Danzo vs 3T Itachi

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MS Sasuke was shown dodging V1 Killer Bee while in mid-air
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Sasuke was only caught due to his bloodlust for Danzo

I think that wasn't a mid air dodge. As the scan shos Sasuke used Bee's own body to take impulse and jump
 

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I think that wasn't a mid air dodge. As the scan shos Sasuke used Bee's own body to take impulse and jump

Him jumping off his body is still dodging correct? The point is Sasuke could have evaded the curse seal grab if he wanted too.
 
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The scan i posted before might or might not be considered a mid air dodge since Sasuke had a tree near him so he could have used it to push himself back. But this one is definitely a mid air dodge

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Anyway DON'T LOSE MY POINT PEOPLE

Kishi making mid-air movement possible or not is not relevant.

Danzo actually moved from point a to point b and grabbed Sasuke's neck before Sasuke did anything. If while mid air he couldn't have dodged, he could have blocked. But he didn't.

Danzo's striking speed is high.
 
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Him jumping off his body is still dodging correct? The point is Sasuke could have evaded the curse seal grab if he wanted too.

Well i see your point. Sasuke could have used Danzo's same body to change his movement direction and dodging. Nice point.
 

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Well i see your point. Sasuke could have used Danzo's same body to change his movement direction and dodging. Nice point.

When you were arguing with KG this yesterday night I remembered back to that scan. I tried to determine whether or not Danzo had striking speed > V1 Bee's movement speed. But that didn't seem right at all. I chalk it as an inconsistency.
 

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How is sasuke considered fast from jumping from a higher spot to a lower one? Every object goes down the same speed on free fall.

Kishi just trolls logic. Kakashi has dodges mid air, Kabuto has too. Look Sasuke dodging mid air again

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I'd agree never the less that with the logic applied on vs threads it's not a good feat. But, Danzo actually getting to Sasuke's neck so fast that sasuke didn't even manage to do anything before is pretty fast.

@first one How do you know he jumpd and didn't shunshin that distance? There should be no problem running on such a wall

@second one, Deidara was looking at Tobi and right after that Sasuke shunshin's behind Deidara and jumped from behind. He did not leap from next to Tobi, 180'd and appeared behind Deidara, that makes no sense. Most speed feats are due to initial shunshin. In the Hidan case both of them are jumping backwards and they both JUST leaped from a tree. The initial speed of a leap would be faster then the initial part of a run since you input much more force to go such a distance. Against Danzo he leaped and then got caught after he was already travelling downwards, meaning the momentum was much less at that point. Against Sasuke, Danzo fired the Futon when Sasuke was at same height as he was yet Sasuke jumped above the Futon and then appeared at the same level as Danzo when he reached him. Thus he was moving downwards at that point, thus he lost momentum, thus he was much slower. Same thing applies to the Darui case, he jump and then reached a lower altitude as he lost momentum.
 

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Pretty sure EZQ makes things clear. It's a good feat from Danzo.
 
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@apex i'll be on your post later. I think you don't understand what i mean
 
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