Gengetsu + Danzo V.S Minato + Mu

[Paulson3lt]

Gengestsu/Mizukage (Not edo tensai, Does have clam summoning)

Danzo (Summoning is allowed, KA IS RESTRICTED)


V.S


Minato (Not edo tensai, Base, No summonings)

Mu (Not edo tensai. NO Invisability)



Fight takes place in large forrest

Each team has no knowledge of each others abilities

start 500 yards apart

 

[Haizaki]

Hmmmm Danzo can probably solo but very unlikely due to sensory. Otherwise,, Genjutsu and Baku would seal the victory for him.

Adding the Mizukage makes it a low difficulty fight for team 1.

 

[Apêx1]

Hmmmm Danzo can probably solo but very unlikely due to sensory.

That's some amazing point you got there .

OT: Mu can see Danzo's attempt to use a summon by noticing the blood being drawn, and his sensory capabilities could add to that. He would just need to charge his Jinton and fire it on Baku before Baku can open his mouth and initiate the suction. Once Baku's out this is a downhill battle for team 1. Minato shits all over Danzo's Izanagi just because of how FTG works, and marking Mu is a good option just for safety. In addition to this, Mu can pretty much kill the clam by flying upwards and locating it. The summons are the only genuine problems here, and they are pretty much all countered by Mu.

 

[Beans2]

Hmmmm Danzo can probably solo but very unlikely due to sensory. Otherwise,, Genjutsu and Baku would seal the victory for him.

Adding the Mizukage makes it a low difficulty fight for team 1.

Lmao, what the hell? Danzo is not soloing Minato and Muu, ever.

Team 2 wins mid difficulty. The team is quite OP since Minato can mark Muu's invisible body, and then Muu goes behind his opponent and Minato blitzes them seemingly coming from nowhere. Also S/T can redirect Jinton allowing for a Jinton blitz. The main problem is locating the Mizukage's clam, but Toad Oil Flame Bullet clears the mist in the area revealing the clam's location. Oh damn, summons are restricted? I guess it comes down to outlasting the clam's summon time, cause I don't see how Minato or Muu would locate it.

 

[Mr Major English]

Danzo soloes mid difference. His adroit use of Izanagi invariably stressed someone with Godlike reflex and instantaneous speed like Sasuke. Minato's pathetic non-instant Hiraishin speed is echelons beneath Sasuke's Body Flicker - which Danzo scarcely reacted. Izanagi stone-walls his slower Hiraishin - whereas Danzo's Body Flicker blitzes low difference.

If you disagree, you're not smart -- like I am.

 

[Apêx1]

Lmao, what the hell? Danzo is not soloing Minato and Muu, ever.

Team 2 wins mid difficulty. The team is quite OP since Minato can mark Muu's invisible body, and then Muu goes behind his opponent and Minato blitzes them seemingly coming from nowhere. Also S/T can redirect Jinton allowing for a Jinton blitz. The main problem is locating the Mizukage's clam, but Toad Oil Flame Bullet clears the mist in the area revealing the clam's location. Oh damn, summons are restricted? I guess it comes down to outlasting the clam's summon time, cause I don't see how Minato or Muu would locate it.

Invisibility is restricted tho. Wouldn't Mu flying outside of the clam's mist allow him to see it? Otherwise Minato locates it with finger sensing.

 

[Haizaki]

Lmao, what the hell? Danzo is not soloing Minato and Muu, ever.

Team 2 wins mid difficulty. The team is quite OP since Minato can mark Muu's invisible body, and then Muu goes behind his opponent and Minato blitzes them seemingly coming from nowhere. Also S/T can redirect Jinton allowing for a Jinton blitz. The main problem is locating the Mizukage's clam, but Toad Oil Flame Bullet clears the mist in the area revealing the clam's location. Oh damn, summons are restricted? I guess it comes down to outlasting the clam's summon time, cause I don't see how Minato or Muu would locate it.

Read the conditions then.

1- Mu cannot go invisible.
2- Summonings are restricted for Minato. Not sure how Goeman is going to be happening when Ma and Pa can't be summoned or any other toad...Meaning no counter to Baku.
3- 0 intel...Which mean they have no knowledge on Izanagi and Genjutsu which Danzo can utilize. Hence Danzo can take advantage of this by leaving himself opened for an attack and then spawn right in front of any of them and cast a Genjutsu. Similar to the bottom panel of this scan where one has no choice but to make eye contact

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So no it's not some joke or me trolling. Danzo can possibly solo under this condition.

 

[KidGamer65]

Gengetsu and Danzo probably win.

 

[Beans2]

Read the conditions then.

1- Mu cannot go invisible.
2- Summonings are restricted for Minato. Not sure how Goeman is going to be happening when Ma and Pa can't be summoned or any other toad...Meaning no counter to Baku.
3- 0 intel...Which mean they have no knowledge on Izanagi and Genjutsu which Danzo can utilize. Hence Danzo can take advantage of this by leaving himself opened for an attack and then spawn right in front of any of them and cast a Genjutsu. Similar to the bottom panel of this scan where one has no choice but to make eye contact

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So no it's not some joke or me trolling. Danzo can possibly solo under this condition.

Didn't seen invisibility was restricted. Still, base Minato solos Danzo mid difficulty, without summons. Danzo has no chance of soloing.

 

[Haizaki]

Didn't seen invisibility was restricted. Still, base Minato solos Danzo mid difficulty, without summons. Danzo has no chance of soloing.

Even with no intel on Genjutsu? How? Even with no intel in Izanagi? Please explain.

 

[Beans2]

Even with no intel on Genjutsu? How? Even with no intel in Izanagi? Please explain.

Izanagi is easily reacted to and evaded. Genjutsu is never landing on minato, he's too fast.

 

[Haizaki]

Izanagi is easily reacted to and evaded. Genjutsu is never landing on minato, he's too fast.

Yes but the combo is the problem. Plus being fast doesn't mean you'll never get hit with that Genjutsu. With no intel he has no choice but to make eye contact at a point in time. Sasuke hit this guy from how far out?

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My point is no matter how fast you are, you can't beat a Sharingan user with no intel on the eyes. Minato isn't Gai, he'll be faced with that especially with no intel on it. Minato at a point would study Danzo...Don't see how exactly he won't be hit.

The Izanagi combo I was speaking about is similar to how Danzo carelessly ran at Sasuke and then got attacked. If he gets killed he'll just respawn in an uncomfortable position where Minato has no choice other than to look at his eyes. Minato doesn't have info on this so saying he'll not fall for it is rather less likely. Then Baku as well? He'll suck in all possibly including the Kunais so how Minato finding his way out of that?

What you're saying would be possible with full intel.

 

[ARGUS]

Gengetsu and danzo win
Clam genjutsu screws them over

 

[Oblivionx]

Team 2 wins ...
izanagi is only problem and genjutsu is out of question now that KA is restricted... but then team 1 has no intel on jinton or ftg... people think advantage is on team 1's side but ftg without intel is more deadly than izanagi especially when we take into account reactions of contenders... clam will be detected by flying up in the air like gaara detected it... or ftging outta mist... that is if mizukage uses summon right at the start... without intel mizukage is removed instantly making it 2 vs 1 against danzo... and team 2 would know how sharingan works like even if they don't know about izanagi and if sasuke can figure it out, why can't minato & muu... so danzo will prolong battle sure but he can't outlast the duo...

 

[Apêx1]

Wait, if the clam Genjutsu is running how exactly is Danzo going to do anything inside it? Only one who can see is Trollkage, Mu flies up and Minato uses finger sensing to spot the location of the Clam. Let's not forget that Tobirama's finger sensing allowed him to now he was surrounded by enemies, meaning it works via contact sensing. Mu Jinton's the shit out of it

 

[Beans2]

Yes but the combo is the problem. Plus being fast doesn't mean you'll never get hit with that Genjutsu. With no intel he has no choice but to make eye contact at a point in time. Sasuke hit this guy from how far out?

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My point is no matter how fast you are, you can't beat a Sharingan user with no intel on the eyes. Minato isn't Gai, he'll be faced with that especially with no intel on it. Minato at a point would study Danzo...Don't see how exactly he won't be hit.

The Izanagi combo I was speaking about is similar to how Danzo carelessly ran at Sasuke and then got attacked. If he gets killed he'll just respawn in an uncomfortable position where Minato has no choice other than to look at his eyes. Minato doesn't have info on this so saying he'll not fall for it is rather less likely. Then Baku as well? He'll suck in all possibly including the Kunais so how Minato finding his way out of that?

What you're saying would be possible with full intel.

Eh, not really feeling like debating this rn.