[VS] DRSM Madara vs Juubito

[KidGamer65]

I've argued this nonsense too many times for me to get into it with you of all people. Unless you have any counter for the main point, don't expect another reply.

 

[Berner]

BOLD- Is proving my point that Senjutsu does more damage to their body than a normal tech would just because Senjutsu is their weakness. Minato and Tobirama don't have to prove anything with words with a scan of Obito healing after being hit with a Ninjutsu attack was shown in cannon.

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Omyoudon's turn Ninjutsu into nothing not the Juubi Jins body common misconception.​

lol everytime I try to change my background to a wiz and berner the mods keep deleting it

ot - I agree

 

[Scryed]

The debris that is pulled towards the CT orb don't contain senjutsu do they? Can't Obito actually use his Gudoudama to drill through them? until he reaches the core? He won't have to see where he's going since the gravity would pull his Gudoudama covered self right towards the core.

 

[Kagustuchi]

If it's unrestricted then he still has the option of releasing the Juubi.

 

[KidGamer65]

If it's unrestricted then he still has the option of releasing the Juubi.

He only has the Shinju, which is restricted. Juubi comes out of the body and automatically evolves into the Shinju just like it automatically evolves every time it gets enough power.

 

[TRE MERCER]

He only has the Shinju, which is restricted. Juubi comes out of the body and automatically evolves into the Shinju just like it automatically evolves every time it gets enough power.

Obito can spit the Juubi out without it turning into the Shinju and your main point was counter multiple times in multiple ways.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito can spit the Juubi out without it turning into the Shinju and you main point was counter multiple times in multiple ways.​

1. Fanfic.

2. Rest is irrelevant.

 

[TRE MERCER]

1. Fanfic.

2. Rest is irrelevant.

Obito cannonly spit the Juubi out and proceeded to activate I.T. What stops him from spiting the Juubi out and not activating I.T?

It's only irrelevant because you can't counter it.

You claim thery would make creators and Earthquakes but the debris from Madara CT only sent wind and dust toward Kakashi and Sakura.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito cannonly spit the Juubi out and proceeded to activate I.T. What stops him from spiting the Juubi out and not activating I.T?

It's only irrelevant because you can't counter it.

You claim thery would make creators and Earthquakes but the debris from Madara CT only sent wind and dust toward Kakashi and Sakura.​

False. He spit the Juubi out, which then evolved into the Shinju. He tried to use I.T, but failed.

Except all counters have been listed, including the nonsense below. So please. Gtfo.

 

[TRE MERCER]

False. He spit the Juubi out, which then evolved into the Shinju. He tried to use I.T, but failed.

Except all counters have been listed, including the nonsense below. So please. Gtfo.

False he spit out the Juubi and it turned into the Shinju. Except your counters were garbage and proven wrong.​

 

[KidGamer65]

False he spit out the Juubi and it turned into the Shinju. Except your counters were garbage and proven wrong.​

Yes, it automatically evolved like it always does. Period. The rest is your irrelevant denial of fact.

Beat it son. I'm done arguing with you as you literally have nothing to offer. Make like Kifflom and vanish pls.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yes, it automatically evolved like it always does. Period. The rest is your irrelevant denial of fact.

Beat it son. I'm done arguing with you as you literally have nothing to offer. Make like Kifflom and vanish pls.

I literally just owned you with the Senjutsu argument.​

 

[KidGamer65]

I literally just owned you with the Senjutsu argument.​

The unstriked parts are the parts I care about.

 

[TRE MERCER]

The unstriked parts are the parts I care about.

Why did you reply then?​

 

[Nagato The Sage]

Really don't see how Juubito stands a chance with the restrictions. Will explain later but Madara takes this Mid Diff at the worst

 

[lanakui8]

If Madara can use shinsuusenjuu alongside a super-sized V3 susanoo I can see him maybe pulling off a win.

Other than that, I don't see how he beats juubito even with TBB restricted considering the chakra arms he's capable of making are powerful enough to rip through the barrier that can withstand a super TBB.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

seriously, what does madara have that can break obito's TSB shield? 4 juubidamas (which are pure nature energy, so they wouldnt be cancelled) didnt leave a scratch on it, and something tells me that Juubi>Madara in terms of destructive power.

 

[Bronze]

seriously, what does madara have that can break obito's TSB shield? 4 juubidamas (which are pure nature energy, so they wouldnt be cancelled) didnt leave a scratch on it, and something tells me that Juubi>Madara in terms of destructive power.

Juubi TBB doesn't have Senjutsu, and Gududama cancels non-Senjutsu based techniques. Madara has Senjutsu and can break the Gududama.

 

[Nagato The Sage]

seriously, what does madara have that can break obito's TSB shield? 4 juubidamas (which are pure nature energy, so they wouldnt be cancelled) didnt leave a scratch on it, and something tells me that Juubi>Madara in terms of destructive power.

Then why did BSM Naruto and BM Minato's Rasengan Crack it? (Some argue they broke one) and BSM Naruto's TBB Crack it.

Multi Chibaku Tensei, repeated blasts from Yasaka Magatama, and slashes from a superior standing Susano'O than the one Sasuke used against him break it.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

ok, then, granted.

my other points, most of which i though up right now, still stand.

1: Obito has the shinju, so on the basis that having the shinju made madara immortal, so is he. madara doesnt have any Bijuu chakra, so he cant extract the bijuu like naruto did. (obito had left over juubi chakra, thats why he could take madaras stuff). no matter what madara does, obito is still immortal. even if he isnt immortal for some reason, he is still very durable and has a massive healing factor (as seen when he blew himself in half and totaly ignored it)

2: what does madara have that is powerful enough to break the shield, but which will also not kill him in the process? that is a key flaw in the whole chibaku tensei argument.

3: remember, madara has limited sage energy he took from hashirama, unlike naruto and sasuke when they fought juubito. (well, sasuke had juugos help, but madara isnt getting any more from hashi). once SM runs out, its all over for madara.

4: you need to understand how madara fights. he doesnt just throw his most powerful attack in as soon as possible. he didnt use perfect susanoo until the 5 kage beat his mokuton clones, he didnt force obito to use rinne tensei the second he turned up at the fight with naruto and bee, and he will not spam chibaku tensei when this fight begins.


as long as obito can last 5 minutes, which he can, madara is gonna lose SM and then it's no contest, and madara doesnt have the power or the mindset to beat obito in under 5 minutes. he spends the first few minutes bragging, and in general underestimating obito (he does that a lot), gets ready to fight for real, loses sage mode and dies for the fifth and final time.