[VS] Ei vs Minato

[Curse Mark]

Based from what foot speed? Absolutely nothing. Rasengans are tanked neg difficulty. He tanked Jugo blast without any damage at that was strong enough to completely evaporate pillars.[

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] Any Rasengan Minato does is tanked low no difficulty. Once Minato hits him with a Rasengan he gets grabbed like this[

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] unlike Sasuke Minato won't have a Susanoo to protect his fall so he gets killed.​

He never reacted to v2 Ei for one and if it wasn't for FTG he would have lost his head. He only has SM for 2mins which isn't enough time to put down Ei and even with SM he still lacks fire power so it's irrelevant. Madara was Edo for 1. We already saw what happened to Jugo after trying to block a punch from Ei he got a hole in his chest and arm. Chidori involves piercing force Rasengan is blunt so that's a weak comparison.​

Praises are irrelevant Hashirama praised Itachi but he'd unholy stomp the man.​

lol bruh dont even try and say he tanked that blast.

 

[Unorthodox]

Your post style suggests otherwise. Luckyman has discussed this match up too many times, he wouldn't make a thread about it. Your swag is far below his too. I highly doubt this is LuckyMan's account.

Boy your a lame stop

OT - I hate scenarios so ill just say Minardo wins

 

[Lord Tywin]

This guy says Minato is on par with v2 Ay in speed, while canon showed that Minato needs FTG to counter Ay's full speed.

 

[LuckyMan]

Boy your a lame stop

OT - I hate scenarios so ill just say Minardo wins

Shut yo simp ass up boy. Yo ass still wear Shaqs.

 

[EZQ]

Base Minato can react to Ay without any problem & SM Minato has better reflexes, I wonder is it possible for Minato to kill Ay with a counterattack? I mean when Ay charges at him with full speed he can outmaneuver & one shot him. (Unless Ay can tank SM enhanced attacks which I highly doubt it)

Yes Minato can react to v2 Ay's speed, but from there to actully landing a hit without FTG on the man who dodged Amaterasu it's hard. I don't think Minato can perform that.

 

[Unorthodox]

Shut yo simp ass up boy. Yo ass still wear Shaqs.

Did you just say simp? and what are shaqs Lmao.

 

[KidGamer65]

First scenario: Raikage (only v1) vs Hokage (no ftg)
Second scenario: Raiakge vs sage Minato (no FTG, sage chakra runs out after 2 mins)
Third Scenario: Killer Bee is added. base only. But can use tentacles. No restrictions to Minato or Raikage

Minato low-mid diffs S1. Rasengan twice or more=Raikage's death. Not to mention Raikage can't even outspeed Minato here.

Minato mid diffs scenario 2. SM Minato easily reacts to V2 Ay since Base Minato is already capable of doing so physically. Ay eats a Senpo Rasengan and dies in a flash.

Minato stomps S3. He already made Ay look like a fool w/ Hirasihin alone. Base Killer B can't stand against Minato either.

 

[EZQ]

Minato low-mid diffs S1. Rasengan twice or more=Raikage's death. Not to mention Raikage can't even outspeed Minato here.

Minato mid diffs scenario 2. SM Minato easily reacts to V2 Ay since Base Minato is already capable of doing so physically. Ay eats a Senpo Rasengan and dies in a flash.

Minato stomps S3. He already made Ay look like a fool w/ Hirasihin alone. Base Killer B can't stand against Minato either.

Disagree with the bold. Minato's sunshin is not enough to outmanouver against v2 Ay's. Being able to react to him =/= beeing physycally able to dodge or counter it without ftg.

 

[KidGamer65]

Disagree with the bold. Minato's sunshin is not enough to outmanouver against v2 Ay's. Being able to react to him =/= beeing physycally able to dodge or counter it without ftg.

Except:

1. He doesn't need to be faster to counter. (See 3rd Raikage vs. the slower SM Naruto)
2. Never mentioned Shunshin.
3. He already physically reacted to V2 Ay w/o SM's enhanced reflexes and precognitive sensing.

 

[EZQ]

Except:

1. He doesn't need to be faster to counter. (See 3rd Raikage vs. the slower SM Naruto)
2. Never mentioned Shunshin.
3. He already physically reacted to V2 Ay w/o SM's enhanced reflexes and precognitive sensing.

My point is:

1-Minato might have the brain reactions to react to V2. But nothing shows he has the striking speed and the body speed to actually make a counter attack to a v2 speed which is >>> v1 3rd raikage's

2-.

3- He mentally reacted and was able to activate FTG. He doesn't have the body speed to move or counter attack against V2 Ay. SM enhaces his reflexes, it won't give him the ability to strike faster

 

[Gold Lightning]

Give me 1 since you seem to have a collection. He dodged it? When was this ever stated? Pretty sure Cee was counting ftg along with Minato's speed just like they always have in the Manga. How his Minato going to summon a toad while in a med air thrust? Not when Ei is strong enough to hold his ground. Rasengan still isn't enough to put Ei down. Boss summonings gets there legs or blitzed off just like this[

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Just 1...right

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. Intercepting kuramas

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(look how close kuramas claw is to kushina, which Minato had to swoop in to gather and still had speed to evade) and getting kushina to safety way, not to mention the distance he covered in that mere instant to get atop of that cliff and tree. The same kurama claw that sm Naruto couldn't evade, despite all his sensory prowess and perception

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(Naruto confirms how fast an attack it is, but is too slow to react, and this is half kurama, not even full sized like the one against Minato). Ay doesn't even have a speed feat that compares to the distance Minato covered here.
Already told you how he summons the toads, stop ignoring. If liger bomb is to be used, just like against sasuke, the arms are still free. So summoning a toad beneath him is doable and will crush Ay. Or since his hands are free, clones can be made to attack Ay. And since Minato can perform seals with a single

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, then he really doesn't have to worry, not that Ay is grabbing him anyway because the force of a rasengan will knock him back. Even if Ay withstands it, it will still move him.
Cee said minatos reaction speed and nerve transmissions (you know what nerve transmissions are right?) are on par with the raikages (while Raikage was in Raiton mode). The databook reiterates this and says raikages rcm is "praised"(referring to Cee) to be on par with the yellow flash. Which means their physical prowess in speed is comparable. Raikage cannot be compared to FTG, he is inferior to that. Stop talking out of your ass. Reaction speed and nerve transmissions have nothing to do with FTG.

Ei said Minato reacted to his fastest punch which at the time was in his v1 form. Let's say he was in v2 that doesn't change the fact that Minato needed ftg to dodge the attack. His running speed nor evading speed without ftg isn't that's the point im trying to make here. That was v1 Ei and piercing force shits on blunt force so using that comparison is terrible. Gamabunta knife cut through Manda's skin while Deidara c0 blast couldn't vaporize Manda skin. Simply because Piercing force>Blunt. Ummm no[

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] Minato fight with Juubi Jin obito lasted quite a while well over a couple of mins. His fight with Obito was a rush fight as Obito was trying to go for the quick kill.​

XD, pls stop. His fastest punch was v2. That's why he said he tested Naruto, to see if he could react to the same speed. Ay even says you're are the second to dodge this full speed punch. You even see Ays

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spiking up before he attacks Minato, gtfo.
Minato needed FTG to counter attack, not dodge. He threw his kunai above his head without Ay even noticing. He can physically and mentally anticipate and react to raikages speed. If minatos hand speed is faster than his v2, then his foot speed is at least on par with rcm, just like the db says.
Rasengan is a penetrating force as well as destructive force. Just not as penetrating as chidori. But it does more damage than inside than a chidori does. Sasuke said chidori could only stalemates with Narutos small base chidori at the samurai bridge. Minatos basketball rasengan is not getting tanked multiple times. A few hits will put Ay down, the toll will accumulate, the damage done internally will take effect. If you can't understand that, then don't bother replying with your bs.

Bunta sword didn't kill Madara. C0, so thanks for supporting my point even further. Damage rasengan will do is far greater than what the chidori will do to rcm. Did you actually just try and use juubi Jin Obito to prove your point :lol. Juubi Jins are godly forces, why do you just blurt out rubbish all the time. Every Hokage combined cannot defeat juubito, so be quiet. I knew you would make an excuse for the Obito fight, it lasted minutes, I don't care for your excuses, that doesn't change the time.

- Sm Naruto reacted to and countered v1 3rd Raikage. Base Minato reacted to and countered v2 Raiakge
- Sm Naruto could not evade half size kurama strike. Base blitzes past 100% kurama strike untouched.
- Give Minato that same sensory prowess in addition to his speed and reactions, and dodging Ay is child's play. He reacted and to everything Ay has with ease. It's just common sense

Hashirama- ''He was a better Shinobi than me''​

It's like you don't understand the most simplest parts of the manga, did you even read it? Being a better shinobi that someone has nothing to do with strength at all. It means as a ninja itself, itachi understands and carries out the way of the ninja better than Hashirama. It means to endure, to sacrifice. I shouldn't have to go into detail here. Ay says to Naruto that they fought several times and came to believe Minato wouldn't be surpassed, you crap Hashirama comparison is not the same. Bee hearing the fourth Hokage trembles around every inch of his body. Obviously the kumo bros know they how powerful he was. It actually seems like you think Raiakge>Minato, scenarios aside. That's how I know you didn't read the manga.

 

[Kami No Shunshin]

Thanks for al your contributions, keep it up.

This thread has inspired me to make another.

 

[Great Master Minato]

My point is:

1-Minato might have the brain reactions to react to V2. But nothing shows he has the striking speed and the body speed to actually make a counter attack to a v2 speed which is >>> v1 3rd raikage's

2-.

3- He mentally reacted and was able to activate FTG. He doesn't have the body speed to move or counter attack against V2 Ay. SM enhaces his reflexes, it won't give him the ability to strike faster

Base Minato was able to react to Ay both mentally & physically...remember he flicked a Kunai to Ay's blind spot without him noticing.

If Base Minato is fast enough to move his hand before Ay hit him then SM Minato would most definitely outmaneuver Ay in CQC.

 

[KidGamer65]

My point is:

1-Minato might have the brain reactions to react to V2. But nothing shows he has the striking speed and the body speed to actually make a counter attack to a v2 speed which is >>> v1 3rd raikage's

2-.

3- He mentally reacted and was able to activate FTG. He doesn't have the body speed to move or counter attack against V2 Ay. SM enhaces his reflexes, it won't give him the ability to strike faster

Which is false since he already physically reacted. As I've stated twice.

-Kunai in his hand.

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-Then he throws Kunai above Ay's head and teleports. He already physically reacted to Ay, so w/ Sage Mode he easily accomplishes what Naruto did. Or he simply blocks Ay's attack and then counters with a Rasengan.

Not to mention the bold literally makes zero sense. Sage Mode increases speed and reflexes. If your reflexes increase you will react sooner than you normally do. Fact. A speed boost also means that you move faster as well. What you are saying is tantamount to me saying that Sasuke doesn't react faster w/ Sharingan than he does w/o it, and Manga has shown that to be false.

 

[Kami No Shunshin]

Which is false since he already physically reacted. As I've stated twice.

-Kunai in his hand.

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-Then he throws Kunai above Ay's head and teleports. He already physically reacted to Ay, so w/ Sage Mode he easily accomplishes what Naruto did. Or he simply blocks Ay's attack and then counters with a Rasengan.

Not to mention the bold literally makes zero sense. Sage Mode increases speed and reflexes. If your reflexes increase you will react sooner than you normally do. Fact. A speed boost also means that you move faster as well. What you are saying is tantamount to me saying that Sasuke doesn't react faster w/ Sharingan than he does w/o it, and Manga has shown that to be false.

Can I ask your opinion on Rasengans vs Ei?

 

[Kami No Shunshin]

So who here actually believes rasengan is effective against Raikage? Thoughts?

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

What's he gonna do? Rasengan Ei to death?

The answer is yes, yes he will. It's gonna take a couple but he won't have any problem at all landing them so eventually he wins. Think about destroying an armored tank with a 9mm. Sure it will take some time, but the tank won't last forever.

 

[LuckyMan]

So who here actually believes rasengan is effective against Raikage? Thoughts?

Minatos basic Rasengans is 3x the size of Jiraiya/Narutos. His Rasengan is stronger than the Chidori that gave Ay a cut. Repeatedly slamming pumpkin sized Rasengans into him will defeat him.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Ay ain't tanking this $hit. He gone be walking funny after one of these:

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A couple more and he ain't getting up.

 

[kiiro]

Minato win the 3.

Minato speed without Shunshin has the speed of Naruto v1 who evaded Ei's punch. So Minato will do the same. And with shunshin it will be blitz

Second Versus.

If he begins with SM then it will be a combat of taijutsu of one Minato.

Third Verus.

Minato can take Bee's biju the same way he took out his biju. The Bee Dies.