Speed Misconception!

[DHOH]

Awful response Naruto is in RSM doesnt mean hes using his speed thats a low way to judge it. And we all know naruto RSM physical strenght is better idk why go there. And his taijutsu was better? Why cuz he landed hits? Even though naruto was setting and covering him with attacks like grabbing momo while sasuke strikes? We all know Frog kata > sasukes taijutsu so lets not even go there as to say he did good in taijutsu as if he fought him alone when he got destroyed by kinshiki. We all saw what happened when naruto isnt fighting along side him.

Sasuke is a BEAST

But do not try to use movie scenes to justify sasuke in areas manga has clearly shown where they excel in their respective areas.

Not using his speed? Lol, so RSM Naruto was jogging? Lol. No I do know anything about Naruto's physical strength being better.. Movie showed Sasuke being just as strong.. Yes his Taijutsu was better, Sasuke landed twice the hits and his Taijutsu was more fluent and combos were much better. Frog kata is a joke. It can't beat anyone with decent durability or defense. Destroyed by kinshiki? Isn't Sasuke the reason he's missin a piece of his horn and the reason he was captured?

Movie is CANNON material, you should try not to use stuff that happen in the manga 15 years ago to justify there skills.. Obviously Sasuke improved greatly.. Proof is in Gadien and the movie.. Fact is Sasuke excels in every area..

 

[Blackzoro]

Not using his speed? Lol, so RSM Naruto was jogging? Lol. No I do know anything about Naruto's physical strength being better.. Movie showed Sasuke being just as strong.. Yes his Taijutsu was better, Sasuke landed twice the hits and his Taijutsu was more fluent and combos were much better. Frog kata is a joke. It can't beat anyone with decent durability or defense. Destroyed by kinshiki? Isn't Sasuke the reason he's missin a piece of his horn and the reason he was captured?

Movie is CANNON material, you should try not to use stuff that happen in the manga 15 years ago to justify there skills.. Obviously Sasuke improved greatly.. Proof is in Gadien and the movie.. Fact is Sasuke excels in every area..

Lol sarcasm. Who said he was jogging i meant that wasnt his shunshin speed that was foot speed. So u saying RSM strenght = sasuke physical strenght? And maybe u need to rewatch the clip he was only landing hits when naruto was helping him and fighting along side him as soon as naruto got taken down sasuke got knocked unconcious.

Did u just say frog kata is a joke? That sht body slammed kurama so kurama isnt durable? And shattered pains rods?
And lol missing a piece of horn was that all u were paying attention to? What about how he was physically pushing sasuke and tossing him around? I dont think we watched the same video.

Now thats just a dum response. Stuff that happened in the manga still applies it doesnt just become irrelevant. So sasuke excels in every area meaning he has the same strenght as RSM and same speed basically he has everything right? Oh da sasuke

 

[DHOH]

Lol sarcasm. Who said he was jogging i meant that wasnt his shunshin speed that was foot speed. So u saying RSM strenght = sasuke physical strenght? And maybe u need to rewatch the clip he was only landing hits when naruto was helping him and fighting along side him as soon as naruto got taken down sasuke got knocked unconcious.

Did u just say frog kata is a joke? That sht body slammed kurama so kurama isnt durable? And shattered pains rods?
And lol missing a piece of horn was that all u were paying attention to? What about how he was physically pushing sasuke and tossing him around? I dont think we watched the same video.

Now thats just a dum response. Stuff that happened in the manga still applies it doesnt just become irrelevant. So sasuke excels in every area meaning he has the same strenght as RSM and same speed basically he has everything right? Oh da sasuke

Sasuke wasn't using Shunshin so I don't understand your point. I'm saying Sasuke physical strength was put displayed on par with Naruto in the movie.. If that's the case why did Sasuke land twice as many hits? By your logic they would have ended up landing the same about of hits.. What does Sasuke being knocked unconscious got to do with his Taijutsu being better.. I didn't Sasy Sasuke could win by himself with Taijutsu alone.

Yes frog kata is a joke. It defeated a dead baby that had no defense, armor or durability.. Your getting frog kata mixed up with sage mode enhancements. Sasuke came out unharmed, kinshiki ended missing a piece of his horn.. Yes he was physically stronger than Sasuke, but Sasuke was the cause of his demise.

When characters proved that they have improved greatly in the last fifteen years, yes in makes the past stuff irrelevant. Sasuke was protrayed to match Naruto's RSM in strength and speed. He wasn't capable of that in the past.. Yes Sasuke basically has everything.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I dont understand, why they are moving like roller coaster rail there? You can see roller coaster like loops there. Why not moving straight?

The animation is overdoing

 

[TrollingSage]

Sasuke teleported Naruto with ameno against kaguya though, it wasn't body flicker.

Hahaha. Keep telling yourself that fanboi. I reckon I'll help you sleep better at night

 

[take it easy]

One fact that Sasuke couldnt blitz Naruto even with s/t and distraction combo should tell you who is fastest between them.

 

[Zee U]

Only trolls thought it was Sunshin. Still, Sasuke was keeping up with RKSM Naruto in body speed, which means he improved greatly.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Sasuke failed with ameno thanks to the increased gravity. :| When u are struggling under intense gravity u tend not to move as fast.

Kaguya was the one restricted by Gravity
Sasuke had the advantage cause she was under him
He got dodged when she changed dimension to remove gravity
Sasuke missed in regular gravity and wouldve made it had kaguya not switched
The same dimension in which Kaguya changed to
Naruto hit her in it
No excuses

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Lol sarcasm. Who said he was jogging i meant that wasnt his shunshin speed that was foot speed. So u saying RSM strenght = sasuke physical strenght? And maybe u need to rewatch the clip he was only landing hits when naruto was helping him and fighting along side him as soon as naruto got taken down sasuke got knocked unconcious.

Did u just say frog kata is a joke? That sht body slammed kurama so kurama isnt durable? And shattered pains rods?
And lol missing a piece of horn was that all u were paying attention to? What about how he was physically pushing sasuke and tossing him around? I dont think we watched the same video.

Now thats just a dum response. Stuff that happened in the manga still applies it doesnt just become irrelevant. So sasuke excels in every area meaning he has the same strenght as RSM and same speed basically he has everything right? Oh da sasuke

He downplays naruto and wanks sasuke
Typical fanboy
Naruto wasn't even using the full extent of his strength and landed Heavier hits

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Hahaha. Keep telling yourself that fanboi. I reckon I'll help you sleep better at night

Can't deny the sfx aka kishi's sfx.

You're the fanboi here if you think Naruto can blitz kaguya just like that when she could easily dodge both him and Sasuke from point blank

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Unless you know something that explains why the teleportation sfx is there other than well....teleportation.

Anyway The anime is going to catch up so we'll see who's right.

 

[KesOnFire]

Kaguya was the one restricted by Gravity
Sasuke had the advantage cause she was under him
He got dodged when she changed dimension to remove gravity
Sasuke missed in regular gravity and wouldve made it had kaguya not switched
The same dimension in which Kaguya changed to
Naruto hit her in it
No excuses

Exactly she switched dimensions to get away. So gravity wasn't stopping sasuke lol

Naruto's shunshin is unrivaled =D
Naruto is faster

 

[UnknownJin]

dude Sasuke > Naruto forever ever since part 1 , i know u cant accept that fact thats why ur actually trying to give ur self some support so u can sleep better...but still Sasuke>Naruto HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH U FAIL *****!

 

[Blackzoro]

Sasuke wasn't using Shunshin so I don't understand your point. I'm saying Sasuke physical strength was put displayed on par with Naruto in the movie.. If that's the case why did Sasuke land twice as many hits? By your logic they would have ended up landing the same about of hits.. What does Sasuke being knocked unconscious got to do with his Taijutsu being better.. I didn't Sasy Sasuke could win by himself with Taijutsu alone.

Yes frog kata is a joke. It defeated a dead baby that had no defense, armor or durability.. Your getting frog kata mixed up with sage mode enhancements. Sasuke came out unharmed, kinshiki ended missing a piece of his horn.. Yes he was physically stronger than Sasuke, but Sasuke was the cause of his demise.

When characters proved that they have improved greatly in the last fifteen years, yes in makes the past stuff irrelevant. Sasuke was protrayed to match Naruto's RSM in strength and speed. He wasn't capable of that in the past.. Yes Sasuke basically has everything.

Sasuke used shunshin to blitz momo do u know what shunshin is? I know his physical strenght was displayed on par with naruto in the movie my question how tf is that possible when naruto is in RSM sasuke physical strenght isnt even close in SM. It was nerf again to make them equal. And Frog kata is used with SM enchancement. Which idk why naruto isnt using either. Your idea of Frog kata being a joke is your opinion im not arguing with you about it cuz i know for a fact you know the truth. And i dont even want to get into sasuke vs kinshiki if u think sasuke won that fight then idk why i should bother arguing.

And idk what makes you even think that was RSM strenght that sht is completely off his strenght should be greater. Thats like saying Lee strenght would also be RSM strenght since we know how physically strong he was right now he probably stronger. I honestly dont even know what kishi is on but whatever at least hes gonna stop with the manga

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Yes Naruto's Shunshin is faster than Sasuke's mainly due to him blitzing a God. Dem facts, nice Michael.

 

[King Of Pop]

Sasuke used shunshin to blitz momo do u know what shunshin is? I know his physical strenght was displayed on par with naruto in the movie my question how tf is that possible when naruto is in RSM sasuke physical strenght isnt even close in SM. It was nerf again to make them equal. And Frog kata is used with SM enchancement. Which idk why naruto isnt using either. Your idea of Frog kata being a joke is your opinion im not arguing with you about it cuz i know for a fact you know the truth. And i dont even want to get into sasuke vs kinshiki if u think sasuke won that fight then idk why i should bother arguing.

And idk what makes you even think that was RSM strenght that sht is completely off his strenght should be greater. Thats like saying Lee strenght would also be RSM strenght since we know how physically strong he was right now he probably stronger. I honestly dont even know what kishi is on but whatever at least hes gonna stop with the manga

this fanboy. all i read here was excuses. if sasuke is portrayed to keep up physically with rsm naruto then it simply means he got stronger, period. your post is basically you not wanting to believe sasuke can match naruto in those areas so you have to make all bunch of excuses and scream nerf just so you can deny reality. hallmarks of a hardcore fanboy

 

[Blackzoro]

this fanboy. all i read here was excuses. if sasuke is portrayed to keep up physically with rsm naruto then it simply means he got stronger, period. your post is basically you not wanting to believe sasuke can match naruto in those areas so you have to make all bunch of excuses and scream nerf just so you can deny reality. hallmarks of a hardcore fanboy

Are u dum narutos has sage body and sasuke has sage visual powers. Giving sasuke physical body feats would mean he also has sage body. Which defies the idea of them having sage body and sage visual powers. But im not surprised since a sasuke fan like you wished sasuke had everything. Not to mention hes not even shown using frog kata hes using normal taijutsu. I guess u probably not informed that he was weakened and had chakra extracted out of him. By your logic rock lee can probably be as strong as rsm since he is physically strong with his ferocious fist taijutsu and now he probably gotten stronger since he trains alot.

 

[King Of Pop]

=Blackzoro;19648355]Are u dum narutos has sage body and sasuke has sage visual powers.

nope am not. and yes you are correct.

Giving sasuke physical body feats would mean he also has sage body.

except no one is giving him non existent feats, he has shown to have those feats simple, so you have to accept it. how can you try and deny what is shown just because you dont think he shuld have them? da fuk. sasuke powers being mostly doujutsu based now means he shuldnt be capable body wise? what a joke. like i said what you think should be possible is irrelevant to what was depicted and shown.

Which defies the idea of them having sage body and sage visual powers.

all that means is that their powers generally are based on the body and doujutsu respectively. it doesnt mean they cant excel in the opposite direction at least it doesnt apply to sasuke who has shown improvements in other areas aside his eyes. his always been well rounded afterall

But im not surprised since a sasuke fan like you wished sasuke had everything.

no i dont. but if see him show a feat then i am going to acknowledge it, very simple. but i see you are being a hypocrite. i didnt see you whining when the op made a thread about naruto being able to make a better ct than sasuke(as retarded as that was) despite it being doujutsu based and naruto doesnt have it.

Not to mention hes not even shown using frog kata.

irrelevant. doesnt take away anything

I guess u probably not informed that he was weakened and had chakra extracted out of him.

and sasuke just dimension shifted(taking 8 pple along) which he stated takes a lot of chakra so he himself wasnt at full capacity, so its the same with him but of course you wont remember that

By your logic rock lee can probably be as strong as rsm since he was physically strong and now he probably gotten stronger since he trains alot

retard, last i checked rock lee doesnt have rikudou chakra to buff him up, first fail. nor is he able to improve as fast as sasuke normally. sasuke gained the same body speed as him without weights in a month, something that took lee years, that alone shits on your failed comparison.

 

[TrollingSage]

Can't deny the sfx aka kishi's sfx.

You're the fanboi here if you think Naruto can blitz kaguya just like that when she could easily dodge both him and Sasuke from point blank

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Unless you know something that explains why the teleportation sfx is there other than well....teleportation.

Anyway The anime is going to catch up so we'll see who's right.

LOL this sfx shit again. It's already been argued to death. It has already been proven that Kishi also uses it for really fast movements.
And to answer your question as to why Naruto blitzed Kaguya when she countered him before see my earlier post

I like how everyone assumes speedsters use their max speed all the time.

 

[DHOH]

He downplays naruto and wanks sasuke
Typical fanboy
Naruto wasn't even using the full extent of his strength and landed Heavier hits

I'm sure you can't prove any of this so I want ask you lol

 

[Blackzoro]

nope am not. and yes you are correct.


except no one is giving him non existent feats, he has shown to have those feats simple, so you have to accept it. how can you try and deny what is shown just because you dont think he shuld have them? da fuk. sasuke powers being mostly doujutsu based now means he shuldnt be capable body wise? what a joke. like i said what you think should be possible is irrelevant to what was depicted and shown.


all that means is that their powers generally are based on the body and doujutsu respectively. it doesnt mean they cant excel in the opposite direction at least it doesnt apply to sasuke who has shown improvements in other areas aside his eyes. his always been well rounded afterall



no i dont. but if see him show a feat then i am going to acknowledge it, very simple. but i see you are being a hypocrite. i didnt see you whining when the op made a thread about naruto being able to make a better ct than sasuke(as retarded as that was) despite it being doujutsu based and naruto doesnt have it.


irrelevant. doesnt take away anything


and sasuke just dimension shifted(taking 8 pple along) which he stated takes a lot of chakra so he himself wasnt at full capacity, so its the same with him but of course you wont remember that


retard, last i checked rock lee doesnt have rikudou chakra to buff him up, first fail. nor is he able to improve as fast as sasuke normally. sasuke gained the same body speed as him without weights in a month, something that took lee years, that alone shits on your failed comparison.

Did u just say dimension shifted? U do know that he opens a portal to another dimension that its not the same as kaguya shifting the entire place. And you're comparing naruto who took that massive tail beast bomb straight on and almost had kyuubi extracted out of him to sasuke who lost chakra from opening a portal? And so let me guess this straight you're saying sasuke is as strong as RSM physically despite not being able physically fight equal against kinshiki? And Frog kata is irrelevant? You do know what Frog kata is right? If u do then u should know if he was using it in that taijutsu battle he wouldve destroyed momoshiki by himself right?