War arc Kakashi vs Kakuzu

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It is that time of the month again.....*sigh*

Why would Kakuzu using tendrils to bind Kakashi make him vulnerable? Because:
1. Kakuzu has to be extremely close to Kakashi

2. Kakashi shits on Kakuzu within this distance with lightning wolf. It could close the distance between Kakashi and Pain in an instant

Kakuzu is toast in that distance
Wind mask is dodged, or tanked with low to zero damage, like in canon.
1. He can extend his tendrils as far as he chooses. The distance between him and Choji was huge . That's not what one would consider 'extremely close'.

2. Can Kakashi even use lightning wolf in a straight line if his arm is pointing down? The DB says he controls it with his arm movements, meaning it goes however he swings his arm around. If his arm is facing the floor then it won't be moving towards Kakuzu. And anyways, 'it covered the distance in an instant' means jack when it didn't surprise or blitz anyone. It was one panel to the next, and you can't quantify the time frame of a few panels. It has no speed feats at all, so don't act like it's some unavoidable attack smh. And what @bold? If Kakuzu has the wind mask on him like he did the time he caught Kakashi then the Lightning Beast gets negged with the Futon Blast and Kakashi ends up dying from the Katon+Futon, which would've happened had Yamato+Naruto not saved him with FRS+Suiton.

Tendrils couldn't do shit here

But sure Tendrils can kill Kakashi. Any version of Kakuzu's tendrils except his butterfly mode is dodged at a mid to far range. Kakuzu's butterfly mode tendrils are cut through with raiden.
This guy.. Kakashi would've died if Shikamaru didn't save them. Tendrils 'didn't do shit' because Kakashi had help from Shikamaru. Had Shikamaru failed, Kakashi would've been dead. And in that scan he had the intent to steal Kakashi's heart, that does not mean that Kakuzu will do that here given he hasn't lost any hearts vs Kakashi. So he goes for the kill via puncturing his brain. @bold, Kakashi got blitzed from ~2 meters and admitted his speed wasn't on the level of dodging something like that. The entire argument was Kakuzu being able to blitz Kakashi with Tendrils while Kakashi is dodging the large scale AOE attacks, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here since you seem to be agreeing. And rofl, how many Raiden's can Kakashi do before he's out of chakra, because that's a Kage Bunshin and 2 Raikiri's. Kakashi isn't sustaining that. Not to mention, something like this can't be countered by Raiden's small scale.

Earth wall is a perfect counter to Kakuzu's elemental techniques. Due to their large aoe, Kakuzu has no idea what is going on to the opponent in front of him. Like how he had no idea Kakashi had survived his wind mask combo with Hidan.
What if Kakuzu doesn't know what's happening behind the Earth Wall? His Raiton Mask does and so does any other mask that's outside of Kakuzu. Not to mention, even if Kakashi conceals himself via hiding like a mole or clone substitution he still has no options when it comes to taking Kakuzu out.

Kakuzu tries a large scale technique>Will lose sight of kakashi>Kakashi makes an earth wall>Immediately goes underground before the wall is destroyed. Read and don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say Earth wall would tank Kakuzu's techniques. I said Kakashi makes an earth wall AND will go underground.
Kakuzu would have no idea where Kakashi is at while underground, so any technique would be a waste of his chakra. Kakashi could pop up anywhere he wants. First time he could go for Kakuzu himself, and next time he goes for whatever he wants. Gian is humiliated like it was in canon. Kakashi outran it from god knows how many meters away. Gian ain't shit.
Smh stupid strategy but we can see where it gets you. And again, you're wrong in the sense that the Raiton mask can fire Gian at Kakashi while he's forming the earth wall and while he's going underground. Either way he dies from the Gian because he wanted to go underground, or he dies from the Katon+Futon because he chose not to go underground. Rofl at him going for Kakuzu though, last time he did this against Pein and caught his foot he got raped via ST, vs 30% Itachi he straight up got dodged, against Kakuzu he ends up getting punctured with Tendrils just like Naruto's clones were going poof one by one while getting punctured with tendrils. Terrible strategy and it will end up being Kakashi's demise. Good for Kakashi that he's fast, but because he's using the strategies your dumbass is setting up for him he's failing vs either Gian or Katon+Futon, your choice.
 

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1. He can extend his tendrils as far as he chooses. The distance between him and Choji was huge . That's not what one would consider 'extremely close'.
Any more distance than what Kakuzu caught Kakashi from, and Kakashi will dodge that shit.

2. Can Kakashi even use lightning wolf in a straight line if his arm is pointing down? The DB says he controls it with his arm movements, meaning it goes however he swings his arm around. If his arm is facing the floor then it won't be moving towards Kakuzu. And anyways, 'it covered the distance in an instant' means jack when it didn't surprise or blitz anyone. It was one panel to the next, and you can't quantify the time frame of a few panels. It has no speed feats at all, so don't act like it's some unavoidable attack smh. And what @bold? If Kakuzu has the wind mask on him like he did the time he caught Kakashi then the Lightning Beast gets negged with the Futon Blast and Kakashi ends up dying from the Katon+Futon, which would've happened had Yamato+Naruto not saved him with FRS+Suiton.
Look at Kakashi's wrist here, not being tangled by Kakuzu's tendrils

Kakashi only needs to flick his wrist, and the wolf will get kakuzu. Definitely in that kind of distance.
Wind mask's speed is ass. Naruto and Yamato had time to execute their techniques even though the wind mask was already in the middle of preparing its technique. Lightning wolf is faster than the mask.


This guy.. Kakashi would've died if Shikamaru didn't save them. Tendrils 'didn't do shit' because Kakashi had help from Shikamaru. Had Shikamaru failed, Kakashi would've been dead. And in that scan he had the intent to steal Kakashi's heart, that does not mean that Kakuzu will do that here given he hasn't lost any hearts vs Kakashi. So he goes for the kill via puncturing his brain. @bold, Kakashi got blitzed from ~2 meters and admitted his speed wasn't on the level of dodging something like that. The entire argument was Kakuzu being able to blitz Kakashi with Tendrils while Kakashi is dodging the large scale AOE attacks, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here since you seem to be agreeing. And rofl, how many Raiden's can Kakashi do before he's out of chakra, because that's a Kage Bunshin and 2 Raikiri's. Kakashi isn't sustaining that. Not to mention, something like this can't be countered by Raiden's small scale.
what the ****? The tendrils were already inside of kakashi, and kakuzu was in the middle of it.

The tendrils were already inside of Kakashi. After Kakashi tore them, he didn't show any sign of pain, or any sign of being discomforted by the threads. Tendrils ain't gonna do shit.
@bold, not only you're showing that you can't comprehend simple things, you're showing that you can't even read. Did you miss the title of the thread by any chance? This is war arc Kakashi. The guy that could spam techniques throughout war arc. The guy that not only had no problem using raiden, he later was trying to kamui to counter 5 bijuudamas. Reduce the MS effect, and Kakashi easily performs the techniques he can in 3 tomoe. The guy that could react to susanoo arrow, but you my dear friend, once again showed that you lack reading comprehension. But Kakuzu's tendrils can "blitz" Kakashi. Inb4 Apex trying to argue that Kakuzu's tendrils are as fast as Susanoo arrow.
And you say Kakuzu's tendrils can't be countered by raiden?


What is this?

The techniquue that could cut v2 jins' arms can't counter Kakuzu's tendrils. smh




What if Kakuzu doesn't know what's happening behind the Earth Wall? His Raiton Mask does and so does any other mask that's outside of Kakuzu. Not to mention, even if Kakashi conceals himself via hiding like a mole or clone substitution he still has no options when it comes to taking Kakuzu out.
So Kakuzu would risk getting his raiton mask obliterated by his other masks? :lol no
Kakuzu has no way of countering a Kakashi popping from underground. Even Pain was almost caught, and had to use a last second ST to get Kakashi

Kakashi can extend the length of his Kunai with raiton to reach Kakuzu even easier.
Now tell me again how Kakuzu gonna survive this?

Smh stupid strategy but we can see where it gets you. And again, you're wrong in the sense that the Raiton mask can fire Gian at Kakashi while he's forming the earth wall and while he's going underground. Either way he dies from the Gian because he wanted to go underground, or he dies from the Katon+Futon because he chose not to go underground. Rofl at him going for Kakuzu though, last time he did this against Pein and caught his foot he got raped via ST, vs 30% Itachi he straight up got dodged, against Kakuzu he ends up getting punctured with Tendrils just like Naruto's clones were going poof one by one while getting punctured with tendrils. Terrible strategy and it will end up being Kakashi's demise. Good for Kakashi that he's fast, but because he's using the strategies your dumbass is setting up for him he's failing vs either Gian or Katon+Futon, your choice.
Good for you to compare Kakuzu's reaction speed to Pain's.
Once agains Kakashi>>Gian in speed. Kakashi outsped it from too far way, and he'll do it again. Kakashi goes underground before Gian can reach him.
 

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Any more distance than what Kakuzu caught Kakashi from, and Kakashi will dodge that shit.
Ok.

Look at Kakashi's wrist here, not being tangled by Kakuzu's tendrils

Kakashi only needs to flick his wrist, and the wolf will get kakuzu. Definitely in that kind of distance.
Wind mask's speed is ass. Naruto and Yamato had time to execute their techniques even though the wind mask was already in the middle of preparing its technique. Lightning wolf is faster than the mask.
It does look like his right hands wrist is covered if you look correctly. And that scan was when Kakuzu's threads had no yet covered his other arm anyways, in which he could've expanded the tendrils area. But anyways, why are you arguing that Kakashi do something that he has canonically shown not to do? When Kakuzu caught Kakashi, Kakashi did NOT use Lightning Beast. That's a fact. Kakashi did NOT use it, so why are you saying he's going to do it when he's in the very same situation again? It would be totally and canonically out of character.

what the ****? The tendrils were already inside of kakashi, and kakuzu was in the middle of it.

The tendrils were already inside of Kakashi. After Kakashi tore them, he didn't show any sign of pain, or any sign of being discomforted by the threads. Tendrils ain't gonna do shit.
@bold, not only you're showing that you can't comprehend simple things, you're showing that you can't even read. Did you miss the title of the thread by any chance? This is war arc Kakashi. The guy that could spam techniques throughout war arc. The guy that not only had no problem using raiden, he later was trying to kamui to counter 5 bijuudamas. Reduce the MS effect, and Kakashi easily performs the techniques he can in 3 tomoe. The guy that could react to susanoo arrow, but you my dear friend, once again showed that you lack reading comprehension. But Kakuzu's tendrils can "blitz" Kakashi. Inb4 Apex trying to argue that Kakuzu's tendrils are as fast as Susanoo arrow.
And you say Kakuzu's tendrils can't be countered by raiden?
Yes, Kakuzu was trying to steal Kakashi's heart. He pierced Kakashi's flesh. Kakashi did not feel any pain because he has a high pain tolerance. What are you even trying to suggest here, smh? Kakuzu can pierce Kakashi's brain and the fight is DONE at that very point. Tendrils ain't gonna do shit is not what Kakashi was thinking prior to Shikamaru saving his ass, he almost lost his hear, FACT. "Threads ain't gonna do shit" only applies in situations where Kakashi will have outside help. Unfortunately for him this is a 1v1.
What the hell. :| Yes, Kakashi has more chakra as a War Arc. I'd very much hope that's the case because last I checked his chakra levels were mad low against Pain, and the final Kamui he used was all of his chakra. What you are saying is that he uses 2 Raikiri's and a clone at once as a counter to Kakuzu's tendrils. Kakashi cannot sustain that for say, 5 occasions, because that's 10 Raikiri's a clone and whatever other jutsu he's used. He has no chakra feats to support such a thing. @bold, I have no reason to believe said Kamui wouldn't take any less then the large majority of his chakra. @underlined, Kakashi can't react to it physically, just like he can't react to tendrils physically. Please learn the difference, Kakashi could obviously see the tendrils but he could not physically move in time, in the same way he could not physically move in time to dodge tendrils. Can he Kamui tendrils if he's looking straight at them when they attempt a 'blitz' on Kakashi? Obviously. Was the distance much larger between the arrows and the tendrils? About 5 times as large of a distance. FOH with your bullshit logic smh. @red Nice incompetence. I have yet to see where you gave me a reason to believe Raiden can counter an attack that comes from 5 different angles. He'll get hit by at least one of the sets of tendrils.


What is this?

The techniquue that could cut v2 jins' arms can't counter Kakuzu's tendrils. smh
Sick logic brah. Too bad they were nicely aligned for him whereas Kakuzu's threads are not. Your logic is basically since Naruto's sexy jutsu worked on kaguya it works on anything weaker then her. Fact is, the strength of the technique has little relevance to what it can and can't counter in terms of varying forms of attacks.



So Kakuzu would risk getting his raiton mask obliterated by his other masks? :lol no
Kakuzu has no way of countering a Kakashi popping from underground. Even Pain was almost caught, and had to use a last second ST to get Kakashi

Kakashi can extend the length of his Kunai with raiton to reach Kakuzu even easier.
Now tell me again how Kakuzu gonna survive this?
If you don't know your shit about the opposing character don't try to debate against him. Kakuzu's hearts leap tremendous distances , he's not being affected by any Katon+Futon combo.
Lol, this guy.. 30% Itachi dodged it no diff, Pain just never has cared to dodge anything when his Deva powers are off cooldown because he has no need to. Only because Kaguya got hit by Amaterasu and then absorbed it does not mean she couldn't have dodged it or blocked it. Stop using that shitty logic, and even if I was to say Kakashi can hit Kakuzu with a kunai or a punch, it won't be affecting Kakuzu. And no, he cannot use Hiding like a mole while also using Raikiri because he'd be using Doton from around his body while using Raiton from his hand, which is not possible unless you give me some logic or proof to support your argument. I don't need to argue why Kakuzu can react with his tendrils when this situation is never happening in the first place.

Good for you to compare Kakuzu's reaction speed to Pain's.
Once agains Kakashi>>Gian in speed. Kakashi outsped it from too far way, and he'll do it again. Kakashi goes underground before Gian can reach him.
Good for you to assume that Pain reacting=it requiring Pain reaction speed smfh. Your logic is absolute trash just like all of your arguments. Only because Kaguya reacts to a kunai by slapping it away doesn't mean anyone less than Kaguya's speed cannot slap it away. Anyways, I also compared to it to 30% Itachi's, except the 1/3rd Itachi also physically reacted whereas Kakuzu only has to react mentally with his tendrils.

@bold, that's not an argument. Please learn to construct actual arguments instead of mindlessly writing stupid shit. Yes, Kakashi is faster then Gian. Your argument is.. 1. Kakuzu uses katon+Futon, 2. Kakashi sets up earth wall, 3. Kakuzu uses Hiding like a Mole to go underground. The Raiton mask can fire Gian while Kakashi is trying to set up the earth wall, so regardless of what he does, he'll end up dying. Hell, even if Kakashi has gone underground or started to go underground, Gian has the power to pierce through at least 50cm of ground.
 

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It does look like his right hands wrist is covered if you look correctly. And that scan was when Kakuzu's threads had no yet covered his other arm anyways, in which he could've expanded the tendrils area. But anyways, why are you arguing that Kakashi do something that he has canonically shown not to do? When Kakuzu caught Kakashi, Kakashi did NOT use Lightning Beast. That's a fact. Kakashi did NOT use it, so why are you saying he's going to do it when he's in the very same situation again? It would be totally and canonically out of character.
No, his left hand wrist isn't bound

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So Kakashi not using Lightning wolf in that situation is out of character? Kakashi didn't use a lot of his other techniques. He could have used Kamui on one of the puppets, yet he didn't. He could have used raiden, but he didn't. Don't bring that bullshit here.



Yes, Kakuzu was trying to steal Kakashi's heart. He pierced Kakashi's flesh. Kakashi did not feel any pain because he has a high pain tolerance. What are you even trying to suggest here, smh? Kakuzu can pierce Kakashi's brain and the fight is DONE at that very point. Tendrils ain't gonna do shit is not what Kakashi was thinking prior to Shikamaru saving his ass, he almost lost his hear, FACT. "Threads ain't gonna do shit" only applies in situations where Kakashi will have outside help. Unfortunately for him this is a 1v1.
What the hell. :| Yes, Kakashi has more chakra as a War Arc. I'd very much hope that's the case because last I checked his chakra levels were mad low against Pain, and the final Kamui he used was all of his chakra. What you are saying is that he uses 2 Raikiri's and a clone at once as a counter to Kakuzu's tendrils. Kakashi cannot sustain that for say, 5 occasions, because that's 10 Raikiri's a clone and whatever other jutsu he's used. He has no chakra feats to support such a thing. @bold, I have no reason to believe said Kamui wouldn't take any less then the large majority of his chakra. @underlined, Kakashi can't react to it physically, just like he can't react to tendrils physically. Please learn the difference, Kakashi could obviously see the tendrils but he could not physically move in time, in the same way he could not physically move in time to dodge tendrils. Can he Kamui tendrils if he's looking straight at them when they attempt a 'blitz' on Kakashi? Obviously. Was the distance much larger between the arrows and the tendrils? About 5 times as large of a distance. FOH with your bullshit logic smh. @red Nice incompetence. I have yet to see where you gave me a reason to believe Raiden can counter an attack that comes from 5 different angles. He'll get hit by at least one of the sets of tendrils.
Sure, Kakashi can get pierced. But he won't. Piercing him in the first place is the first step, which Kakuzu is stuck at.
Are you stupid? Why does Kakashi have to stop using raiden, when he can keep it going, and get all of the hearts in one go? You're a dumbass for even saying the bold. Kakashi has no need of canceling his clone and then making another clone for every usage of raiden.

And please, learn the difference between early shippuden kakashi to danzo arc kakashi, to war arc kakashi.

Can you stop with this dogshit logic in underline? Kakuzu couldn't even stop a running Naruto in his track, but according to your top notch ape logic, Kakuzu can stop a far superior Kakashi in his track, or at all, for that matter

You've yet to show me a feat from Kakuzu's tendrils that let him catch war arc kakashi. Inb4 more bullshit about Kakuzu catching early part 2 Kakashi.

Butterfly Kakuzu has shit feats. The best feat is destroying a Naruto clone. Kakashi's best feat with Raiden? Being equal in speed to the punches that can create fire



Sick logic brah. Too bad they were nicely aligned for him whereas Kakuzu's threads are not. Your logic is basically since Naruto's sexy jutsu worked on kaguya it works on anything weaker then her. Fact is, the strength of the technique has little relevance to what it can and can't counter in terms of varying forms of attacks.
Raiden is basically a chain. It's extremely versatile. The way it moves depends on how Kakashi and his clone moves, which they are very nimble.


If you don't know your shit about the opposing character don't try to debate against him. Kakuzu's hearts leap tremendous distances , he's not being affected by any Katon+Futon combo.
which in turn become easier to dodge because of the bigger distance.

Lol, this guy.. 30% Itachi dodged it no diff, Pain just never has cared to dodge anything when his Deva powers are off cooldown because he has no need to. Only because Kaguya got hit by Amaterasu and then absorbed it does not mean she couldn't have dodged it or blocked it. Stop using that shitty logic, and even if I was to say Kakashi can hit Kakuzu with a kunai or a punch, it won't be affecting Kakuzu. And no, he cannot use Hiding like a mole while also using Raikiri because he'd be using Doton from around his body while using Raiton from his hand, which is not possible unless you give me some logic or proof to support your argument. I don't need to argue why Kakuzu can react with his tendrils when this situation is never happening in the first place.
the hell? How does it change the fact that Pain only noticed it at the last second? And the kunai wasn't even coated with raiton, which would increase the range. Pain would have been caught
Kakashi would go underground, and the moment he's jumping out, he'd coat his kunai with raiton.

Good for you to assume that Pain reacting=it requiring Pain reaction speed smfh. Your logic is absolute trash just like all of your arguments. Only because Kaguya reacts to a kunai by slapping it away doesn't mean anyone less than Kaguya's speed cannot slap it away. Anyways, I also compared to it to 30% Itachi's, except the 1/3rd Itachi also physically reacted whereas Kakuzu only has to react mentally with his tendrils.

@bold, that's not an argument. Please learn to construct actual arguments instead of mindlessly writing stupid shit. Yes, Kakashi is faster then Gian. Your argument is.. 1. Kakuzu uses katon+Futon, 2. Kakashi sets up earth wall, 3. Kakuzu uses Hiding like a Mole to go underground. The Raiton mask can fire Gian while Kakashi is trying to set up the earth wall, so regardless of what he does, he'll end up dying. Hell, even if Kakashi has gone underground or started to go underground, Gian has the power to pierce through at least 50cm of ground.
Why is this clown associating early part 2 Kakashi's feats to War arc? Itachi dodged early part 2 kakashi? Tremendous. Kakuzu caught early part 2 Kakashi with tendrils? Fantastic. Now why don't you talk about how they're applicable to war arc kakashi?
 

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The masks can. They're all connected to Kakuzu, similar to Pain is connected to Nagato. His chakra constantly circulates between the entities. Basically they can be seen as "extra Kakuzu". If movement can be performed while Kakuzu had "presumably" died, Jutsu can as well.
This analogy isn't exactly conducive to your argument, Doc. Nagato's chakra circulates, in a balanced manner in order to maintain the functionality of all the bodies, through the Six Paths of Pain via chakra receivers, but who is the one who has to mould chakra to use techniques and have them move? Nagato. What happens when Nagato concentrates a large portion of chakra onto one body in order to execute a technique that requires said large amount of chakra in proportion? The balance is disrupted and one or more bodies regress back to their naturally deceased state i.e. Shinra Tensei that destroyed the Leaf Village. What happens if Nagato dies? Now, if we take those facts and apply it to Kakuzu and how Earth Grudge Fear would work in the situation at hand, which is what you tried to do, we would have to conclude that all the masks die if Kakuzu dies. This is obviously not true.

Additionally, the bolded is a leap in logic, because moulding chakra to use jutsu is logically an action that is more complex and advanced than mere movement. Why didn't the lightning mask stream Raiton Gian to move Kakashi and co. out of the way? Did it know how to? Unless I see concrete evidence of the masks using techniques on their own discretion, I'll concede. Show me some proof, Doc, not speculation.


Raikiri Chain is useless when it doesnt cut a heart. Splitting Jingou parts is irrelevant and doesnt stop them. Plus Futon
Raikiri Wolf (DB stats) once lands uses electrocution. Kakashi still has to kill during electrocution time. Futon or going underground stops those though.
I'm not talking about splitting the threads?... I'm talking about Kakashi electrocuting the living hell out of the heart or completely slicing it with Raikiri Chain, and he'll know where it is inside the mask and threads thanks to his sharingan. Electrocuting the heart should stop it, effectively killing the mask which the heart resides in. If not, a simple Raikiri kunai slash finishes it. I agree with the last part, but unfortunately those masks are pretty slow in every aspect relating to movement, so I have a hard time believing that they'll swiftly anticipate and counter Kakashi's moves.

Proof brought up why they can use ninjutsu. Plus the fact that they have feats of being used with no hand seals.
Somehow I think that you have the feat of Kakuzu using the fire/wind combination while they were attached to him without using hand seals, but we'll see. That isn't proof that the masks can mould Kakuzu's chakra on their own and use techniques on their own.
 

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I'm not talking about splitting the threads?... I'm talking about Kakashi electrocuting the living hell out of the heart or completely slicing it with Raikiri Chain, and he'll know where it is inside the mask and threads thanks to his sharingan. Electrocuting the heart should stop it, effectively killing the mask which the heart resides in. If not, a simple Raikiri kunai slash finishes it. I agree with the last part, but unfortunately those masks are pretty slow in every aspect relating to movement, so I have a hard time believing that they'll swiftly anticipate and counter Kakashi's moves.
@Bold not true. Kakashi was not able to tell that what was inside Kakuzu via 5 hearts[ ]. Plus the fact that these hearts can move arou nd in a different location. So Kakashi would only make assumptions and hit it by luck. He would need to obliterate them all together.

@Underline, not according to Kakashi. Kakashi thinks Jingou movement is too fast, which the Hearts are the same material.


Somehow I think that you have the feat of Kakuzu using the fire/wind combination while they were attached to him without using hand seals, but we'll see. That isn't proof that the masks can mould Kakuzu's chakra on their own and use techniques on their own.
@Bold, Yea Pretty much.

Why isnt that proof? They can use Jingou on their own. And to use Jingou DB states you need to chakra[ ]. Also Kakuzu used no hand sign for Fire+Wind combo to attack Kakashi[ > ], which were genetic element attacks.

So they may not be able to use Gian, Zukokku , and Atsugai on their own but at least do their representative nature release
 
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WTF... Are you really all serious there is nothing to say about this... Kakashi said himself at Ichiraku That he would have defeated Kakuzu but that then he would have came to the hospital. Don't you know how to read? Stop saying stupid things because you underrated Kakashi... Kakuzu cannot be affected when you slash his body but can he really avoid a very close Kamui and then survive with his head on the other dimesion? I don't think so... Finally Kakashi wins high diff and war arc Kakashi low diff.
 

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WTF... Are you really all serious there is nothing to say about this... Kakashi said himself at Ichiraku That he would have defeated Kakuzu but that then he would have came to the hospital. Don't you know how to read? Stop saying stupid things because you underrated Kakashi... Kakuzu cannot be affected when you slash his body but can he really avoid a very close Kamui and then survive with his head on the other dimesion? I don't think so... Finally Kakashi wins high diff and war arc Kakashi low diff.
No he didnt....he said he'd use kamui to protect himself from Kakuzu's attack in order to survive...also MS is restricted here.
 

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But anyways he'd have done it, since we didn't see him activating his MS against Susano arrows which are faster than Kakuzu's attack. So Kakashi can do it pretty fast
Post Pain arc Kakashi's Kamui =/= Early Part 2 right after it took him chapters to do it, not to mention again he had ample enough time to do it before Naruto intervened.
 

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kakuzu owns,fuuton+katon combo,5 lives attacking simultaneously,was bout to get owned when naruto popped up(his war arc form aint making a difference)
 

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No he didnt....he said he'd use kamui to protect himself from Kakuzu's attack in order to survive...also MS is restricted here.
Saying that he would have been at the hospital without Naruto and co implies that he thought he would have survive. Also seems like I don't know how to read too ? i didn't ses the ms was restricted ! But yeah then Kakuzu takes him down high diff in war arc I think because of his 5 lives.
 

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No he didnt....he said he'd use kamui to protect himself from Kakuzu's attack in order to survive...also MS is restricted here.
I don't think he meant Kakuzu was gonna let him go recover at the hospital lol. I think he meant that he'd kill Kakuzu with it.
 

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I don't think he meant Kakuzu was gonna let him go recover at the hospital lol. I think he meant that he'd kill Kakuzu with it.
No that attack was gonna hit him and the rest, he was implying he would have kamuid it away but then he'd be in the hospital. Naruto and Yamato saved him that trouble. How would he kamui Kakuzu when the attack was already under way?

Using Kamui on Kakuzu would not be a good idea back then anyways considering he struggled to get Deidara's arm. Kakuzu has 5 lives and it wouldn't be smart to use it on an opponent he's not sure would go down with it, if something went wrong Kakashi would be exhausted after Kamui and then its game over.

Reason he was about to use it then was because he had no other option cause they were gonna get killed anyways so there's no reason not to use it to survive.
 
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