If Sasuke faced Pain instead of Naruto...

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There has been many times where Naruto throws it at an incredible speed and that was one of them deny all you want

No matter how fast Naruto throws it, it will always be slower than Susanoo Arrow. And Naruto didn't even gave his best shot then.

Frs is sluggish? Frs has better speed feats than susanno arrow. Crossing konoha before half of pains paths could even move.

It's second feat is crossing chibaku crater in literally 3 seconds.

Crossing Konoha? That's rubbish. The Pains were just a small distance away. You're spewing BS now.
 

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No matter how fast Naruto throws it, it will always be slower than Susanoo Arrow. And Naruto didn't even gave his best shot then.

durr he needed a bow to make it that fast
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(frs)Exactly so imagine how fast it is
 

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In that fight, Animal Path didn't use all 11 summons, and it doesn't matter how many summons are at her disposal. Only the ones used were important because we're posing the same conditions on Sasuke as Naruto.

And BTW, even if Animal Path uses all 11 summons, Sasuke can Amaterasu as much summons as he can especially the ones needed (like the immortal dog), then Susanoo Arrow Animal Path so that she cannot make more summons, and then the remaining summons can be cut down with Susanoo Sword or shot with Susanoo Arrow. Not a really big deal.

Or just killing Animal Path with Susanoo Arrow will finish off those summons. Am I wrong? LOL. So there is no need for the hassle of using Amaterasu or Susanoo techs on the summons. Chakra preserved, and all dealt with.

You got that? Under same circumstances as Naruto, MS Sasuke WINS. The only real threat is Deva whose powers were gone.

Animal didn't use all 11 cuz it didn't get the chance to. It was the first path naruto took down completely, there's nothing barring it from summoning all of its animals here.

11 Amaterasu's from ms sasuke. Lol. Stop playing.
Susanoo arrow gets countered by black rods, and tbh some of the animals can tank it seeing as they took a sage art massive rasengan and didn't poof.

Animal path gets revived by naraka if sasuke ever gets the chance. Which he won't.

Sasuke gets bopped. He doesn't have 3 boss toads and two sages like naruto did. All he'd have is Katsuyu feeding him info mid fight, which isn't enough since he doesn't have the means to capitalize on it.


He gets bopped.
 

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No matter how fast Naruto throws it, it will always be slower than Susanoo Arrow. And Naruto didn't even gave his best shot then.



Crossing Konoha? That's rubbish. The Pains were just a small distance away. You're spewing BS now.

The cater feat still stands and is the superior feat anyways. Glad you overlooked it cuz you know it's true.
 

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Animal didn't use all 11 cuz it didn't get the chance to. It was the first path naruto took down completely, there's nothing barring it from summoning all of its animals here.

11 Amaterasu's from ms sasuke. Lol. Stop playing.
Susanoo arrow gets countered by black rods, and tbh some of the animals can tank it seeing as they took a sage art massive rasengan and didn't poof.

Animal path gets revived by naraka if sasuke ever gets the chance. Which he won't.

Sasuke gets bopped. He doesn't have 3 boss toads and two sages like naruto did. All he'd have is Katsuyu feeding him info mid fight, which isn't enough since he doesn't have the means to capitalize on it.


He gets bopped.

Yes, she didn't get the chance. She won't get it against Sasuke either. Because the circumstances are similar to Naruto's.

Learn to read. I didn't say 11 Amaterasu's from Sasuke. Amaterasu's are limited to how much Sasuke can perform especially on summons the the 3 headed dog. For the rest, Susanoo sword is enough and arrow for the aerial shots.

Naraka also dies along with Animal during Sasuke's Susanoo Arrow barrage. Animal can't get revived. Sasuke can easily kill Animal Path and remove the summons. I'm only giving you a chance or argument by listing counters to beat those summons. Consider yourself lucky.

Sasuke doesn't need dumb toads to win. Naruto needs them.

The cater feat still stands and is the superior feat anyways. Glad you overlooked it cuz you know it's true.

FRS is slow enough for anyone to react, while Susanoo arrow can only be dodged by agile SM users.
 

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MS Sasuke can take on Pein

If both of these guys carry out their battle for a long period of time, then both will run out of chakra and it will narrow done to who has the better basic skill/knowledge.
 

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Kirin is nature energy,which mean,petra path absorbing the jutsu will be useless.As a result all the other paths beside Deva path will be destroy by Kirin AOE Impact on the place .Deva path might survive using his ST,but Sasuke can use his base speed to reach him during the cool down to slice his head off with chidori/sword.
CT is useless because the user generated by an black orb which collected earth matter to seal their oponent.Sasuke lightning release is stronger than earth release.Sasuke just have to use extended chidori sword to slice the orb and the boulders into halve (since the chidori sword can cut tailbeast ,meteorite,dediara bomb dragon containing clay)
 

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Yes, she didn't get the chance. She won't get it against Sasuke either. Because the circumstances are similar to Naruto's.

Learn to read. I didn't say 11 Amaterasu's from Sasuke. Amaterasu's are limited to how much Sasuke can perform especially on summons the the 3 headed dog. For the rest, Susanoo sword is enough and arrow for the aerial shots.

Naraka also dies along with Animal during Sasuke's Susanoo Arrow barrage. Animal can't get revived. Sasuke can easily kill Animal Path and remove the summons. I'm only giving you a chance or argument by listing counters to beat those summons. Consider yourself lucky.

Sasuke doesn't need dumb toads to win. Naruto needs them.



FRS is slow enough for anyone to react, while Susanoo arrow can only be dodged by agile SM users.

Yeah no. In no way shape or form San sasuke replicate what naruto did to defeat animal path. The only thing that will be similar is Deva not being a 100% at beginning. Sasuke doesn't have toads to break los and make it a 1v1. Bunta isn't here, PA isn't here. Without those two sasuke isn't getting animal path by herself therefore she'll summons all 11.

Yeah. There's 11 summons therefore 11 Amaterasu's. You're saying Learn to read yet you continue to imply that ama is being used to eliminate them. Meaning 11 Amaterasu's 1 for each summon. I said it time and time again. Arrows get countered by black rods from any of the paths.

Susanoo arrow barrage? Wtf? He's only shown being able to fire two at a time and I've said time and time again how they get countered. Either way the moment he pulls susanno machine path peppers him with missiles. Bruh we can take this to the vs threads.

So how is he breaking los? He can't. So how is he gonna force 1v1? He can't.

Yet it's faster than susanno arrow. These weak as fck arrows that have problems penetrating wood. Lol u know how sad that is? That's part 1 Kidomaru lvl.
 

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MS Sasuke can take on Pein

If both of these guys carry out their battle for a long period of time, then both will run out of chakra and it will narrow done to who has the better basic skill/knowledge.

Nagato has much more chakra than that of sasuke. Mind you sasuke's fight with Danzos was 10 minutes and during that time he had to get healed and chakra from karin. Where as nagato took on all of konoha plus naruto and kurama yet had enough chakra to revive everyone in the end. Sasuke gets crushed if it becomes attrition.
 

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Nagato has much more chakra than that of sasuke. Mind you sasuke's fight with Danzos was 10 minutes and during that time he had to get healed and chakra from karin. Where as nagato took on all of konoha plus naruto and kurama yet had enough chakra to revive everyone in the end. Sasuke gets crushed if it becomes attrition.

This is pein not nagato

Nagato having much more chakra than Indra's incarnate is laughable at best.
Taken into account the preta path and many times he has recovered his chakra absorbing fodders, you literally have no accurate measure on what Pein/nagato's chakra quantity is when fighting only one opponent.

And considering the fact that you judged Sasuke base on his Danzo fight without calculating the chakra loss from the kages he fought, the replenished chakra he received from zetsu/karin, and the physical energy he lost throughout the summit to the danzo fight, well I can tell you came in this thread with a biased mindset already.

Now I still remember vividly the insult you gave me on a thread regarding minato and his situation with the masked man. So with that in mind do not reply me, I don't care what you have to say, and it's a good thing that you are not kishi blah blah blah with all that other emotional nonsense bashing.

Go away
 

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Sasuke looses just as bad as Naruto. He wastes his chakra taking down the first few pains, they revive, animal path sommons army, they scrape Sasuke off the pavement. Pain fights to overwhelm his enemies, Sasuke is no different, between evading and trying to make time for amaterasu to work, Sasuke doesn't stand a chance in hell.
 

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This is pein not nagato
nagato controls pain. Their reserves is a reflection of his.

Nagato having much more chakra than Indra's incarnate is laughable at best.
Whats laughable is you acting under the assumption that being an incarnate automatically grants you high amounts of chakra. According to you sasuke fresh out the womb has more chakra than nagato since he was an incarnate since birth. Then again bad logic is always expected from you.
Taken into account the preta path and many times he has recovered his chakra absorbing fodders, you literally have no accurate measure on what Pein/nagato's chakra quantity is when fighting only one opponent.
None of the chakra absorbed by the paths go back to nagato. if it did he would have turned into stone. Lol more bad logic.

And considering the fact that you judged Sasuke base on his Danzo fight without calculating the chakra loss from the kages he fought, the replenished chakra he received from zetsu/karin, and the physical energy he lost throughout the summit to the danzo fight, well I can tell you came in this thread with a biased mindset already.
even more bs. Karin brought him back to 100 percent before facing danzo as per obito's orders. We've seen her technique replenish chakra as well as heal wounds so any "physical enegry" lost would have been naturally regained.

Now I still remember vividly the insult you gave me on a thread regarding minato and his situation with the masked man. So with that in mind do not reply me, I don't care what you have to say, and it's a good thing that you are not kishi blah blah blah with all that other emotional nonsense bashing.

Go away
What? How about you stay on topic or stay the fck off the thread?:bye:
 

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In the EXACT SAME CONDITIONS MS Sasuke Mid Diffs, Due to superior speed. Different threats for different people. Pain cannot fight a fast person when their MO is divide and conquer. Pain was made for someone who uses power, not speed. MS Sasuke can easily see his chakra flow for ST, and time his attack according, instead of feeling. Deva Path was Naruto's Counter, not Sasukes.
Asura Path is the biggest threat, but it still can't break a Susanoo above ribcage, and Sasuke should be able to outrun a ST on the Scale of the one Pain made, if not burn the core.

Animal Path and The Multi Headed Dog are dealt with via speed.


Anyone substantially faster than Naruto at that point would take the battle, and Sasuke is one of those people.

Hebi Sasuke can give Pain a mid diff fight.
 

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Frs is sluggish? Frs has better speed feats than susanno arrow. Crossing konoha before half of pains paths could even move.

It's second feat is crossing chibaku crater in literally 3 seconds.

- Every Path dodges and reacts to it. Only one falls in while rescuing the other and (the other one) still makes it out.

- FRS traveled into the core because of the immense pull of its gravity; Itachi clearly mentions it as Naruto was worried about aim since they only had one shot on their hands before the debris rose up in larger volumes and obscured the core completely.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
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- Every Path dodges and reacts to it. Only one falls in while rescuing the other and (the other one) still makes it out.

- FRS traveled into the core because of the immense pull of its gravity; Itachi clearly mentions it as Naruto was worried about aim since they only had one shot on their hands before the debris rose up in larger volumes and obscured the core completely.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Clearly you don't know what I'm talking about. It's best to keep your mout shut when you lack knowledge.

Aren't you tired of me handing you L's?
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You sound really upset. It's almost hilarious.

Doubt it, as it's 4 seconds. Really, a tech that took four seconds to travel till the end of the crater is a fast tech? By the way, that ain't "crossing Konoha". What does that even mean? When it's launching from more than half the mark of the debris.

You think it's faster than an arrow that requires an S/T tech's warp point to match it?

Handing L's? Was that some kind of a clever come back? You always were lame as hell.
 

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You sound really upset. It's almost hilarious.

Doubt it, as it's 4 seconds. Really, a tech that took four seconds to travel till the end of the crater is a fast tech? By the way, that ain't "crossing Konoha". What does that even mean? When it's launching from more than half the mark of the debris.

You think it's faster than an arrow that requires an S/T tech's warp point to match it?

Handing L's? Was that some kind of a clever come back? You always were lame as hell.

Lol. I sound tired not upset. And it's 1 second not 4. Pain counted down from 5.
Lol u can't read what you went out of your way to bold and underline? It clearly says and I quote:

It's second feat is crossing chibaku crater in literally 3 seconds.

No I'll admit I got the time frame wrong. I was 1 second not 3. But hey. Another L for shelke.
 

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Lol. I sound tired not upset. And it's 1 second not 4. Pain counted down from 5.
Lol u can't read what you went out of your way to bold and underline? It clearly says and I quote:

No I'll admit I got the time frame wrong. I was 1 second not 3. But hey. Another L for shelke.

Scratch that: @bold Funny, as it's straight from Wiki - I checked it and a hilariously wrong assumption.

I am glad I rechecked it as I clearly remember I worked out its total time with someone and it came close to 3.5 to 4 seconds:

Naruto gets into a tussle with pain and kicks him into the large rock:




Naruto launches an FRS. It reaches Pain and he uses ST on it (that was thrown from outside the crater) where it is revealed that it was a shadow shuriken like use of FRS - so the time of that FRS starts there, which would be inside the crater:





Before that, Naruto uses a smoke bomb, smoke spreads outwards and upwards and then FRS appears through it. A second indeed (only a full-fledged idiot would even claim that unless you believe smoke rises up and spreads out in a second):


- If you look closely, then the dust is flying outwards and away from the tip of the edge. Which means it stopped well before it. Otherwise, this is how an FRS debris spreads out and how it actually functions:

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This is how it happened here:

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- The debris completely shoots upwards from the point it stops and spreads out sharply in all directions as it digs into the ground. Which means, it stopped somewhere at the middle of that large outward blast of dust. It never crossed all the crater and certainly didn't touch its edge. An absurd assumption.

It also stops after a certain range and expands out - the Human Path still had enough time to throw Animal Path out - Naruto didn't have enough skill to make it cross a large area then to begin with:




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So, let me guess, you made up that 1 second. It never crossed the entire crater. Not only did it start inside it, but it stopped well before the edge. And if the time of smoke bomb is taken into consideration and how long it took for the FRS to make through it, then it would roughly take FRS about 1.5 (s) to clear per half of the circle.

Yeah, it would take it about 3 seconds to cross the entire crater. I think I was pretty close.

What the hell is an L? Kindly, stop using it. It sounds pretty immature from someone who just claimed that FRS crossed Konoha, haha.
 
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Considering Naruto (Sage Mode) went up against Pain with summons and still lost. (Twice I may add) Then early-stage MS Sasuke (Killer Bee fight) would not have beaten Pain.
 

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Sasuke at the time in his current state. He would of lost even Naruto had trouble and would of lost not for his father having planned ahead if and when his son had got to the stage of going 8+ Tails.
 
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