[VS] Kidomaru vs Haku

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How exactly is he going to land those webs on her if she can set up her mirrors? Then there's the fact that she can freeze the webs around her and then shatter them easily, inb4 this is fan-fic when she can already freeze all the air molecules around her in any way she chooses.

He puts the webs... On the mirrors.... where she would need to come out of...
 

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I guess Haku can freeze and shatter Susano'o now,

everything haku is done with Ice has been a specific jutsu listed in the DB, just because its a KKG doesn't give you the ability to bend it like your from Avatar.
 

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I guess Haku can freeze and shatter Susano'o now,

everything haku is done with Ice has been a specific jutsu listed in the DB, just because its a KKG doesn't give you the ability to bend it like your from Avatar.

Oro should have revived Haku instead of the hokages to just freeze the juubi
 

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I guess Haku can freeze and shatter Susano'o now,

everything haku is done with Ice has been a specific jutsu listed in the DB, just because its a KKG doesn't give you the ability to bend it like your from Avatar.

Lmfao right....Spot on. Ice release is what it is and the user creates certain Jutsu's from this nature. If we're giving Haku all these, then there are a lot of boundaries we'll be crossing. Haku hasn't shown such so he doesn't get the Jutsu.

That's how it is and he doesn't get whatsoever he hasn't shown just because he's an Ice user.
 

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Being persistent with Haku being a girl, are we?:hmm: Kidomaru's stamps since its not hard to deduce Naruto's performance against him.
 

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I guess Haku can freeze and shatter Susano'o now,

everything haku is done with Ice has been a specific jutsu listed in the DB, just because its a KKG doesn't give you the ability to bend it like your from Avatar.

It's simple. If she can control the air around her and freeze it into a dome, if she can control the air around her and freeze separate parts into mirrors spaced out perfectly and far from her, then any logical person will come to the conclusion that her control over what is frozen and what remains untouched is beyond what the regular KKG entails. It's a unique KKG in that sense, because every other KKG does not work in a similar way as does Haku's Ice. She's not spitting out Ice, she's forming it at any location she chooses from the surrounding air.
 

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He puts the webs... On the mirrors.... where she would need to come out of...

Good thing Haku has a pseudo teleportation technique. [ - ]

The webs'll be useless since Haku can generate a new mirror and escape to it.
 

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Her water needles should definitely pierce Kido's gold armor, and if she freezes Kido, he's done for.

I don't recall it having any feats impressive enough for it to do that. They seem like average needles to me.
 

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I don't recall it having any feats impressive enough for it to do that. They seem like average needles to me.

And what are gold armour's durability feats? It's stopped the flow of chakra into it, it hasn't stopped some super powerful attack or anything of the like.
 

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Good thing Haku has a pseudo teleportation technique. [ - ]

The webs'll be useless since Haku can generate a new mirror and escape to it.

That scan shows Haku having to use a hand seal to deploy that sort of technique. The webs would definitely prevent that easily.
 

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And what are gold armour's durability feats? It's stopped the flow of chakra into it, it hasn't stopped some super powerful attack or anything of the like.

Said to be a , and there's no reason to assume Kidomaru can't thicken it at his own disclosure. Which is enough to stop needles with no substantial penetrating feats.
 

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That scan shows Haku having to use a hand seal to deploy that sort of technique. The webs would definitely prevent that easily.

We see Haku have a hand sign in the mirror, not to mention the mirror has a back side to it as well [ - ]. Not sure how Haku can't make use of the jutsu, especially if Kido just webs a random mirro she's in.
 

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And what are gold armour's durability feats? It's stopped the flow of chakra into it, it hasn't stopped some super powerful attack or anything of the like.

Dude Kidomaru took 64 palms and was slammed through a massive tree....


Good thing Haku has a pseudo teleportation technique. [ - ]

The webs'll be useless since Haku can generate a new mirror and escape to it.

We were talking about inside the ice dome.
 

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We see Haku have a hand sign in the mirror, not to mention the mirror has a back side to it as well [ - ]. Not sure how Haku can't make use of the jutsu, especially if Kido just webs a random mirro she's in.

Depends if he's inside or outside the mirror but that point I gave about him leaving Neji should debunk him getting captured in the Ice mirrors.

That wasn't a teleportation technique but a mirror formed above Sai. Well you could say so but it was one technique requiring one hand seal for the mirror. That scan with Haku using a seal is her still holding the same seal she was using while she was on land before she got above. The same seal used to activate the technique and not a new hand seal for a new Jutsu while in the mirror. If the mirror is up which is his most powerful technique, how's Haku going to use another technique with a previous one(that's supposed to be her strongest) still active? Besides that, creating a new mirror requires excessive use of chakra which eventually slows him down leaving him opened for the kill since he can't even find Kidomaru. Though you have a good point with the back of the Ice, it would also be useless against Kidomaru since he can either break one leading to the destruction of the others or just outlast her since he can't hold it on for long. He should also be able to react to her as well in his level 2 state considering he could to Neji in his Base state.


If he gets hits before he forms that, he'll have no way of escaping the web with a hand seal. Kidomaru could at least hit Neji who has better reflexes before he escape and like I showed, he could leave his presence into the trees which the location prevents before Neji could realize this. This would make the Ice mirror totally useless once Kidomaru escapes and starts his attack. Or Kidomaru can aim to destroy the Mirror with a powerful arrow leading to the end of the technique while leaving Haku busy with his summon
 

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Said to be a , and there's no reason to assume Kidomaru can't thicken it at his own disclosure. Which is enough to stop needles with no substantial penetrating feats.

And regular metallic needles can pierce 5mm of steel [ ]. Kidomaru isn't steel, he's metal, thus even less durable then what can be pierced by regular needles from a bunch of fodder. Haku's Water needles are logically much stronger and move at a far faster speed, meaning they penetrate more and still shit on Kidomaru's weaker then steeld defence.

For those people saying Haku is too slow..
1. Haku could feel Zabuza was in danger due to her high perceptive skills since she mastered Silent Killing. That should help against the likes of Kidomaru too.

2. Haku shunshin'd and disappeared from Naruto's sight, while setting up a mirror near Zabuza even though she couldn't even see him.

3. This is the distance between Kakashi and Zabuza whilst Kakashi was already running at top speed via Raikiri. Yet not ONLY does she appear there before Kakashi can hit since she manifested an ice mirror without sight of them (perceptive feat) she also destroyed Kakashi's contract with the dogs to save Zabuza ALL before Kakashi could reach Zabuza. So if she can play on Kakashi levels of speed with her mirror (while serious) then there's clearly some insane speed she has there.

Lol @ everyone saying Kido stomps her speed wise, when last I checked Neji was astonished by Lee's speed and Sasuke's speed with Chidori=Lee's speed. Kakashi's speed with Raikirr>>>Sasuke's speed and Lee's speed. All Haku needs to do is place a mirror around Kidomaru and smash him with a 1000 water needles for gg. Inb4 Kidomaru can react when Neji pretty much blitzed him towards the end of their fight from a huge distance.
 

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And what are gold armour's durability feats? It's stopped the flow of chakra into it, it hasn't stopped some super powerful attack or anything of the like.

Kidomaru's webs have stopped , and has the hype of being able to " ". Considering that his armor is made from the same substance that makes his webs, the fact that he can boost its effectiveness with CM1 and 2, and the fact that Haku's attacks with needles (whether water or otherwise) have no feats of being powerful, I don't see why Kido would have trouble tanking them.
 

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Kidomaru's webs have stopped , and has the hype of being able to " ". Considering that his armor is made from the same substance that makes his webs, the fact that he can boost its effectiveness with CM1 and 2, and the fact that Haku's attacks with needles (whether water or otherwise) have no feats of being powerful, I don't see why Kido would have trouble tanking them.

Why should I care about his web's durability? lol
 
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