The Sexist Author.

[Endles Waltz]

He did a pretty good job in the regular Naruto.

Shippuden was just ass.

Your ava is just ass.

OT: He's just bad at writing females in a shounen, it's not enough to call him sexist as a person.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Sorta. Its a battle manga so males usually end up being more focused on..and rightfully so.

So is Bleach. Yet the females in Bleach get a shit tons more focus compared to Naruto.

at least they didn't send their comrade on a suicidal mission.

What are you even talking about? That's not even close to letting Orochimaru go around and stealing bodies.

 

[Dannie]

Your ava is just ass.

I see what you did :lol

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Nah...he is far better than the likes of Toriyama, Oda, Hiro etc....in this matter atleast. Actually the tag of sexist fits mangas like Freezing more coz in such mangas alll we see is female characters roaming in lingerie/naked soloing male characters right and left. And all male characters other than the MC are trash of the society. Whereas in Naruto u have got a female who is hokage, a female who is the strongest character, and females with great will....Temari, Konan, Tsunade etc.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Nah...he is far better than the likes of Toriyama, Oda, Hiro etc....in this matter atleast. Actually the tag of sexist fits mangas like Freezing more coz in such mangas alll we see is female characters roaming in lingerie/naked soloing male characters right and left. And all male characters other than the MC are trash of the society. Whereas in Naruto u have got a female who is hokage, a female who is the strongest character, and females with great will....Temari, Konan, Tsunade etc.

Why? Toriyama actually made his female lead(Bulma) feel like a main character all the way up to the Namek arc and portrayed her as a genius. Even after that she had a pretty big supporting role in the Android arc that showed off her intelligence. She was only pairing fodder in the Majin Arc.

Same can't said for Sakura.

 

[Endles Waltz]

Why? Toriyama actually made his female lead(Bulma) feel like a main character all the way up to the Namek arc and portrayed her as a genius. Even after that she had a pretty big supporting role in the Android arc that showed off her intelligence. She was only pairing fodder in the Majin Arc.

Same can't said for Sakura.

Actually the exact same and more can be said about Sakura.

Sakura played a much larger and more influential role in Naruto than Bulma in DBZ.

But of course you've got some very strong Anti-Sakura goggles there that don't allow you to see the obvious. :lol

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Nami and Robin practically look the same.

@Bold, trying to guess if you are insulting Sasuke's character or Sakura's.

I literally had no clue for the longest time that Boa Hancock & Robin weren't the same person. Oda's females are awful. The visual difference? One has a slightly bigger rack. My mistake.

 

[Avani]

So is Bleach. Yet the females in Bleach get a shit tons more focus compared to Naruto.



What are you even talking about? That's not even close to letting Orochimaru go around and stealing bodies.

And yet people complain about Bleach too.

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It's not like other mangas do it much better. Mangas like Freezing use sexual objectification to gain readers shamelessly. Sometimes one wonder how the hell that costume is still hanging on and why it's even there when it's providing no support to the specific parts as it needs to. Nor that comic industry does it that much better.

"Tower Prep' creator Paul Dini was told by higher-ups at Cartoon Network to make his female characters "one step behind the boys, not as smart as the boys, not as interesting as the boys."

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Or the controversy over drawing of spider woman VS spider man.

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[MAN OF SIN]

Actually the exact same and more can be said about Sakura.

Sakura played a much larger and more influential role in Naruto than Bulma in DBZ.

But of course you've got some very strong Anti-Sakura goggles there that don't allow you to see the obvious. :lol

Hahahahahaha!

Bulma is the reason why the Dragon Ball story even happened in the first place. So she had far more influence in that story than Sakura ever had and not to mention we knew about her family(more than even Goku's) unlike Sakura.

>Started Goku's jounary
>Introduced the Dragon Balls
>Created the Dragon Ball radar
>Is the reason why the heroes got to Namek
>Gave birth to Trunks and created the time machine
>One of the reasons why Vegeta turned around

There is are probably others I forgot since its been a long time.

And yet people complain about Bleach too.

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Old as hell. But my point was that compared to Naruto Bleach is a manga that treats its females a lot better.

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It's not like other mangas do it much better. Mangas like Freezing use sexual objectification to gain readers shamelessly. Sometimes one wonder how the hell that costume is still hanging on and why it's even there when it's providing no support to the specific parts as it needs to. Nor that comic industry does it that much better.

The comic industry actually gives female characters there own comics and story arcs for decades. So yes, they are much better than Naruto.

"Tower Prep' creator Paul Dini was told by higher-ups at Cartoon Network to make his female characters "one step behind the boys, not as smart as the boys, not as interesting as the boys."

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Okay, that was BS.

Or the controversy over drawing of spider woman VS spider man.

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So what about a variant cover sexualiziling a character? No man complains about yaoi books.

 

[Dark Sonic]

I see where you're coming from.

 

[Avani]

Old as hell. But my point was that compared to Naruto Bleach is a manga that treats its females a lot better.

What can I say - that fandom is barely active to say much at all. But I have seen similar complaints before.

The comic industry actually gives female characters there own comics and story arcs for decades. So yes, they are much better than Naruto.

Did you just compare Naruto to the whole comic industry? And completely ignored the issue of sexual objectification...

Okay, that was BS.

Well that's Cartoon network for you and the reality.

DINI: "They're all for boys 'we do not want the girls', I mean, I've heard executives say this, you know, not [where I am] but at other places, saying like, 'We do not want girls watching this show."

SMITH: "WHY? That's 51% of the population."

DINI: "They. Do. Not. Buy. Toys. The girls buy different toys. The girls may watch the show—"

SMITH: "So you can sell them T-shirts if they don't—A: I disagree, I think girls buy toys as well, I mean not as many as f***ing boys do, but, B: sell them something else, man! Don't be lazy and be like, 'well I can't sell a girl a toy.' Sell 'em a T-shirt, man, sell them f***ing umbrella with the f***ing character on it, something like that. But if it's not a toy, there's something else you could sell 'em! Like, just because you can't figure out your job, don't kill chances of, like, something that's gonna reach an audi—that's just so self-defeating, when people go, like… these are the same ****ers who go, like, 'Oh, girls don't read comics, girls aren't into comics.' It's all self-fulfilling prophecies. They just make it that way, by going like, 'I can't sell 'em a toy, what's the point?'

DINI: "That's the thing, you know I hate being Mr. Sour Grapes here, but I'll just lay it on the line: that's the thing that got us cancelled on Tower Prep, honest-to-God was, like, 'we need boys, but we need girls right there, right one step behind the boys'—this is the network talking—'one step behind the boys, not as smart as the boys, not as interesting as the boys, but right there.' And then we began writing stories that got into the two girls' back stories, and they were really interesting. And suddenly we had families and girls watching, and girls really became a big part of our audience, in sort of like they picked up that Harry Potter type of serialized way, which is what The Batman and [indistinct]'s really gonna kill. But, the Cartoon Network was saying, 'F***, no, we want the boys' action, it's boys' action, this goofy boy humor we've gotta get that in there. And we can't—' and I'd say, but look at the numbers, we've got parents watching, with the families, and then when you break it down—'Yeah, but the—so many—we've got too many girls. We need more boys.'"

SMITH: "That's heart-breaking."

DINI: "And then that's why they cancelled us, and they put on a show called Level Up, which is, you know, goofy nerds fighting CG monsters. It's like, 'We don't want the girls because the girls won't buy toys.' We had a whole… we had a whole, a merchandise line for Tower Prep that they s***canned before it ever got off the launching pad, because it's like, 'Boys, boys, boys. Boys buy the little spinny tops, they but the action figures, girls buy princesses, we're not selling princesses.'"

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So what about a variant cover sexualiziling a character? No man complains about yaoi books.

It's a genre. They don't complain about yuri, harem and hentai either. What's your point? Was spider woman supposed to be a a porn comic?

 

[MAN OF SIN]

What can I say - that fandom is barely active to say much at all. But I have seen similar complaints before.

But there is pretty much no debate that Bleach is filled with strong female characters.

Did you just compare Naruto to the whole comic industry? And completely ignored the issue of sexual objectification...

Well you did by saying "Nor that comic industry does it that much better".

It's a genre. They don't complain about yuri, harem and hentai either. What's your point?

Uh, they often do complain about that stuff. For example: There is the criticism that Harley and Ivy's relationship in the Harely Quinn comic is just to pander to straight guys(which the comic is pretty much about).

Was spider woman supposed to be a a porn comic?

That wasn't the true cover of the comic you know...Besides Jessica Drew always had a big juicy ass(Google Spiderwoman butt) and *** appeal is literally one of her superpowers.

 

[Defence]

Actually the exact same and more can be said about Sakura.

Sakura played a much larger and more influential role in Naruto than Bulma in DBZ.

But of course you've got some very strong Anti-Sakura goggles there that don't allow you to see the obvious. :lol

Sorry but that's an absolute bs. Bulma drove the plot from the start. She found goku and enouraged him to leave. Globe trotting around the world to find the dragon balls was her idea, with her dragon radar. Through her goku learnt the world. And it's not even just DB. Raditz scouter, removing the bomb from 16, inventing a time machine that literally save dbz verse, her space ships...


I can't belive I'm arguing this even. But that statement was too crazy to ignore. Defend your fav by all means but avoid the sublimely wft statements

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Sorry but that's an absolute bs. Bulma drove the plot from the start. She found goku and enouraged him to leave. Globe trotting around the world to find the dragon balls was her idea, with her dragon radar. Through her goku learnt the world. And it's not even just DB. Raditz scouter, removing the bomb from 16, inventing a time machine that literally save dbz verse, her space ships...


I can't belive I'm arguing this even. But that statement was too crazy to ignore. Defend your fav by all means but avoid the sublimely wft statements

She is also one of the reasons why Vegeta turned a new leaf.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Sorry but that's an absolute bs. Bulma drove the plot from the start. She found goku and enouraged him to leave. Globe trotting around the world to find the dragon balls was her idea, with her dragon radar. Through her goku learnt the world. And it's not even just DB. Raditz scouter, removing the bomb from 16, inventing a time machine that literally save dbz verse, her space ships...


I can't belive I'm arguing this even. But that statement was too crazy to ignore. Defend your fav by all means but avoid the sublimely wft statements

Pretty much this.

 

[WalksInShadows]

the female characters in FMA weren't super important to the plot or very interesting, despite the writer being a woman. Every writer doesn't have a talent for developing female characters very well. It hardly makes them sexist. If Kishimoto was sexist, then there wouldn't be female ninja characters period, nor would the strongest character in the story be a woman.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Thank god the series is now over. No more bad females. No more Kishi.