Gonna focus on arguments made and their counters.
Proof's opener-
Argument 1:To counter mist Jirobo would burrow underground, and lift up the right portion of the rocks that make up the cliff
Jirobo would then slam/toss the rock to plug up the waterfall.
Argument 2: Jirobo would burrow underground, use magnetic sensing to sense Zabuza's movement
Jirobo would channel his chakra throughout the earth, effectively crushing Zabuza with rocks, etc.
Argument 3: Jirobo would burrow underground, use magnetic sensing to move to right below Zabuza
From there he would use earth dome on him
because hes right below zabuza and zabuza lacks dojutsu, he would not be able to pinpoint where the weak point is
Zabuza has no counter to the dome or his chakra being drained
EZQ's Counter
Counter 1: Says that Jirobo could not remove himself from the battlefield by burrowing. Not really what proof was arguing, so ill ignore that part.
Zabuza makes water clones to throw off magnetic sensing. (Side note: Why didnt he do that against Kakashi's dogs?)
Not a bad counter. This could work.
Counter 2: Zabuza jumps onto water to void sensing- " His only chance is to track him from under the earth with magnetic force, which isn’t happening if there’s no ground on their feet."
I dont think that counter really makes sense because if hes using magnetic sensing it doesnt matter how far above the earth zabuza is on the water- there's still earth under the water.
Not a very good counter, IMO.
Counter 3: Zabuza hears Jirobo lifting a mountain size rock and murks him.
Tries to argue that Jirobo cant put his chakra through the earth, despite that's clearly how earth dome works.
Counter 4: I think you misunderstood doc's argument again. "This is only viable if Jirobo can pin point Zabuza’s location without going underground, which is not possible, he can’t see him.
If Jirobo goes underground to pin point Zabuza’s location and then come out and trap him on his earth prison"
That's exactly what doc was arguing though. Jirobo is underneath him and uses earth dome.
Not a very good counter.
Doc's Counter
Counter 1: Says that Zabuza cant hear movement underground- brings up kakashi's dogs. Says hiding like a mole is silent.
Had evidence for first part, but not second. Decent counter.
Counter 2: Brought up Tobi being able to sense deidara after laying mines despite him being in the air. Solid counter to Zabuza being on water.
Says that Jirobo would be underground before/as the mist comes up so Zabuza would not initally know he left.
Says that Jirobo could focus on original zabuza before he made clones and pay attention to which one is real. Plausible counter.
Counter 3: Pointed out Jirobo didnt need to surface to attack.
Proved all basic surface earth techs require you to transfer chakra into earth.
Says that Jirobo's chakra in the dome was uneven because he was low on chakra not that he had poor control.
Overall a good counter. One of the best thus far.
Counter 4: Says Jirobo doesnt need time to lift massive rocks.
Already had the scans in previous arguments but didnt provide them again- not a great counter.
EZQ's counter
Counter 1: Poses the same argument again- zabuza's too fast for jirobo to lift a huge rock. Uses a scan about zabuza's hearing. Because you didnt offer any speed feats and repeated this argument gonna call this one a poor counter.
Says Zabuza is too fast to be crushed by mountains so big they take up a majority of the area.. no scans on speed or evasion.. poor counter
Counter 2: I think you completely misunderstood Jirobo's hiding like a mole. He didnt have to destroy the ground, that was what knocked naruto and company off of their feet.
In the other scans when Neji is looking for him, there's no destroying of earth. Because of this misunderstanding the whole counter doesnt really make sense.
Counter 3: Said the tobi example was bad because he only needed to sense one huge magnetic source.. I think this is another misunderstanding on your part. The argument being made is that distance from the mole (tobi or jirobo) doesnt affect the sensing.
Said that Jirobo will fail sensing because of water clones. I think you missed doc's arguments about sensing the original zabuza and tracking only the original.
You AGAIN misunderstood that Jirobo doesn't need to surface to attack despite it already being mentioned twice. "Anyways, at the moment Jirobo surfaces, Zabuza simply jumps back."
Another misunderstanding about the water saving zabuza from the sensing. the tobi scan countered this already.
Final Counter: # 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7 are still misconceptions.
Overall, both of you probably had equally good arguments- the counters were where things went iffy. The counters were pretty close, both of you started out countering things well and then EZQ's counters just steadily had more and more misconceptions and misunderstandings of what the doc had said.
Because of that, I'm gonna have to give it to the Doctor. I think Zabuza has the chance to win this high diff, it just wasnt debated as well as it could have been.
