Orochimaru exists outside of reason and had to be nerfed

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if orochimaru has the ambition to do something,he can usually find a way to do it.his ability to break all logic is unmatched




Say what you want,theres nobody in the entire series with the power to remove him from existence.

Cut him in half? Lol nope

Burn his body? Lol nope

Seal him? Lawl nopeee (shoutout to my boy failtachi)


He's like aizen but less poetic
 

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Almost everyone in Naruto needed to be nerfed, Orochimaru still admitted itachi was stronger than him :bdpf: on a plus note Orochimaru continue to exists as long as the curse mark exists, remove all curse marks and kill Orochimaru then it's gg snake :bdpf:
 

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Sasuke can teleport him to the other side of the universe use C

And go back to earth.

Where ya at oro? :bdpf:
 

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Almost everyone in Naruto needed to be nerfed, Orochimaru still admitted itachi was stronger than him :bdpf: on a plus note Orochimaru continue to exists as long as the curse mark exists, remove all curse marks and kill Orochimaru then it's gg snake :bdpf:

You make it sound so easy but remember he put the curse mark on hundreds if not thousands of prisoners of whom were all released when taka took over.tracking them down would be next to impossible.

If you've ever seen/read harry potter,you know its impossible to kill voldemort without destroying the horcrux.its similar with oro except he can make limitless amounts of them
 

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Nerf? nah, Orochimaru needs buffs if anything.
 

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You make it sound so easy but remember he put the curse mark on hundreds if not thousands of prisoners of whom were all released when taka took over.tracking them down would be next to impossible.

If you've ever seen/read harry potter,you know its impossible to kill voldemort without destroying the horcrux.its similar with oro except he can make limitless amounts of them

All of Orochimaru's curse marked prisoners are dead, along with anyone who had the real curse mark at the time.

This is Orochimaru's last life.
 

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All of Orochimaru's curse marked prisoners are dead, along with anyone who had the real curse mark at the time.

This is Orochimaru's last life.


How did they all die? Forgive me if i missed that
 
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Oro exists due to plot.

He's like Voldemort. Destroy his curse seals on his subjects (horcruxes) and he's all outta lives.
 

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Orochimaru also exists inside Itachi's Totsuka bottle.
 

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All of Orochimaru's curse marked prisoners are dead, along with anyone who had the real curse mark at the time.

This is Orochimaru's last life.

Dude. Orochimaru can make more...
Orochimaru also exists inside Itachi's Totsuka bottle.

Cept he escaped at the last second. He was never trapped within Totsuka.
 
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Orochimaru exists as long as there is someone to use some of his DNA and the kaija houin technique directly to a curse seal. If these three steps are not taken, he will not return. As it stands, I doubt that it would be easy to do, as only Konoha seems to know the kaija houin (Sasuke, and maybe Kakashi), the curse seal bearers appear to be scattered, and Orochimaru's DNA would be dealt with accordingly (most likely by Sasuke.)

What do you think?
 

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Orochimaru exists as long as there is someone to use some of his DNA and the kaija houin technique directly to a curse seal. If these three steps are not taken, he will not return. As it stands, I doubt that it would be easy to do, as only Konoha seems to know the kaija houin (Sasuke, and maybe Kakashi), the curse seal bearers appear to be scattered, and Orochimaru's DNA would be dealt with accordingly (most likely by Sasuke.)

What do you think?

It's not impossible for Orochimaru to have gathered new and competent followers within the past 10 to 17 years. All he has to do is tell them how to resurrect him, which anyone around Part 1 Kakashi's level can do. Granted there aren't many in the verse on Part 1 Kakashi's level, but 10 to 17 years is a long time to find special people.
That is of course assuming Orochimaru can't resurrect himself, but that's just be almost total speculation on my part.
 
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It's not impossible for Orochimaru to have gathered new and competent followers within the past 10 to 17 years. All he has to do is tell them how to resurrect him, which anyone around Part 1 Kakashi's level can do. Granted there aren't many in the verse on Part 1 Kakashi's level, but 10 to 17 years is a long time to find special people.
That is of course assuming Orochimaru can't resurrect himself, but that's just be almost total speculation on my part.

I agree, it is not impossible. However, it is highly unlikely he could have done any of that without Konoha being at least somewhat aware of his movements. Amassing followers takes time, resources, and a certain degree of secrecy. Yamato's life mission seems to be observing Orochimaru's movements, and Sasuke's life mission seems to be occasionally popping up and threatening Orochimaru (in addition to exploring dimensions.) If he has any followers besides his reclaimed team Hebi, it would be known.

On the other hand, if there IS be a time to act, it would be now while Naruto is the hokage and his son has successfully infiltrated the village. But, this would best be discussed in another thread.

What do you think?
 

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I agree, it is not impossible. However, it is highly unlikely he could have done any of that without Konoha being at least somewhat aware of his movements. Amassing followers takes time, resources, and a certain degree of secrecy. Yamato's life mission seems to be observing Orochimaru's movements, and Sasuke's life mission seems to be occasionally popping up and threatening Orochimaru (in addition to exploring dimensions.) If he has any followers besides his reclaimed team Hebi, it would be known.

On the other hand, if there IS be a time to act, it would be now while Naruto is the hokage and his son has successfully infiltrated the village. But, this would best be discussed in another thread.

What do you think?
One way of preventing the others from discovering his movements could be to leave behind a Shadow Clone while he goes out to work. After all, Madara's Kage Bunshins were so effective Tobirama couldn't distinguish it from the real body even after prolonged interaction with it. Certainly Orochimaru at full power (and then some) could create one that could fool the likes of Hebi and Yamato. Or, he could create a subservient genetic clone of himself or something like that.
Also, I don't think Sasuke, or anyone for that matter, pops in on him at all. Suigetsu notes that it's been a long time when he last saw Sasuke, and Orochimaru is pleasantly surprised when Sasuke dropped by. A very stupid move on Konoha's part, but whatever. To add to that, Orochimaru can successfully avoid Konoha, Suna, and Akatsyki and has been for years. Odds are, he can easily avoid Yamato.

I disagree about right now being a time to act, actually. It would be better, I imagine, to wait until Naruto and especially Sasuke are dead. After all, we don't know where Hebi's true loyalty lies, though it's most likely with Sasuke. They could be there to keep an eye on Orochimaru for Sasuke. But that's lead back to my point about Kage Bunshins and genetic clones.

Though, yes, amassing followers would take time and effort. Still, he'd only need a few semi competent ones who know how to keep quiet and lay low. Like the Death Eaters in Harry Potter lol.
 
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One way of preventing the others from discovering his movements could be to leave behind a Shadow Clone while he goes out to work. After all, Madara's Kage Bunshins were so effective Tobirama couldn't distinguish it from the real body even after prolonged interaction with it. Certainly Orochimaru at full power (and then some) could create one that could fool the likes of Hebi and Yamato. Or, he could create a subservient genetic clone of himself or something like that.
Also, I don't think Sasuke, or anyone for that matter, pops in on him at all. Suigetsu notes that it's been a long time when he last saw Sasuke, and Orochimaru is pleasantly surprised when Sasuke dropped by. A very stupid move on Konoha's part, but whatever. To add to that, Orochimaru can successfully avoid Konoha, Suna, and Akatsyki and has been for years. Odds are, he can easily avoid Yamato.

I disagree about right now being a time to act, actually. It would be better, I imagine, to wait until Naruto and especially Sasuke are dead. After all, we don't know where Hebi's true loyalty lies, though it's most likely with Sasuke. They could be there to keep an eye on Orochimaru for Sasuke. But that's lead back to my point about Kage Bunshins and genetic clones.

Though, yes, amassing followers would take time and effort. Still, he'd only need a few semi competent ones who know how to keep quiet and lay low. Like the Death Eaters in Harry Potter lol.

Orochimaru could do all of that, yes. However that takes a certain amount of initiative, and it may simply be that Orochimaru is not interested in worrying himself about if he is killed/sealed again. Also, despite their obvious similarities, CURRENT Orochimaru does not seem similar to Voldemort anymore. Why waste efforts to bring yourself back to life when it would be better to secure ways that make it hard for you to be killed?

Waiting until Naruto and Sasuke die would be better, but not efficient time wise. Mitsuki is currently in the village, Orochimaru's relationship with the hokages (I consider both Naruto and Sasuke to be two sides of the title "hokage") is on a meet-and-not-immediately-battle level, and Yamato, though present, is old and his presence noted. Orochimaru should begin his plan now to have it ready for when Naruto and Sasuke ultimately die. This is my opinion at least, and Mitsuki is simply another means to complete his plan. Why take over bodies that can reject you when you can take over your own child? Less chances of rejection (physically and mentally), and Mitsuki by that point would be high up in the Konoha military and have information useful to Orochimaru (Orochimaru taking over someone's body also acquires their memories.) However, this would be best discussed in another thread.

What do you think?
 
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