Susanoo Tier List

Beans2 · Sep 16, 2015

Updating it to include other avatars, namely Kurama and mokuton constructs.

Key:

PS= Perfect Susanoo

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V4= Armoured Susanoo

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V3= Complete Susanoo

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V2= Skeletal Susanoo

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V1= Ribcage Susanoo

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Black=Susanoo
Red=Kurama Avatar
Brown=Mokuton Construct
Green=PS/Kyubi fusion (only canon ones)

Underlined: Has no feats but is based on scaling.

I put Susanoo versions into tiers based on general power but mostly durability. I tried to order the tiers, so tell me if you disagree with any placements. Also, what tiers would the lower versions of Rikudou Sasuke's Susanoo (ribcage through Complete) be placed in?

Tier 1

VOTE2 Sasuke's Bijuu PS
RSM Naruto's Ashura Avatar
Double Rinnegan JJ Madara's PS

Tier 2

RSM Naruto's Kurama Avatar
Rikudou Sasuke's PS

Tier 3

DMS Kakashi's PS

Tier 4

The Last BSM Naruto's Kurama Avatar
Shinsuusenju
VOTE Madara's PS/Kyubi

Tier 5

EMS Sasuke+BSM Naruto PS/Kyubi

Tier 6

EMS Madara's PS
BSM Naruto's Avatar
EMS Sasuke's PS w/ Yin-Yang Kurama Cloak
SM Mokujin

Tier 8

EMS Sasuke's V4 w/ Yin-Yang Kurama Cloak
Naruto/Minato's BM Avatar
EMS Sasuke's PS
Base Mokujin

Tier 9

EMS Sasuke's V3 w/ Yin-Yang Cloak
Unstabilized PS (V4 Susanoo)

Tier 10

Itachi's V4 w/ Yata Mirror

Tier 11

SZ Yamato's Shinsuusenju
Sasuke's V4
Itachi's V4
Madara's V3

Tier 12

Itachi's V3
Sasuke's V3
Madara's V2

TheAncientCenturion · Sep 16, 2015

Tier 4

EMS Sasuke's V4 w/ Yin-Yang Kurama Cloak
EMS Sasuke's PS
EMS Sasuke's V3 w/ Yin-Yang Kurama Cloak
Madara's unstabilized PS (V4 Susanoo)

How are they in the same tier if V4 is naturally a tier above V3, and they have the same boost?

Beans2 · Sep 16, 2015

TheAncientCenturion said:
How are they in the same tier if V4 is naturally a tier above V3, and they have the same boost?

One is significantly stronger than the other, but not enough to be in different tiers. Same reason Sasuke and Kakashi have Ps in the same tier.

Chaosmark101 · Sep 16, 2015

Isn't V3 "

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? Also I agree with TAC. Tier 3 doesn't seem right. Specifically Sasukes PS with Senjutsu from Juugo being near Madara's.

Could be wrong though.

LuckyMan · Sep 16, 2015

The difference in Ridoku Kakashi and Ridoku Sasuke PS shouldn't be much. Sasuke has more Ridoku chakra, but the amount doesn't change how potent it is unless that only works for Bijuu, but I doubt it does.

I think you meant to rank Sasuke V3 with Kurama + Jugo, not PS.

Unorthodox · Sep 16, 2015

Rinnegan Sasuke ps needs its own tier there is no way in hell is his susanoo in the same tiers as Kakashi

who has an ounce of Haggy chakra while he has 50% of it add the fact he had no susanoo to began with while EMS Sasuke did not even comparable

LuckyMan said:
The difference in Ridoku Kakashi and Ridoku Sasuke PS shouldn't be much.

Cho dumbass up

Beans2 · Sep 16, 2015

Chaosmark101 said:
Isn't V3 "
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" while V4 is
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? Also I agree with TAC. Tier 3 doesn't seem right. Specifically Sasukes PS with Senjutsu from Juugo being near Madara's.

Could be wrong though.

Madara referred to unstabilized PS as Complete Susanoo so Complete=V4.

LuckyMan · Sep 16, 2015

Fei Zhengton said:
Rinnegan Sasuke ps needs its own tier there is no way in hell is his susanoo in the same tiers as Kakashi

who has an ounce of Haggy chakra while he has 50% of it add the fact he had no susanoo to began with while EMS Sasuke did not even comparable

Cho dumbass up

Not really. Ridoku chakra is Ridoku chakra. The amount shouldn't change the power of Susanoo, only the potency should, I think. The amount should logically only affect how long it can be spammed. Obito said even a small piece of Bijuu chakra is no less potent than the actual thing:

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This should work universally, not just with Bijuu. It explains why Madara could fight Naruto and Sasuke despite them having more Ridoku Chakra. It would also explain why Hashirama chakra, even a tiny bit, is still so strong and puts jutsu on steroids, as his actual chakra would.

Funny you already calling me dumb but you the first one to whine and cry when Kidgamer calls your ass dumb and you claim 'I don't trash talk" foh with that shit boy stop being a hypocrite.

Ootoriyu Jin · Sep 16, 2015

Great list man.

Ootoriyu Jin · Sep 16, 2015

Fei Zhengton said:
Rinnegan Sasuke ps needs its own tier there is no way in hell is his susanoo in the same tiers as Kakashi

who has an ounce of Haggy chakra while he has 50% of it add the fact he had no susanoo to began with while EMS Sasuke did not even comparable

Cho dumbass up

Stop wanking Sasuke.

Chaosmark101 · Sep 16, 2015

Beans2 said:
Madara referred to unstabilized PS as Complete Susanoo so Complete=V4.

I was just saying since you know the chapter is actually titled "The Complete Form of Susanoo...!!"

After all what Madara deems as "complete" for himself doesn't mean that title is applicable for other Susano'o users's. Especially a user without EMS.

KidGamer65 · Sep 16, 2015

Beans2 said:
One is significantly stronger than the other, but not enough to be in different tiers. Same reason Sasuke and Kakashi have Ps in the same tier.

But then that'd mean that you shouldn't have V4 and V3 in different tiers either.

And Chaosmark is right. V3 is Complete. V4 is Armored, hence it being the only Susanoo form w/ Armor aside from PS (which is called Complete Body-Susanoo)

Dondaime Hokage Naruto · Sep 16, 2015

KidGamer65 said:
But then that'd mean that you shouldn't have V4 and V3 in different tiers either.

And Chaosmark is right. V3 is Complete. V4 is Armored, hence it being the only Susanoo form w/ Armor aside from PS (which is called Complete Body-Susanoo)

That^^ and Madara's V4 tanked a Bijuu Dama from full kurama. Doubt EMS Sasuke Susanoo even with boosts can tank this... Edo Madara's PS?

EZQ · Sep 16, 2015

I think you should include Naruto's Avatars on the list too

KidGamer65 · Sep 16, 2015

EZQ said:
I think you should include Naruto's Avatars on the list too

Yeah, agreed with this.

-BM and BSM Avatar would go in the same tier as EMS Sasuke's PS.

-RSM Avatar would be in the same tier as RG Sasuke's PS.

-Asura Avatar goes in the same tier as BPS.

As for Sasuke's lower versions:

V3 and V4 might Tier 4 at least and Tier 3 at most. Maybe in between.

V2 should be in Tier 6, V1 in Tier 7. Maybe.

Apêx1 · Sep 16, 2015

LuckyMan said:
The difference in Ridoku Kakashi and Ridoku Sasuke PS shouldn't be much. Sasuke has more Ridoku chakra, but the amount doesn't change how potent it is unless that only works for Bijuu, but I doubt it does.

I think you meant to rank Sasuke V3 with Kurama + Jugo, not PS.

When Kakashi received the Kyuubi's v1 cloak he said it was not only much more then what he received initially from the Kyuubi but he also said it was much stronger then before. Applies to all chakra's, Rikudo chakra is no exception, so logically the PS would be much stronger.

OT: Yea, Kakashi's PS shouldn't be on the same tier as Sasuke's since the gap is massive, same with v4+Kyuubi and v3+kyuubi chakra.

LuckyMan · Sep 16, 2015

Apêx said:
When Kakashi received the Kyuubi's v1 cloak he said it was not only much more then what he received initially from the Kyuubi but he also said it was much stronger then before. Applies to all chakra's, Rikudo chakra is no exception, so logically the PS would be much stronger.

OT: Yea, Kakashi's PS shouldn't be on the same tier as Sasuke's since the gap is massive, same with v4+Kyuubi and v3+kyuubi chakra.

What chapter was that?

Curse Mark · Sep 16, 2015

Beans2 said:
PS= Perfect Susanoo
V4= Complete
V3= Armoured
V2= Skeletal
V1= Ribcage

I put Susanoo versions into tiers based on general power but mostly durability. I tried to order the tiers, so tell me if you disagree with any placements. Also, what tiers would the lower versions of Rikudou Sasuke's Susanoo (ribcage through Complete) be placed in?

Tier 1

VOTE2 Sasuke's Bijuu PS
Double Rinnegan JJ Madara's PS

Tier 2

Rikudou Sasuke's PS
DMS Kakashi's PS

Note there's still a significant difference between these two.

Tier 3

EMS Sasuke's PS w/ Yin-Yang Kurama Cloak + Juugo's Senjutsu
EMS Madara's PS
EMS Sasuke's PS w/ Yin-Yang Kurama Cloak

Tier 4

EMS Sasuke's V4 w/ Yin-Yang Kurama Cloak
EMS Sasuke's PS
EMS Sasuke's V3 w/ Yin-Yang Kurama Cloak
Madara's unstabilized PS (V4 Susanoo)

Tier 5

Itachi's V4 w/ Yata Mirror

Tier 6

Sasuke's V4
Itachi's V4
Madara's V3

Tier 7

Itachi's V3
Sasuke's V3
Madara's V2

Edit it with pictures for everything mentioned and its a cool thread. I'd give rep and like if it had pics.

Apêx1 · Sep 17, 2015

LuckyMan said:
What chapter was that?

This is the chapter

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. MS translation says it's more robust and denser, not sure about VIZ but I'm sure it's along the same lines.

Beans2 · Sep 17, 2015

dkdankong said:
Edit it with pictures for everything mentioned and its a cool thread. I'd give rep and like if it had pics.

Lel. I'm going to add pictures, Kurama avatars, and Mokuton constructs to this list. And I'll move some up and down based on replies.

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