Was Indra's search for power his destruction?

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The reason why I'm asking is because if Madara would of died sooner if not for the search for power then Itachi would of probably been his reincarnation. If that was the case then Kakashi probably would of been Ashura. If he was patient then he would of got what he wanted. Imagine Indra in Itachi? I predict that would of been the most powerful being of all time in the Naruto World.
 

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Kakashi isn't related to the Senju or Uzumaki Clan.
His chakra reserves speak for themselves
 

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The thing is reincarnations only take place among descendants. Kakashi is not a descendant of Senju or Uzumaki, so he can't be Ashura's reincarnation.

As for Itachi, reincarnations also depend upon ideals. Naruto and Sasuke were Ashura and Indra's respective reincarnations because of similarity in ideals and paths they choose. Itachi's ideals are not like Indra's.

The last thing is that both reincarnations happen together or close to each other from what we know i.e. similar age group. Hashi died a long time ago yet Ashura wasn't passed down to Naruto until Madara died and Indra went to Sasuke. So on top of other reasons like ideals, age group also matters.
 

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The thing is reincarnations only take place among descendants. Kakashi is not a descendant of Senju or Uzumaki, so he can't be Ashura's reincarnation.

As for Itachi, reincarnations also depend upon ideals. Naruto and Sasuke were Ashura and Indra's respective reincarnations because of similarity in ideals and paths they choose. Itachi's ideals are not like Indra's.

The last thing is that both reincarnations happen together or close to each other from what we know i.e. similar age group. Hashi died a long time ago yet Ashura wasn't passed down to Naruto until Madara died and Indra went to Sasuke. So on top of other reasons like ideals, age group also matters.

Uzumaki only had to do with Naruto. Indra could not predict the future and see what his Older brother Itachi would do. So your just giving opinions which is cool but I'm giving mine and I made a thread off of it. So unless you have manga facts off what you mentioned lets talk about what i'm asking about in my thread.
 

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Uzumaki only had to do with Naruto. Indra could not predict the future and see what his Older brother Itachi would do. So your just giving opinions which is cool but I'm giving mine and I made a thread off of it. So unless you have manga facts off what you mentioned lets talk about what i'm asking about in my thread.

They can know the ideals. How? IDK. But from what we know, the Sage said that Naruto's cooperation spirit and the paths he chose was the reason Ashura chose to reincarnate in Naruto which means he knew the paths Naruto would take. Manga facts, not opinions...
 

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We don't even know how transmigration works...no one ever said it had to happen at birth...we even got an example of Obito transmirating into Kakashi. Who was 30+
 

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They can know the ideals. How? IDK. But from what we know, the Sage said that Naruto's cooperation spirit and the paths he chose was the reason Ashura chose to reincarnate in Naruto which means he knew the paths Naruto would take. Manga facts, not opinions...

Manga facts with Naruto because he was born into hardship being a Jinchuriki. Sasuke wasn't born an avenger. Why do you do this on most of my threads? You just want to argue. Make your own threads if you want to go off of your theory.
 

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We don't even know how transmigration works...no one ever said it had to happen at birth...we even got an example of Obito transmirating into Kakashi. Who was 30+

He didn't transmigrate into Kakashi. He used the last of his chakra with a Jutsu from his Sharingan most likely to use the remaining Chakra he had left on earth to give Kakashi. He left once his chakra was gone.
 

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The thing is reincarnations only take place among descendants. Kakashi is not a descendant of Senju or Uzumaki, so he can't be Ashura's reincarnation.

As for Itachi, reincarnations also depend upon ideals. Naruto and Sasuke were Ashura and Indra's respective reincarnations because of similarity in ideals and paths they choose. Itachi's ideals are not like Indra's.

The last thing is that both reincarnations happen together or close to each other from what we know i.e. similar age group. Hashi died a long time ago yet Ashura wasn't passed down to Naruto until Madara died and Indra went to Sasuke. So on top of other reasons like ideals, age group also matters.

This right here.
 

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Because it's stated in the manga that Madara and Hashirama were the incarnations previous to Sasuke and Naruto. Furthermore, there can't be two incarnations alive at the same time, except if one of them had been ressurrected. Itachi and Sasuke lived at the same time. Sasuke is the incarnation. End of story.
 
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any better alternatives given the timeline? That is pretty much the point i'm trying to make.

Well Indra was the older brohter so anyone younger than Itachi would've worked like someone distantly related to Senju or Uzumaki
 

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He didn't transmigrate into Kakashi. He used the last of his chakra with a Jutsu from his Sharingan most likely to use the remaining Chakra he had left on earth to give Kakashi. He left once his chakra was gone.

That wasn't simple chakra sharing...Kakashi gained Obito's abilities for as long as Obito's soul was inside him...










If it was simple passing of Chakra...then, there was no reason for Obito to stick around







 

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Manga facts with Naruto because he was born into hardship being a Jinchuriki. Sasuke wasn't born an avenger. Why do you do this on most of my threads? You just want to argue. Make your own threads if you want to go off of your theory.

You're kind of picking on me beyond reason. I'm trying to give an explanation, and you're needlessly getting resentful. You're the one who is actually making theories. All I'm doing is proving those theories wrong, only for your bitter remarks.

Ashura's reincarnation within Naruto isn't about hardship, it's about ideals. When was Ashura in hardship?

And Sage himself said that Naruto's power of cooperation was the reason Ashura chose to reincarnation in Naruto.
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