Indra and Ashura differ from their transmigrates

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Indra's not going to teach Ashura ninjustu just to fight to the death.

Ashura has to use everything he has in order to stop his brother.
I mean, who's to say he couldn't have taught him before the dispute?

It just doesn't add up to me. If Indra is a lone wolf and he created ninjutsu, then how did every other person learn it as well?
 

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I mean, who's to say he couldn't have taught him before the dispute?

It just doesn't add up to me. If Indra is a lone wolf and he created ninjutsu, then how did every other person learn it as well?

Indra was alone and he did everything alone.

Ashura didn't blossom immediately, it took time and that's more time then Indra had to teach his brother anything.
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The concept of ninjustus is a lot more recent then you think it is in terms of Narutoverse.

The inventor and the Researcher, it's not too far ahead of the hero (naruto) timeline.

The only person other than Indra that can use ninjustu is Kaguya, Black zetsu, and possibly Hagoromoo/Haruma.

Ninjustu wasn't purposed to be taught, it was purposed for war.


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I mean, who's to say he couldn't have taught him before the dispute?

It just doesn't add up to me. If Indra is a lone wolf and he created ninjutsu, then how did every other person learn it as well?

Indra was alone and he did everything alone.

Ashura didn't blossom immediately, it took time and that's more time then Indra had to teach his brother anything.
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The concept of ninjustus is a lot more recent then you think it is in terms of Narutoverse.

The inventor and the Researcher, it's not too far ahead of the hero (naruto) timeline.

The only person other than Indra that can use ninjustu is Kaguya, Black zetsu, and possibly Hagoromoo/Haruma.

Ninjustu wasn't purposed to be taught, it was purposed for war.


On the subject of Indra creating Ninjutsu....This is not actually true. Hagoromo taught both of them Ninshu. It was others who took it's use and turned it into Ninjutsu. Indra just followed as did Ashura at some point. But both were originally taught Ninshu. Not sure if the databook was misinterpreted or if it is actually true as to Indra being the creator of Ninjutsu though. However if that is indeed what the databook says then so be it.

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On the subject of Indra creating Ninjutsu....This is not actually true. Hagoromo taught both of them Ninshu. It was others who took it's use and turned it into Ninjutsu. Indra just followed as did Ashura at some point. But both were originally taught Ninshu. Not sure if the databook was misinterpreted or if it is actually true as to Indra being the creator of Ninjutsu though. However if that is indeed what the databook says then so be it.

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Databook said Indra created ninjustus, so you can't argue that he can't.

Both of them were taught ninshuu no doubt, but that scan doesn't prove "others" creating ninjustu and Ashura following "others," to use ninjustu. That's just a speculation.

People eventually were able to use ninjustus, but non of them were able to before the creator.
 

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Mentality :

Indra = Itachi's genius, Madara's Will and Sasuke's instinct

Ashura = Naruto's optimism and Hashirama's perseverance


Power :

Indra = Itachi's genjutsu + Sasuke's ninjutsu + Madara's chakra prowess + Rikudou chakra

Ashura = Naruto's chakra control + Hashirama's chakra + 5 elements + TSB

P.S : Ashura and Indra were directly related to Hagormo so had power levels way beyond their transmigrants, Indra had Senjutsu chakra whilst Ashura had the JuubiJin's body.
 
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It bothers me that till this day people still think Hagoromo gave Asura some type of power.

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Come on :lol
 

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It bothers me that till this day people still think Hagoromo gave Asura some type of power.

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Come on :lol

True but it's also possible that both of them got additional power before/after Hago's death with Ashura's being the Yang seal given to him by the Sage and Indra's being something he acquired on his own.
 

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True but it's also possible that both of them got additional power before/after Hago's death with Ashura's being the Yang seal given to him by the Sage and Indra's being something he acquired on his own.

I dunno man. I mean Asura was stated to have trained harshly to even reach the level Indra did, and Hagoromo said he made the mistake of leaving things to one of his children.

If Asura had a power up from Hagoromo, Indra would of died that day. But there's no real proof of the winner, but I can assume it ended in both of them dying. Plus I don't think Hagoromo died when they fought, he probably died sometime afterwards.
 

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It bothers me that till this day people still think Hagoromo gave Asura some type of power.

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Come on :lol

I think you and I are thinking of a different power. Read my post with Pumpkin Ninja.
Hagoromoo said that he left one with the power last time, but this time he will give both naruto and sasuke the power.

That power is the power of the Seals

It's not the first time a yang seal holder ended up getting both seals, Haruma who was a yin seal holder rightfully gave up his to his older brother Hagoromoo to succeed
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And how else is Ashura going to keep up with Indra after the fact he created ninjustu?
The yin/yang seals will work perfectly for him to counter.
 
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