[VS] DRSM Madara vs Juubito

[Apêx1]

Location: Juubito vs everyone
Distance: 20 meters
Restrictions: PS, TBB and Shinju are restricted
Intel: Full

 

[KidGamer65]

Chibaku Tensei is Madara's only reliable way of victory here.

-Obito is never blitzing, so if anyone wants to make that claim I suggest they think first.
-Gudo Dama attacks are all blocked by Susanoo.
-Obito's regen is useless since if Madara hits him with CT, he'll die on impact.
-Obito has no other jutsu worth mentioning.

And Obito's only chance is Nunoboku. Some speculate that if Obito wasn't losing his resolve, Nunoboku would've skewered them both. If Nunoboku would've given Obito the win against Naruto and Sasuke based on it's power and it's power alone, he might be able to cut through any CT Madara sends his way, but if that is false, Madara makes a bunch of CT that are at least the size of Nagato's and pastes Obito. And to gain some perspective on how powerful a singular CT drop would be, (assuming it's the size of the one Nagato made) Edo Madara's Meteor was only half of PS's size in height, and a bit wider than it, and one full weighted full powered meteor along with the lightened meteor's impact smashed Madara's V3 Susanoo and obliterated him.

That already makes it far stronger than Kirin.

Nagato's CT dwarfs Madara's Meteor, thus the damage done would dwarf it too. Add more than one and Obito never tanks it even with the Gudo Dama.

 

[LuckyMan]

Obito lost to Kyuubi+ISO Susanoo fusion. How does he beat Madaras giant V4 Susanoo?

 

[Passerby]

Chibaku Tensei is Madara's only reliable way of victory here.

-Obito is never blitzing, so if anyone wants to make that claim I suggest they think first.
-Gudo Dama attacks are all blocked by Susanoo.
-Obito's regen is useless since if Madara hits him with CT, he'll die on impact.
-Obito has no other jutsu worth mentioning.

And Obito's only chance is Nunoboku. Some speculate that if Obito wasn't losing his resolve, Nunoboku would've skewered them both. If Nunoboku would've given Obito the win against Naruto and Sasuke based on it's power and it's power alone, he might be able to cut through any CT Madara sends his way, but if that is false, Madara makes a bunch of CT that are at least the size of Nagato's and pastes Obito. And to gain some perspective on how powerful a singular CT drop would be, (assuming it's the size of the one Nagato made) Edo Madara's Meteor was only half of PS's size in height, and a bit wider than it, and one full weighted full powered meteor along with the lightened meteor's impact smashed Madara's V3 Susanoo and obliterated him.

That already makes it far stronger than Kirin.

Nagato's CT dwarfs Madara's Meteor, thus the damage done would dwarf it too. Add more than one and Obito never tanks it even with the Gudo Dama.

Obito was going to use GD to tank Juubi TBB and you think it can't tank rocks?

 

[Apêx1]

Chibaku Tensei is Madara's only reliable way of victory here.

-Obito is never blitzing, so if anyone wants to make that claim I suggest they think first.
-Gudo Dama attacks are all blocked by Susanoo.
-Obito's regen is useless since if Madara hits him with CT, he'll die on impact.
-Obito has no other jutsu worth mentioning.

And Obito's only chance is Nunoboku. Some speculate that if Obito wasn't losing his resolve, Nunoboku would've skewered them both. If Nunoboku would've given Obito the win against Naruto and Sasuke based on it's power and it's power alone, he might be able to cut through any CT Madara sends his way, but if that is false, Madara makes a bunch of CT that are at least the size of Nagato's and pastes Obito. And to gain some perspective on how powerful a singular CT drop would be, (assuming it's the size of the one Nagato made) Edo Madara's Meteor was only half of PS's size in height, and a bit wider than it, and one full weighted full powered meteor along with the lightened meteor's impact smashed Madara's V3 Susanoo and obliterated him.

That already makes it far stronger than Kirin.

Nagato's CT dwarfs Madara's Meteor, thus the damage done would dwarf it too. Add more than one and Obito never tanks it even with the Gudo Dama.

Wouldn't Juubito's chakra arms manhandle any Susano variant? And Juubito would literally have to be watching Madara for multiple CT's to be initiated.

 

[KidGamer65]

Manga has been done with for over a year and people still think that Gudo Dama tanked Juubidama? Lmfao. He negated it. Unless you think Naruto and Sasuke's arrow and bd combo attack is stronger than 4 Juubi BDs that is. Not to mention "rocks" is a nonsensical way of downplaying it.

@Apex:Kurama slapped away his arms. Madaras Susanoo in V4 stage should easily replicate the same thing. And even if Madara had no defense, what would Obito do? Rushing him won't stop it, he can't bust them before they reach full size either.

 

[Apêx1]

Manga has been done with for over a year and people still think that Gudo Dama tanked Juubidama? Lmfao. He negated it. Unless you think Naruto and Sasuke's arrow and bd combo attack is stronger than 4 Juubi BDs that is. Not to mention "rocks" is a nonsensical way of downplaying it.

@Apex:Kurama slapped away his arms. Madaras Susanoo in V4 stage should easily replicate the same thing. And even if Madara had no defense, what would Obito do? Rushing him won't stop it, he can't bust them before they reach full size either.

True, I guess Madara would win this via Deva. But Juubi Dama contains Senjutsu, you can't negate Senjutsu, despite how stupid it sounds for him to have negated it.

 

[Blunt]

Madara wins and I'll explain if need be.

 

[KidGamer65]

True, I guess Madara would win this via Deva. But Juubi Dama contains Senjutsu, you can't negate Senjutsu, despite how stupid it sounds for him to have negated it.

It obviously didn't if Obito can negate it.

 

[Apêx1]

It obviously didn't if Obito can negate it.

It's not an option, Juubi is made of Senjutsu and thus all its attacks would be Senjutsu based. Same way a Juubi Jin's attacks are all Senjutsu based.

 

[Narutp1sasuke2 LetsGo]

Juubi Jin obito spanks that booty

 

[TRE MERCER]

The stupidity in this thread from KG killed me.

Madara best feat was reacting to an ftg user. Juubito without his head and arms near his bottom half reacted to KM Minato[

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] who is easily above Tobirama in terms of speed. V2 Obito is even faster than this. CT l0l. Obito would burst right out of CT. Mindless Juubito had the physical strength to burst multiple Hotei gates. He easily plows the the rocks in CT or he could simply erase them with his TSB's. Madara gets ripped right out of his v4 Susanoo via chakra arms or Obito cimply plows through it.​

Madara wins and I'll explain if need be.

Please explain....​

 

[TRE MERCER]

It's not an option, Juubi is made of Senjutsu and thus all its attacks would be Senjutsu based. Same way a Juubi Jin's attacks are all Senjutsu based.

Your wrong. The Juubi is entirely composed of nature energy. Juubi tree was from the Juubi thus it was not Senjutsu which is an even balance of chakra and Nature energy. TSB's can negate Nature energy but they can't negate Senjutsu.​

 

[LuckyMan]

But Juubi Dama contains Senjutsu, you can't negate Senjutsu, despite how stupid it sounds for him to have negated it.

The Jubi is an enormous mass of Narutal Energy. Senjutsu works by balancing spiritual and physical energy of the chakra. The Jubi can't do that evidently. Natural Energy is not Senjutsu, its just Natural Energy.

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[Apêx1]

The Jubi is an enormous mass of Narutal Energy. Senjutsu works by balancing spiritual and physical energy of the chakra. The Jubi can't do that evidently. Natural Energy is not Senjutsu, its just Natural Energy.

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Actually, this is the VIZ [

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]. Anyways, Juubi's chakra is like Hagromo's chakra. Then we think about it this way, Sasuke got Hagromo's Yin chakra yet that chakra was still Senjutsu by nature. Juubi works in the same way, when he became a part of Obito and Madara he didn't give them just nature energy, he basically made there chakra Senjutsu by nature (otherwise they wouldn't be buffing their chakra since they only get nature energy). So no, his attacks are all Senjutsu.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Actually, this is the VIZ [

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]. Anyways, Juubi's chakra is like Hagromo's chakra. Then we think about it this way, Sasuke got Hagromo's Yin chakra yet that chakra was still Senjutsu by nature. Juubi works in the same way, when he became a part of Obito and Madara he didn't give them just nature energy, he basically made there chakra Senjutsu by nature (otherwise they wouldn't be buffing their chakra since they only get nature energy). So no, his attacks are all Senjutsu.

Please don't argue your wrong here.​

 

[LuckyMan]

Actually, this is the VIZ [

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]. Anyways, Juubi's chakra is like Hagromo's chakra. Then we think about it this way, Sasuke got Hagromo's Yin chakra yet that chakra was still Senjutsu by nature. Juubi works in the same way, when he became a part of Obito and Madara he didn't give them just nature energy, he basically made there chakra Senjutsu by nature (otherwise they wouldn't be buffing their chakra since they only get nature energy). So no, his attacks are all Senjutsu.

And TSB negated the damage of all its attacks except when Naruto and company used actual Senjutsu on him.

 

[Apêx1]

And TSB negated the damage of all its attacks except when Naruto and company used actual Senjutsu on him.

Don't try to ignore the point son, I know what happened in the manga. Fact remains that this happened and fact remains that Juubi's TBB does use Senjutsu. It's either an outlier or it's because TBB doesn't actually exert force on objects, and the energy per area of the TBB was too low to atomise the Gudo Dama shield/it can't be vaporised.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Don't try to ignore the point son, I know what happened in the manga. Fact remains that this happened and fact remains that Juubi's TBB does use Senjutsu. It's either an outlier or it's because TBB doesn't actually exert force on objects, and the energy per area of the TBB was too low to atomise the Gudo Dama shield/it can't be vaporised.

One question sir.

Why did his TSB get busted by a Senjutsu tbb from Naruto? Bold doesn't make sense.​

 

[Apêx1]

One question sir.

Why did his TSB get busted by a Senjutsu tbb from Naruto? Bold doesn't make sense.​

I can't answer that, only thing I can claim is the momentum of the ball itself would be immense enough to damage the TSB shield when used in conjunction with the arrow. Either that or outlier.

The explosion of TBB does not exert force on anything, you don't get put under pressure/pushed or anything like that.