Itachi, he can't trump Madara's Susanoo, Gedo Mazo, or a Susanoo the same as his. (Edo Itachi) He's more useful against Gai's team, but considering Kabuto can shut down Susanoo that doesn't even matter.

Match ends with their terrible deaths.

If it's against your Technically non Kage Team then I would have Edo Minato solo'ing

 

[KidGamer65]

If it's against your Technically non Kage Team then I would have Edo Minato solo'ing

Yeah, he probably would. Interested in what Varrah's reasoning is though.

 

[Zexion~]

Are the supports never injured?

Hidan+Katsuyu+Kisame > Your favs.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Are the supports never injured?

Hidan+Katsuyu+Kisame > Your favs.

It's a 3 on 3 match. The only diffrence Is that the point character is in front of the other two when the match starts

 

[Zexion~]

It's a 3 on 3 match. The only diffrence Is that the point character is in front of the other two when the match starts

:lol Oh gay,

Katsuyu tanking attacks that could obliterate Hidan, with Kisame healing any ****ed up limbs and shit like that = Gods.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't see it taking down my team for a lot of the strategies I used against Numbers. His PS gets overpowered by a teleporting BM Avatar that could allow Minato an opening to mark it. Either warping it away or unavoidable attacks.

Chakra won't be an issue for Minato either since Naruto's there, and he can use Clones to make PS warp set ups sage

Fukusaku and Shima can charge frog song in the avatar safetly too

Wouldn't Minato have to touch PS to warp it? Either way, a hit of Madara's blade would send Naruto's Avatar flying back several dozen meters anyway, so a warp isn't going to happen. Unavoidable attacks doesn't really mean much since I didn't expect Madara to evade any of Naruto's attacks from the start.

True. Though Obito can kill clones with Gedo Mazo's AoE attacks.

Possible, but:

-Once the Genjutsu is about to activate, Obito can sink into the ground, and then break Madara and Itachi free after they've been afflicted.

-Obito can enter the Avatar itself via Kamui and take out the Elder Toads.

-Obito's Outer Path bindings can bind the Avatar like it did to Killer B, allowing Madara to finish him.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I guess I'll just have to watch the fight. If Naruto in BM bodies him then he's fine for the team

Remember to read the additional game dialogue such as the fact that Mecha-Naruto is 'terrorirising the Ninja World' when you return to Konoha before the final boss run. That's...every nation undefeated. Then there's VS Neji, Kakashi etc in base mode.

Remember ofc Mecha Naruto is defeated through gameplay so that IS conflicting.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Wouldn't Minato have to touch PS to warp it? Either way, a hit of Madara's blade would send Naruto's Avatar flying back several dozen meters anyway, so a warp isn't going to happen.

Hiding inside of Naruto's avatar he can keech of of Naruto's chakra and use Kage Bunshin to try and Shunshin over to PS inbetween clashes.

With Minato inside the avatar, all shockwaves will be comolerely avoided and leave him open to counter attack. Minato's already shown he can mark a battlefield quickly and his Bunshin make it easier.

Unavoidable attacks doesn't really mean much since I didn't expect Madara to evade any of Naruto's attacks from the start.

Then his PS gets busted

True. Though Obito can kill clones with Gedo Mazo's AoE attacks.

The same Mazo that 6th Gate Gai, Kakashi, KCM Naruto, and the Hachibi were bodying with basically just Taijutsu and Raikiri.

Mandarin 2 + Multiple Toad boss summons can fend it off long enough for the fight.

Possible, but:

-Once the Genjutsu is about to activate, Obito can sink into the ground, and then break Madara and Itachi free after they've been afflicted.

If they're hiding in PS then it's going to long fall. With Naruto and Minatos speed, they can easily close the distance and one kills either Itachi or Madara while the other fends off Obito.

This scenario can be replicated with Kabuto's sound Genjutsu, but it can be broken via Madara and Itachi Genjutsu ing eachother. Though it's still an opening that can be exploited.

-Obito can enter the Avatar itself via Kamui and take out the Elder Toads.

Not with two sensors inside the avatar. All of which can handle Obito in CQC (Minato has a KCC cloak) as well as possible Bunshin that can also sense

-Obito's Outer Path bindings can bind the Avatar like it did to Killer B, allowing Madara to finish him.

He never managed to pull that off against Naruto in their entire fight. The Kurama Avatar is on a much higher level of strength than the Hachibi, it matches mountain cutting strength

 

[Red Slayer]

Point-Edo Madara

Support-Edo Itachi,alive Minato and Edo Nagato
))

 

[KidGamer65]

Hiding inside of Naruto's avatar he can keech of of Naruto's chakra and use Kage Bunshin to try and Shunshin over to PS inbetween clashes.

With Minato inside the avatar, all shockwaves will be comolerely avoided and leave him open to counter attack. Minato's already shown he can mark a battlefield quickly and his Bunshin make it easier.

Then that's a good way for his clones to get obliterated by either:

-PS shockwave.
-Gedo Mazo's AoE Lightning Blast.

As for him evading the shockwaves, nah. If Madara spins his blade (or both) in a 360 degree fashion like he did against Hashirama, he covers the entire area and every direction in a single go. Minato has nowhere to teleport Naruto to.

Then his PS gets busted

Before Naruto dies a terrible death? Nope. No Bijuu Dama bar Flash BD is worth using against PS, and even then it'd take multiple hits of that if he wants to destroy PS.

The same Mazo that 6th Gate Gai, Kakashi, KCM Naruto, and the Hachibi were bodying with basically just Taijutsu and Raikiri.

6G Gai, Kakashi, KCM Naruto and Hachibi>>>>Base Minato's clones, unless this is Naruto we are talking about. Even then, Lightning Blast would obliterate them. Another thing the Mazo didn't use against them. Not to mention they didn't even hurt it. Unless Naruto or Minato's clones have physical power above that of Killer B that is, and I'm 100% sure that they don't.

Mandarin 2 + Multiple Toad boss summons can fend it off long enough for the fight.

Madara's attacks span across the entire battlefield. A single swing of his blade would kill each and every summon. Then there's the fact that Edo Itachi is completely free. He'd end the summons with zero difficulty. Amaterasu for the Toads and Totsuka for Manda II. He can keep a clone inside Madara's Susanoo just in case.

If they're hiding in PS then it's going to long fall. With Naruto and Minatos speed, they can easily close the distance and one kills either Itachi or Madara while the other fends off Obito.

The long fall only makes it easier for them to survive since Naruto/Minato won't be able to travel from their position to Madara's Susanoo's previous position, and then kill them after they fall close enough to the ground to actually do anything before they glance at each other (breaking the Genjutsu) and then reactivate Susanoo.

This scenario can be replicated with Kabuto's sound Genjutsu, but it can be broken via Madara and Itachi Genjutsu ing eachother. Though it's still an opening that can be exploited.

Not a large enough opening for them to kill Madara and Itachi before they break each other out and then reactivate Susanoo.

Not with two sensors inside the avatar. All of which can handle Obito in CQC (Minato has a KCC cloak) as well as possible Bunshin that can also sense

Obito only becomes tangible when he's about to warp himself or someone. They'll sense his presence, but they won't be able to hurt him while he takes out one of the toads. Their only chance would be to force his whole body or the attacking parts to be removed from the dimension by hitting them, but regular punches, kicks and weapons can't do that.

He never managed to pull that off against Naruto in their entire fight. The Kurama Avatar is on a much higher level of strength than the Hachibi, it matches mountain cutting strength

Which is irrelevant because when Obito was fighting head to head with them, Naruto wasn't using his Avatar. What's even worse is that Naruto asked B to cover him so he could form Bijuu Dama without getting caught by Obito's stakes (Meaning Naruto can be bound, and most likely will be bound if he fights head to head using his Avatar). It being stronger than Hachibi is irrelevant when the chains bind Bijuu Power. Physical strength has nothing to do with why Hachibi was bound.

So Obito most likely ends up binding Naruto with Outer Paths stakes.

 

[Varrah]

Well lets see...

-Taiseki is useless since everyone on Team 1 can, and 2 people on Team 2 can perceive him. His combat skills are worthless here as he got defeated by Obito.

-Onoki's only useful ability in a battle against Team 1 would be Jinton, and his Added Weight and Light Weight Boulder Jutsu.

1. Jinton never gets prepped against Gai or Minato due to their speed, and Gai has range. Not to mention Muki Tensei can be used anywhere. It never gets prepped against Edo Madara's team either, and even if it does, Madara absorbs it.

2. Added Weight and Boulder require Onoki to touch the opponent. Won't touch two speedsters and Kabuto nor will he touch Madara, Itachi or Obito.

As for Itachi, he can't trump Madara's Susanoo, Gedo Mazo, or a Susanoo the same as his. (Edo Itachi) He's more useful against Gai's team, but considering Kabuto can shut down Susanoo that doesn't even matter.

Match ends with their terrible deaths.

Here's a counterargument:

Ōnoki will use both Doton Keijūgan and the Flight Technique on the entire team to lighten himself, Itachi, and Taiseki…enabling increased movement and flight; Itachi, in particular, and in conjunction with the insight of Sharingan, is now capable of responding to any response from the opposition with immense efficiency. Taiseki, during Ōnoki’s bountifulness, will use the Chameleon Jutsu—to which Itachi will copy. Ōnoki will have created a unit of Iwa Bunshins; Itachi will have summon’d’ a flock of crows to serve as a warning system and a diversionary tactic, create Itachi two Karasu Bunshins [called A and B] and one Kage Bunshin [called C] as well. Every extension of Itachi will immediately cast the Chameleon Jutsu upon the Iwa Bunshins prefixing them with Doton Keijūgan and the Flight Technique, which is to happen immediately after Ōnoki creates them. Itachi will swiftly move through the air into a shunshin blitz with Taiseki following. Ōnoki will fly aside Itachi.

(The entry is to invoke a certain response from the enemy, if that certain response happens, another act will happen that will in a sense paralyze the enemy team.)


Karasu Bunshin A, which is lightened, will fly out to one flank and charge. As Karasu Bunshin A approaches it will preemptively disperse into a flock of crows will spread out and go in to distract; and if the crows are able, the crows will catch enemies in a genjutsu. Karasu Bunshin B will fly out to the flank and charge. Taiseki will fly up. Ōnoki’s unit of Iwa Bunshins will fly out, disperse and charge from as many flanking directions as they can. Ōnoki will toss a lightened golem. Itachi, who is lightened and invisible will fly right behind the golem, taking positional advantage against the enemy team; Ōnoki will follow from a safe distance.

(The unit will follow if the enemy team choosing the option to flee emphasizing the point to stay behind the dispersed crows and clones: their goal is to constantly pressure the enemy with so many dispersed, lightened, flying enemies that they can't choose merely one to fight. The clone should be evasive enough to avoid an early demise as their properties moves are lightened, and depending on the environment should encapsulate enough objects too allow the crows to distract the enemy team and swiftly disengage and repeat. Itachi, behind the golem, will use certain attacks, such as kunai beheading, to slew the enemy team.)

Spoiler

After the battle, we are given a flashback of the events that happen through Itachi's crow.


















Having copied Taseki's Chameleon Jutsu, and prefixed by Ōnoki's Doton Keijūgan and Flight Technique, Itachi turned himself to an invisible, swift-moving, lightened crow, and left the moment the bout started.

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[KidGamer65]

Here's a counterargument:

Ōnoki will use both Doton Keijūgan and the Flight Technique on the entire team to lighten himself, Itachi, and Taiseki…enabling increased movement and flight; Itachi, in particular, and in conjunction with the insight of Sharingan, is now capable of responding to any response from the opposition with immense efficiency. Taiseki, during Ōnoki’s bountifulness, will use the Chameleon Jutsu—to which Itachi will copy. Ōnoki will have created a unit of Iwa Bunshins; Itachi will have summon’d’ a flock of crows to serve as a warning system and a diversionary tactic, create Itachi two Karasu Bunshins [called A and B] and one Kage Bunshin [called C] as well. Every extension of Itachi will immediately cast the Chameleon Jutsu upon the Iwa Bunshins prefixing them with Doton Keijūgan and the Flight Technique, which is to happen immediately after Ōnoki creates them. Itachi will swiftly move through the air into a shunshin blitz with Taiseki following. Ōnoki will fly aside Itachi.

(The entry is to invoke a certain response from the enemy, if that certain response happens, another act will happen that will in a sense paralyze the enemy team.)


Karasu Bunshin A, which is lightened, will fly out to one flank and charge. As Karasu Bunshin A approaches it will preemptively disperse into a flock of crows will spread out and go in to distract; and if the crows are able, the crows will catch enemies in a genjutsu. Karasu Bunshin B will fly out to the flank and charge. Taiseki will fly up. Ōnoki’s unit of Iwa Bunshins will fly out, disperse and charge from as many flanking directions as they can. Ōnoki will toss a lightened golem. Itachi, who is lightened and invisible will fly right behind the golem, taking positional advantage against the enemy team; Ōnoki will follow from a safe distance.

(The unit will follow if the enemy team choosing the option to flee emphasizing the point to stay behind the dispersed crows and clones: their goal is to constantly pressure the enemy with so many dispersed, lightened, flying enemies that they can't choose merely one to fight. The clone should be evasive enough to avoid an early demise as their properties moves are lightened, and depending on the environment should encapsulate enough objects too allow the crows to distract the enemy team and swiftly disengage and repeat. Itachi, behind the golem, will use certain attacks, such as kunai beheading, to slew the enemy team.)

Spoiler

After the battle, we are given a flashback of the events that happen through Itachi's crow.


















Having copied Taseki's Chameleon Jutsu, and prefixed by Ōnoki's Doton Keijūgan and Flight Technique, Itachi turned himself to an invisible, swift-moving, lightened crow, and left the moment the bout started.

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1. Dojutsu can see him, so the invisibility is useless against a team full of Dojutsu users. Not to mention his chakra can be sensed, useless against a team w/ two sensors. One of which has chakra sensing and negative emotions sensing.

2. Lightened Itachi would be a force to be reckoned with speed wise, but considering Obito has Kamui, Edo Itachi has Susanoo, and Madara has his Susanoo, his speed doesn't matter. Nor is he fast enough to blitz before Susanoo is put up, especially since there is the whole preparation period where Onoki and Itachi set themselves up.

Itachi can't harm anyone on this team, and once V4 or PS come out, he won't be evading sword slashes from a man w/ EMS precognition and a blade faster than what was already able to tag Juubito when coupled with EMS precog. (Sasuke) Onoki's Rock clones serve no real offensive purpose as Jinton is his only offensive move that will work, and he'll never get that off as no one can cover for him nor can he set it up faster than anyone on this team can strike him.

It's a little trickier when it comes to Gai, KCM Minato, and Kabuto though.

-Lightened Itachi shouldn't be able to blitz 7G Gai given his performance against Madara. So Gai can fend off any blitz attempts. The same can be said for KCM Minato.

-Onoki's clones and golems aren't an issue when Kabuto can manipulate the landscape to kill them via Muki Tensei, and when he can just summon Manda II to crush them all. Jinton is dodged or easily prevented, and Itachi won't be able to protect Onoki since he'll have his hands full fighting Gai.

-If Kabuto uses his flashbang, White Rage, while Gai/Minato is holding off Itachi, then everyone but Kabuto becomes immobilized, allowing Kabuto to end Itachi, thus ending all chance of victory for the opposing team.

 

[Varrah]

Spoiler

1. Dojutsu can see him, so the invisibility is useless against a team full of Dojutsu users. Not to mention his chakra can be sensed, useless against a team w/ two sensors. One of which has chakra sensing and negative emotions sensing.

2. Lightened Itachi would be a force to be reckoned with speed wise, but considering Obito has Kamui, Edo Itachi has Susanoo, and Madara has his Susanoo, his speed doesn't matter. Nor is he fast enough to blitz before Susanoo is put up, especially since there is the whole preparation period where Onoki and Itachi set themselves up.

Itachi can't harm anyone on this team, and once V4 or PS come out, he won't be evading sword slashes from a man w/ EMS precognition and a blade faster than what was already able to tag Juubito when coupled with EMS precog. (Sasuke) Onoki's Rock clones serve no real offensive purpose as Jinton is his only offensive move that will work, and he'll never get that off as no one can cover for him nor can he set it up faster than anyone on this team can strike him.

It's a little trickier when it comes to Gai, KCM Minato, and Kabuto though.

-Lightened Itachi shouldn't be able to blitz 7G Gai given his performance against Madara. So Gai can fend off any blitz attempts. The same can be said for KCM Minato.

-Onoki's clones and golems aren't an issue when Kabuto can manipulate the landscape to kill them via Muki Tensei, and when he can just summon Manda II to crush them all. Jinton is dodged or easily prevented, and Itachi won't be able to protect Onoki since he'll have his hands full fighting Gai.

-If Kabuto uses his flashbang, White Rage, while Gai/Minato is holding off Itachi, then everyone but Kabuto becomes immobilized, allowing Kabuto to end Itachi, thus ending all chance of victory for the opposing team.

I appreciate the thoughts KG; I am aware of the limitations of my proposed team. The only thing that matters is Itachi surviving. ​

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[KidGamer65]

Having copied Taseki's Chameleon Jutsu, and prefixed by Ōnoki's Doton Keijūgan and Flight Technique, Itachi turned himself to an invisible, swift-moving, lightened crow, and left the moment the bout started.

LMFAOO! How in the world did I miss this? :lol I knew something was up.

 

[Varrah]

LMFAOO! How in the world did I miss this? :lol I knew something was up.

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