[VS] Bee vs Jin Gaara

[EZQ]

He's not strong enough to move his body an inch let alone like that. Hachibi does not do anything with his strength that he normally can't, all he does is keep spinning and build up tremendous momentum. But look at it this way. SM Madara has immense strength, a SM user can carry something far heavier then them i.e. Naruto carried Kurama/rhino and throw them distances away. Bee can carry things his own size and send them away. That means SM Madara is FAR stronger relative to his own body weight. So if he couldn't move his legs despite him having tremendous amounts of strength in it, Hachibi won't be moving his entire lower/upper body. I would like you to look at the scan again and see how many of those sand bullets didn't even hit Madara's body

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. And that was NON-perfect Jin Gaara. Assume it's perfect Jin Gaara and he can easily do enough to engulf Hachibi's entire body. So you will need to prove Hachibi can move anything in his body apart from his tails and rear, which are not enough to create the momentum he needs to spin like that.

I know i meant Bee can spin before they enter his body, since once they enter he's done. If they're done from long range Bee has time to react and spin them away, like neji's rotation.

Although I would totally agree with you that this would shit on Shukaku since the force it applies would demolish any shield he can put up, it is unfortunate for you that Kishi trolled this jutsu and allowed Karin to dodge it after it was already finished prepping.

I think Bee just fired it at suigetsu. Bee didn't bother to change targets since suigetsu was just standing steady in front of him so he decided to took him out. A laser beam like that could be redirected like this if the target moves:

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Bee could just move his head and the beam just moves too. He didn't do it because he wanted to take suigetsu i guess

 

[Curse Mark]

I agree with this

OT: If gaara can use TBB he takes this.

Sand bullets paralization gets countered with this:

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The force should be enough to repel them.

If they get fired off and he tried to counter with that, it'd hit him while his tentacles are still wrapped around him.

Please explain why Bijuudama barrage is only viable to Hachibi and Kurama?​

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[Apêx1]

I know i meant Bee can spin before they enter his body, since once they enter he's done. If they're done from long range Bee has time to react and spin them away, like neji's rotation.

I see what you mean now. It wouldn't work though, because to deflect something by spinning you have to be solid. It's like spinning a sponge, regardless of how fast you spin it the needle will always go right through it. Rotation can only work because it's solid from outside, Bee is easily pierced though so he's a terrible opponent against the sand.

I think Bee just fired it at suigetsu. Bee didn't bother to change targets since suigetsu was just standing steady in front of him so he decided to took him out. A laser beam like that could be redirected like this if the target moves:

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Bee could just move his head and the beam just moves too. He didn't do it because he wanted to take suigetsu i guess

Please re-read the chapter

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Bee prepped it and Karin was RIGHT behind where the TBB was aimed and she even had Sasuke on her shoulders. Yet she dodged that

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by merely running away.

So Kishi obviously trolled the TBB laser but it's still canon that it does not travel fast.

 

[Unorthodox]

Killerbee still wins wild Shukaku lost to bunta

 

[Curse Mark]

Killerbee still wins wild Shukaku lost to bunta

ABC logic is just gonna be ignored man why you feel the need to troll?

 

[EZQ]

Smh lol Karin dodged TBB. Kishimoto's trolling.

 

[lanakui8]

Bee should win this quite easily.

Gaara's sand manipulation was already compared to shukaku's, and neither have restrained anything even remotely close to the power of a bijuu. In fact, when both combined their power for their ultimate sealing jutsu, madara's V3 senjutsu susanoo which wasn't in the same physical league as a bijuu broke out of there. I don't see how something that's so powerful it can

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isn't breaking out of there as well, and that's assuming the hachibi allows itself to get restrained.

Gaara's sand also can't really defend against a bijuudama, not when he has trouble stopping a lightened meteor (when bijuudamas produce far greater impacts than a normal meteor considering the meteors weren't destroyed nor did they create a crater upon impact) and when the strongest thing he's blocked is C3 while a bijuudama is almost as powerful as C0.

I don't see how their powers really stack, I think their best bet would be to fight alongside each other, but they are still heavily outgunned.

 

[Haizaki]

Sand in the manga cannot be destroyed. It took the C3 and didn't decrease in amount at all, even at the epicentre. It took the Enton and didn't wither away or get burned. Energy doesn't seem to affect Sand much from what was shown, only things with an impact or Raiton tend to affect it. If Shukaku used a large amount of sand to shield from the explosion I'm sure he'll be just fine since TBB doesn't exert any force like an explosion would, it's purely a large amount of energy inside that blast. Unless the sand is being vaporised Shukaku wouldn't be affected. And let me add, when Gaara used the defence vs C3 that was sand imbued with his chakra. Shukaku is a Bijuu and I think it's pretty safe to assume his chakra is far more potent and thus grants a far better defence.

Bold is based on what? C3 is much more inferior to a TBB obviously. No comparison to CTBB at all. An explosion would end it and no the sand defense isn't protecting them from the Bijuudama which is much more stronger than C3...Add the chakra or so that you're talking about and nothing changes since a TBB is much stronger that C3 let alone the CTBB.

The Shukaku part is just an assumption on your part with nothing to back it up except that it's a "Bijuu". That doesn't give it the feat to defend against a TBB.

True, TBB would happen faster then those sand bullets but the Sand Bullets are being reserved for a moment where TBB's are not being fired. Also, Gaara has shown the ability to manifest giant sand arms from the ground, why can't he use that right beneath Hachibi the second he sees TBB about to get prepped? Would take away his footing and make the TBB miss. Something along the lines of this [

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] on a larger scale since he's a perfect Jin.

What moment..? B can see the hand signs and he has an attack much more faster. There won't be such a period since B can always react with that.

The TBB is instant so Gaara isn't going to manifest chakra to do so before this happens

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. Not to mention Gaara in that first scan already prepped for that attack (Bottom left)

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in the second scan that tech isn't preventing or stopping B before he fires it off due to its speed. Neither would it save them from the range.

I think you misunderstood, TBB obviously won't detonate without any huge impact. I don't think it's far fetched to say the Wind can make the TBB detonate, sure it has an immense force behind it but so does the giant Futon which can clear a forest. I mean, if a single BM tail from Naruto can completely redirect a TBB (so overpower a TBB tremendously) but then fail to even inflict slight damage on Madara's v3 Susano. It's not as powerful as people make it seem.

Not that this comparison even matters since it's naturally flawed. Inflict significant damage? but then referring to it being able to slap away the TBB when it can easily do the same to Susanoo if the scenario was the same exact thing(Susanoo being fired towards Naruto). All in all it's a really bad one since you can't talk about the whether the damage it did the TBB was significant or not. What kind of comparison is this?

If he's even able to react with the wind style which requires a deep breath first to wipe the forest and can't even kill B...Even if he does it beforehand, he'll still be killed since B tanked a BD and on the other hand, it has no feats of such. Plus BD is faster in terms of prep anyways.

Sand Tsunami only used so that the Sealing funeral Pyramid can be formed as a follow-up. I'm not sure how Hachibi would get out nor am I sure how Hachibi would dodge the Sand Tsunami.

I showed you B's physical strength..Far Far Far stronger than Kimmimaro. That Sand Tsunami powered up isn't going to close the gap between their physical prowess. Besides B can even use a BD on them before fully sinking to stop the technique.

 

[Xlad]

Killer Bee wins quite handily. The argument of Gaara's sand workings sounds like what solarflare99 would say. Lmao!