Onoki and Guruguru-Yamato vs EMS Sasuke and Jugo

[Manda II]

Location: Guruguru vs Gokage
Restriction: PS
Intel: Full.


Who wins?

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke solos low diff

 

[Beans2]

Sasuke and Juugo win low diff.

Senjutsu Susanoo can probably tank SS. Amaterasu or Susanoo arrows kill Onoki.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke and Juugo win low diff.

Senjutsu Susanoo can probably tank SS. Amaterasu or Susanoo arrows kill Onoki.

Standing v4 susanoo tanks that effortlessly Base Ei was ripping its arm off in base amaterasu along with enton spikes ruins that thing

Sasuke wins neg - low diff like i said

 

[Beans2]

Standing v4 susanoo tanks that effortlessly Base Ei was ripping its arm off in base amaterasu along with enton spikes ruins that thing

Sasuke wins neg - low diff like i said

And I said Sasuke wins low diff as well so what exactly are you disagreeing on.

 

[Blunt]

And I said Sasuke wins low diff as well so what exactly are you disagreeing on.

Sasuke and Juugo win low diff.

Senjutsu Susanoo can probably tank SS. Amaterasu or Susanoo arrows kill Onoki.

@Bold. He's saying there is no probably in this matter, it tanks it with zero question.

OP: Like everyone has said, Sasuke low difficulty.

 

[Curse Mark]

I'd like to hear more people's opinions. Bump.
But at the same time, I think this is in team 2's favor.

Edit: Make it MS Sasuke who went head to head with Danzo but with full health and they lose. Jugo and him wouldn't be able to or know to merge and that form of V3 susanno doesn't tank shit of the elemental attacks SS puts out.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'd like to hear more people's opinions. Bump.
But at the same time, I think this is in team 2's favor.

Edit: Make it MS Sasuke who went head to head with Danzo but with full health and they lose. Jugo and him wouldn't be able to or know to merge and that form of V3 susanno doesn't tank shit of the elemental attacks SS puts out.

:lol Unless I died and ended up in a universe where 5 elemental streams can output as much as Kirin can, they never break any version of Susanoo above V2. Though SZ Yamato would win.

OT: Not sure where this low diff stuff everyone is talking about came from. If this were low diff Sasuke would be able to casually stroll up to Mini SS while in his Susanoo and start manhandling it when in reality, SS would manhandle Sasuke's Susanoo in CQC, Senjutsu or not.

-Ay cut through one arm. Irrelevant because all arms>>>>>>>>>>One arm. Madara can cut through one arm yet when every arm hit his Susanoo, SS won.

-SS dwarfs Sasuke's Susanoo even though it's puny in comparison to Hashirama's.
-SS's physical power is far beyond Sasuke's Susanoo.
-SS can catch his blade or it can catch his arm.
-If Sasuke manages to cut one arm or two while in CQC with it, the other 900 something arms would pound it into the dirt, while Sasuke can do nothing about it.

-Any summons are killed via elemental spam or Mokuton branches.
-Jugo is offensively useless bar giving Senjutsu to Sasuke.

Match depends on whether or not a Mini Chojo Kebutsu can bust/damage a V4 Susanoo, and it probably can given enough time. If Sasuke wins it obviously isn't low diff, and he'll obviously need Kirin to win because if he engages it with Susanoo he gets molested. It's defense is the only debatable point of a Mini SS vs. V4 Susanoo debate. At least V4 Susanoo from Sasuke. (Madara's would dominate)

As for Onoki, Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrows would take him out....assuming he lets himself get open for that. Instead, he can just hide behind SS, and either:

-Prep Jinton and then fire it through SS so he can take Sasuke out.
-Use Added Weight and Lightened Boulder Jutsu like he did for Ay to speed up SS's strikes, and then make them extremely heavy to increase their power right before impact.

So SZ can solo, w/ Onoki it's a definite win.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

With PS restricted Onoki and Yamato wins this. Jugo is fodder here and irrelevant.

 

[Manda II]

:lol Unless I died and ended up in a universe where 5 elemental streams can output as much as Kirin can, they never break any version of Susanoo above V2. Though SZ Yamato would win.

OT: Not sure where this low diff stuff everyone is talking about came from. If this were low diff Sasuke would be able to casually stroll up to Mini SS while in his Susanoo and start manhandling it when in reality, SS would manhandle Sasuke's Susanoo in CQC, Senjutsu or not.

-Ay cut through one arm. Irrelevant because all arms>>>>>>>>>>One arm. Madara can cut through one arm yet when every arm hit his Susanoo, SS won.

-SS dwarfs Sasuke's Susanoo even though it's puny in comparison to Hashirama's.
-SS's physical power is far beyond Sasuke's Susanoo.
-SS can catch his blade or it can catch his arm.
-If Sasuke manages to cut one arm or two while in CQC with it, the other 900 something arms would pound it into the dirt, while Sasuke can do nothing about it.

-Any summons are killed via elemental spam or Mokuton branches.
-Jugo is offensively useless bar giving Senjutsu to Sasuke.

Match depends on whether or not a Mini Chojo Kebutsu can bust/damage a V4 Susanoo, and it probably can given enough time. If Sasuke wins it obviously isn't low diff, and he'll obviously need Kirin to win because if he engages it with Susanoo he gets molested. It's defense is the only debatable point of a Mini SS vs. V4 Susanoo debate. At least V4 Susanoo from Sasuke. (Madara's would dominate)

As for Onoki, Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrows would take him out....assuming he lets himself get open for that. Instead, he can just hide behind SS, and either:

-Prep Jinton and then fire it through SS so he can take Sasuke out.
-Use Added Weight and Lightened Boulder Jutsu like he did for Ay to speed up SS's strikes, and then make them extremely heavy to increase their power right before impact.

So SZ can solo, w/ Onoki it's a definite win.

Thought the same about the low difficulty replies. Team 1 has way too much firepower going on for them to get low diffed. If they're going to lose, it should something along the lines of moderate to high difficulty. In any case, I would like to see a full counter to this.

 

[Draegod]

:lol Unless I died and ended up in a universe where 5 elemental streams can output as much as Kirin can, they never break any version of Susanoo above V2. Though SZ Yamato would win.

OT: Not sure where this low diff stuff everyone is talking about came from. If this were low diff Sasuke would be able to casually stroll up to Mini SS while in his Susanoo and start manhandling it when in reality, SS would manhandle Sasuke's Susanoo in CQC, Senjutsu or not.

-Ay cut through one arm. Irrelevant because all arms>>>>>>>>>>One arm. Madara can cut through one arm yet when every arm hit his Susanoo, SS won.

-SS dwarfs Sasuke's Susanoo even though it's puny in comparison to Hashirama's.
-SS's physical power is far beyond Sasuke's Susanoo.
-SS can catch his blade or it can catch his arm.
-If Sasuke manages to cut one arm or two while in CQC with it, the other 900 something arms would pound it into the dirt, while Sasuke can do nothing about it.

-Any summons are killed via elemental spam or Mokuton branches.
-Jugo is offensively useless bar giving Senjutsu to Sasuke.

Match depends on whether or not a Mini Chojo Kebutsu can bust/damage a V4 Susanoo, and it probably can given enough time. If Sasuke wins it obviously isn't low diff, and he'll obviously need Kirin to win because if he engages it with Susanoo he gets molested. It's defense is the only debatable point of a Mini SS vs. V4 Susanoo debate. At least V4 Susanoo from Sasuke. (Madara's would dominate)

As for Onoki, Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrows would take him out....assuming he lets himself get open for that. Instead, he can just hide behind SS, and either:

-Prep Jinton and then fire it through SS so he can take Sasuke out.
-Use Added Weight and Lightened Boulder Jutsu like he did for Ay to speed up SS's strikes, and then make them extremely heavy to increase their power right before impact.

So SZ can solo, w/ Onoki it's a definite win.

Too add, The very earth and ground they stand on is controled no diff! Deep forrest emergence also hinders and blocks eye sight for Onoki to low diff Jinton snipe since he would be protected from Ama and we also have the wood barrier for him to camp behind then Jinton Snipe light saber there ass no diff. WTF were they even thinking???? No-neg diff, or Yamato solo's.

 

[Curse Mark]

Was V3 the version Sasuke used against danzo/baki?

 

[Draegod]

Was V3 the version Sasuke used against danzo/baki?

Yea, but add cm chakra

 

[EZQ]

lmao people. I came here to say the first duo wins low diff.

Without PS Sasuke isn't matching Guguru. Don't underrate Zetsmato.

Sasuke's susano:

-Can't tank SS no damage
-Can't match SS in raw strenght and power
-SS dwarfs Sasuke's susano
-Considering Jinton can destroy Susano, using long scale elemental attacks to block sasuke's LoS and distract him as Onoki preps Jinton with a doton bunshin as distraction might work
-Sasuke can't take down Guguru via amaterasu given the fact that his Kagutsuchi's limit was already showed when he needed FRS to expand his fire fast trough the Juubi, and didn't take a big enough area to make me think he can take Guguru down with it.

Sasuke and Juugo would get pwned. Owned. Raped. Molested.

 

[Curse Mark]

lmao people. I came here to say the first duo wins low diff.

Without PS Sasuke isn't matching Guguru. Don't underrate Zetsmato.

Sasuke's susano:

-Can't tank SS no damage
-Can't match SS in raw strenght and power
-SS dwarfs Sasuke's susano
-Considering Jinton can destroy Susano, using long scale elemental attacks to block sasuke's LoS and distract him as Onoki preps Jinton with a doton bunshin as distraction might work
-Sasuke can't take down Guguru via amaterasu given the fact that his Kagutsuchi's limit was already showed when he needed FRS to expand his fire fast trough the Juubi, and didn't take a big enough area to make me think he can take Guguru down with it.

Sasuke and Juugo would get pwned. Owned. Raped. Molested.

What does senjutsu even do to the susanno?

Yea, but add cm chakra

Danzo's wind jutsu were slicing open the back of it. SZ's wind jutsu was much larger, should be able to blow a hole right through it.

 

[EZQ]

What does senjutsu even do to the susanno?

-It gives it the ability to hurt a onmiyoudon user, since he can't cancel senjutsu
-It inreases it's physicall capabilities since it was portrayed to be equal with BM avatar, altough this time Sasuke doesn't have the kiuuby boost, so probably his susano is not even legged this time.

 

[Curse Mark]

-It gives it the ability to hurt a onmiyoudon user, since he can't cancel senjutsu
-It inreases it's physicall capabilities since it was portrayed to be equal with BM avatar, altough this time Sasuke doesn't have the kiuuby boost, so probably his susano is not even legged this time.

So like, speed and power?

How do we know kurama was why it was legged?

 

[Unorthodox]

Where is bishop bullwinkle when you need him Hell to the Naw! *****h must have woke up in the twlight zone with all this bs im reading.

OT: Not sure where this low diff stuff everyone is talking about came from. If this were low diff Sasuke would be able to casually stroll up to Mini SS while in his Susanoo and start manhandling it when in reality, SS would manhandle Sasuke's Susanoo in CQC, Senjutsu or not.

GTFOH arm was riped off by base Ei who physical strength is not even greater than A Ribcage susanoo hand but ill shit on the rest of this post.

Ay cut through one arm. Irrelevant because all arms>>>>>>>>>>One arm. Madara can cut through one arm yet when every arm hit his Susanoo, SS won.

Irrelevant and a shitty ass comparison Madara's susanoo cannot smack one of SS arms off like its nothing that alone destroys majority of your shitty argument.

SS dwarfs Sasuke's Susanoo even though it's puny in comparison to Hashirama's.

It does not dwarf it please V4 susanoo > V3 in size which are much larger than human bodies.

SS's physical power is far beyond Sasuke's Susanoo.

Hashirama yes but what feats put Zetsu's far above a standing v4 susanoo i'll wait considering it could stop stop Ei physically in his base and arms was shredded by karin chains its physical abilities are piss poor and far from V4 susanoo.

SS can catch his blade or it can catch his arm.

You cannot catch a Enton blade and if Ei could smack an Arm off a v4 susanoo does the same so its not restraining a arm either.

If Sasuke manages to cut one arm or two while in CQC with it, the other 900 something arms would pound it into the dirt, while Sasuke can do nothing about it.

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That buddah has no where near 1000 hands so this post needs to be took down.
If it did all of them would not even put a dent on his susanoo which would dodged majority of them with ease and touches his susanoo does nothing but spread the enton/amaterasu faster.

Any summons are killed via elemental spam or Mokuton branches.

No need for summonings Amaterasu > all those elements 1 amaterasu to the face while Magatamas are like a machine gun rapid firing amaterasu at it this can also be done while Sasuke is dicing the buddah up considering susanoo has 4 arms

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1 arm holding enton blade other with susanoo blade the 3rd with another enton blade while one shoots Magatamas

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Match depends on whether or not a Mini Chojo Kebutsu can bust/damage a V4 Susanoo, and it probably can given enough time. If Sasuke wins it obviously isn't low diff, and he'll obviously need Kirin to win because if he engages it with Susanoo he gets molested. It's defense is the only debatable point of a Mini SS vs. V4 Susanoo debate. At least V4 Susanoo from Sasuke. (Madara's would dominate)

Shutup your dumbass up Chojo kebutsu is dodged or diced up Not even close to taken down his susanoo Kirin will be used but not needed.

As for Onoki, Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrows would take him out....assuming he lets himself get open for that. Instead, he can just hide behind SS, and either:

Onoki is killed the moment he shows himself.

Prep Jinton and then fire it through SS so he can take Sasuke out.

Sasuke can see chakra he dodges that but how does Onoki see through SS?

Use Added Weight and Lightened Boulder Jutsu like he did for Ay to speed up SS's strikes, and then make them extremely heavy to increase their power right before impact.

Still not bursting his Susanoo being heavy does not increase your durability the same attack that could swat it would swat it still enton blade and susanoo blade add enton spikes the buddah is negged to death Ei only broke v3 because of the blast that came through this buddah is not dishing out that blast so its raped.

So SZ can solo, w/ Onoki it's a definite win.

Not even close!

Thought the same about the low difficulty replies. Team 1 has way too much firepower going on for them to get low diffed. If they're going to lose, it should something along the lines of moderate to high difficulty. In any case, I would like to see a full counter to this.

What firepower? only thing they have is jinton which can put a dent on his susanoo. Low diff fight Gyuki size amaterasu lights that buddah add the fact its wood enton spreads faster Followed by enton spikes and blade to much to overcome add the fact that Orochimaru and hebi was able to dodge its attack untill spiral zetsu attacked himself Sasuke dodges it with ease.

Too add, The very earth and ground they stand on is controled no diff! Deep forrest emergence also hinders and blocks eye sight for Onoki to low diff Jinton snipe since he would be protected from Ama and we also have the wood barrier for him to camp behind then Jinton Snipe light saber there ass no diff. WTF were they even thinking???? No-neg diff, or Yamato solo's.

Where is the proof it can do that? How is that blocking his eye sight when he see's right through it and see's Onoki phuck outa here add the fact that he hops above the forest and 1 shots onoki with amaterasu. Jinton is literally dodged on feet by his susanoo water ever wall he has is not protecting against a barrage of susanoo arrows.

Expected nothing less from one of the biggest uchiha hater on the site Sasuke negs the whole hyuga family.

Without PS Sasuke isn't matching Guguru. Don't underrate Zetsmato.

Big ass joke

Can't tank SS no damage

Because those punches are so deadly when they have zero feats of doing anything relevant to people who do not even have decent defensive feats. Those punches are tanked neg diff or counter attack with Sasuke chops his a kenjutsu master unlike madara he can swing his sword far faster and much more efficient.

Can't match SS in raw strenght and power

Who's whole arm was smacked apart by Base Ei who physical prowess does not even compare to a ribcage susanoo hand
V4 standing susanoo owns this off brand ss in raw power.

SS dwarfs Sasuke's susano

Considering Jinton can destroy Susano, using long scale elemental attacks to block sasuke's LoS and distract him as Onoki preps Jinton with a doton bunshin as distraction might work

Not all a distraction when Sasuke susanoo can run freely while being hit both those weak attacks add the fact that his amaterasu shits on all those elements and can match them with no diff. What in the world can a doton bushin do the real onoki gets shot down with no diff amaterasu.Susanoo arrow./

Sasuke can't take down Guguru via amaterasu given the fact that his Kagutsuchi's limit was already showed when he needed FRS to expand his fire fast trough the Juubi, and didn't take a big enough area to make me think he can take Guguru down with it.

In that Amaterasu was the size of Juubi's back which dwarf any bijuu and that buddah considering v1 juubi finger length was Gyuki size His largest Amaterasu was the size of Gyuki add the fact he can spread it with enton from a far the Buddah is roasted plus its wood which helps fire spread anyways.

Sasuke and Juugo would get pwned. Owned. Raped. Molested.

Not even close.

 

[EZQ]

So like, speed and power?

How do we know kurama was why it was legged?

Because Kurama avatar gave Kakashi's kamui the ability to even warp the Juubi away (Obito stoppedhim) so there's the evidence it increases the power so much. So there's no reason to believe that Sasuke, who's previous susano didn't have legs even in v4 mode, can make a legged v3 without the chakra boost.

 

[Unorthodox]

Because Kurama avatar gave Kakashi's kamui the ability to even warp the Juubi away (Obito stoppedhim) so there's the evidence it increases the power so much. So there's no reason to believe that Sasuke, who's previous susano didn't have legs even in v4 mode, can make a legged v3 without the chakra boost.

Chakra ran out he made PS yet he cannot make a standing susanoo

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