Enduring =/= forgiveness. Have you ever wanted Naruto to fail?

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Come on.

1. Naruto is the mc

2. Pnj everywhere throughout 700 chapters

3. Same with plot holes

It's extremely obvious how naruto would be since part 1. There's zero chance for naruto to fail. Very very boring because we all knew the outcome and we all knew naruto would save the world and becomes hokage
That's why he is trash.

yu yu hakusho = MC lost in the end.
yugioh= mc lost in the end
full metal = MC didn't get all he want in the end.
Bleach = Ichjigo come to term that he can't protect everybody, he will just protect what he can.
Cowboy bebop = Spike couldn't get what he truly wanted in the end.
Out law starz = Gene thought that what he wanted but ended up what he gained throughout the series
Inyusha = wins and lost a lot of fights.
Fate/stay night = MC know he is Freaking wrong on so many levels, but still want to be justice knight hero


Naruto = Naruto win nearly every fights, always seem to be right all the time when he should be wrong, man really.....NO comment. Naruto could've become one of the best character in anime/manga history, but Kishi screwed him over with that tnj crap and destiny talk.

Naruto = he get everything he want in the end. Shit is boring.
 
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That's why he is trash.

yu yu hakusho = MC lost in the end.
yugioh= mc lost in the end
full metal = MC didn't get all he want in the end.
Bleach = Ichjigo come to term that he can't protect everybody, he will just protect what he can.
Cowboy bebop = Spike couldn't get what he truly wanted in the end.
Out law starz = Gene thought that what he wanted but ended up what he gained throughout the series
Inyusha = wins and lost a lot of fights.
Fate/stay night = MC know he is Freaking wrong on so many levels, but still want to be justice knight hero


Naruto = Naruto win nearly every fights, always seem to be right all the time when he should be wrong, man really.....NO comment. Naruto could've become one of the best character in anime/manga history, but Kishi screwed him over with that tnj crap and destiny talk.

Naruto = he get everything he want in the end. Shit is boring.
Thank you. A character that is always right is boring
 

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The problem here is that Naruto should have never praised Obito the way that he did. Tbh I really do get why Naruto said what he did. Naruto was flooded with all of Obito's memories during the tug of war and he knows Obito just as well as Obito knew himself when he said that. Obito was the type of person that Naruto would definitely look up to, but all of that sentiment doesn't cancel out the fact of all that Obito did. And in Naruto calling Obito the coolest that is exactly what Naruto was doing. He was only acknowledging the good Obito.

As for the Sasuke Naruto didn't accept anything regarding Sasuke. He just refused to let the person that was his first friend and whose pain Naruto could relate to to continue to go down that bad road.
Naruto saving Sasuke was his own selfishness and I have no problem with that.
Naruto never praised Sasuke like Obito and that is why I have no problem with Naruto forgiving Sasuke.
I'm happy you mentioned the memories s I don't have to. And I agree that he should have not gave acknowledgement in that regard especially given the backlash since it happened. I agree with the point Sasuke too. I just wanted to know that other understands Naruto's motives. That he isn't someone who would easily forgive or forget wrongdoings
Come on.

1. Naruto is the mc

2. Pnj everywhere throughout 700 chapters

3. Same with plot holes

It's extremely obvious how naruto would be since part 1. There's zero chance for naruto to fail. Very very boring because we all knew the outcome and we all knew naruto would save the world and becomes hokage
you should take the bias out of your post. Saying he's the mc and never fails is unreasonable as he has failed several times in the series.

Saying he's destined to save the world. That's the same with Sasuke's eventual change of heart.

Who actually thought vote 2 would result in a death. Relax man.
 

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He called him that becuz he also wanted to be Hokage not becuz he killed his parents use you're brain.
Yh so he is calling him the coolest just becauz he wanted to become Hokage too ? So if I was in NV, I would kill all Narutos friends then justify it becauz I wanted to be Hokage ? Use your brain.
 

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I'm happy you mentioned the memories s I don't have to. And I agree that he should have not gave acknowledgement in that regard especially given the backlash since it happened. I agree with the point Sasuke too. I just wanted to know that other understands Naruto's motives. That he isn't someone who would easily forgive or forget wrongdoings


you should take the bias out of your post. Saying he's the mc and never fails is unreasonable as he has failed several times in the series.

Saying he's destined to save the world. That's the same with Sasuke's eventual change of heart.

Who actually thought vote 2 would result in a death. Relax man.
I guess I agree. I don't think Naruto would have forgiven just anyone. He was brainwashed by the flashbacks :bdpf:
 

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I'm happy you mentioned the memories s I don't have to. And I agree that he should have not gave acknowledgement in that regard especially given the backlash since it happened. I agree with the point Sasuke too. I just wanted to know that other understands Naruto's motives. That he isn't someone who would easily forgive or forget wrongdoings


you should take the bias out of your post. Saying he's the mc and never fails is unreasonable as he has failed several times in the series.

Saying he's destined to save the world. That's the same with Sasuke's eventual change of heart.

Who actually thought vote 2 would result in a death. Relax man.
Nobody didn't. But I expected for Naruto to admit it and say it with his own mouth that shinobi system had done some serious injustice. I wanted to hear more about his plan for peace beside "teamwork". I wanted him to realize that he is only able to get that far due to being reincarnation of ashura and using the Kurama power. All we got from naruto's mouth is teamwork and you're wrong.

Honestly, I wanted a chapter of Naruto telling the the 5 kages that they need to change their way to make peace work.

Remember the talk that kenshin had at the shop after beating Makoto shishio? He talk about how Makoto shishio wasn't evil or bad. That he was fighting for what he believed in. That's what make him the same as everybody else. If we're saying he is wrong, then we're worse than Makoto shishio.

I wanted a conversation like that from naruto and the 5 kages.
 

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Yh so he is calling him the coolest just becauz he wanted to become Hokage too ? So if I was in NV, I would kill all Narutos friends then justify it becauz I wanted to be Hokage ? Use your brain.
He didn't justify it becuz he wanted to be Hokage though use you're brain. If you were in NV you would get rekted faster than the speed of light.
 

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I guess I agree. I don't think Naruto would have forgiven just anyone. He was brainwashed by the flashbacks :bdpf:
Pretty much. Those flashbacks made Naruto 're live obito's life.
Nobody didn't. But I expected for Naruto to admit it and say it with his own mouth that shinobi system had done some serious injustice. I wanted to hear more about his plan for peace beside "teamwork". I wanted him to realize that he is only able to get that far due to being reincarnation of ashura and using the Kurama power. All we got from naruto's mouth is teamwork and you're wrong.

Honestly, I wanted a chapter of Naruto telling the the 5 kages that they need to change their way to make peace work.

Remember the talk that kenshin had at the shop after beating Makoto shishio? He talk about how Makoto shishio wasn't evil or bad. That he was fighting for what he believed in. That's what make him the same as everybody else. If we're saying he is wrong, then we're worse than Makoto shishio.

I wanted a conversation like that from naruto and the 5 kages.
He realized the fault in the shinobi system in the pain arc. His plan of peace is a cooperative between major villages and Sasuke.

The rest is the fault of a rushed ending and kishimoto.
 

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He didn't justify it becuz he wanted to be Hokage though use you're brain. If you were in NV you would get rekted faster than the speed of light.
What does this have to do with what we were talking about. ur mad bro

You literally said you can kill Naruto's friends and justify it with wanting to be hokage. Come on now..
That's what Obito did tho'
 

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I wanted Naruto to fail most of the time, and I wanted Sasuke to succeed most of the time. In that manner, the largest and the most corrupt juggernaut within Shinobi system would have met its rightful and long overdue end, and the smaller villages would have received the justice they actually deserved.

Eventually, they would have thrived. The tailed beasts should have been killed or sealed away permanently for the lasting future of NV. With such volatile and destructive weapons out of Man's hand, things would have actually changed for the better. But alas ...
 
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