Minato reacted to V2 ay at full speed you retard. Smh autism is damn strong in this thread, and if reacting to an enemy at full speed after being few inches away from you isn't reflex, then I don;t know how interfering a fight of which you wasn't a part of is considered good reflex.
Minato's reflexes whilst good, aren't his strongest point. His Shunshin and FTG are what made him famous. Don't believe me? Look at how comparatively slow he was to react to Juubito's exploding orb, compared to his allies.
Sasuke had already activated Susano'o and Tobirama had already deployed a clone to deal with it, whilst Minato was still thinking.
Not taking anything away from Minato though, since he was able to react to Raikage at top speed without aid.
Correct. Not to mention the point where his FTG kneading went south and Sasuke went in to save Naruto well before he could even react properly. He was under KCM shroud then. That says a lot about this whole delusional 'fastest reflexes in the manga' yarns.
But here is the thing, Minato didn't react to a reflex based attack. It was more a bull-charge versus a single reaction that doesn't require bodily reaction; at times, none at all. If it is a game of reflex action, then he failed, twice, against teenage Bee who reacted faster than him fairly easily:
Able to react to him once:
Uses the Tentacle after Minato has already Teleported:
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Able to react to him twice:
He already had his short sword ready for the stomach plunge:
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My point being that in a reflex action versus the same game, he failed. Against Raikage, it must have been a combination of Raikage's prior warning, Minato's sensing and the fact that he didn't have to bodily react. Not taking anything away from his reaction, but, that's the full picture here.
Well someone is getting piss-ey because their thread is under fire for several reasons. I'm obviously here to discuss the topic. Suigetsu. Minato solo'd a shit tonne of shinobi and threw his own kunai several times as Kakashi's team leader & vs the stone village's army. Groups teamed up to fight legendary ninja they had no hope of defeating alone. generally in a war, each side is composed of individuals that fight other individuals on the battlefield so going by that there have been millions. You think fodder shinobi lined up 1 by 1 to try and solo the almighty edo's? No
You can tell that from a asynchronous mode of communication? Magic. Didn't do it all by himself, did he? It was a group effort. If he could, he wouldn't have asked.
Yeah, you pretty much agreed with me, so your entire effort was irrelevant. A group effort. Now you are just flailing your arms about as if swatting flies.
Yet failed against a mostly still opponent, twice (look above)? Well, he did throw out his Tentacle once. So that is movement.
This was a game of charge attack versus reflex action; a mental reaction to be precise. You never have anything bright to say, do you? Ironic, your insults.
You can tell that from a asynchronous mode of communication? Magic. Didn't do it all by himself, did he? It was a group effort. If he could, he wouldn't have asked.
Yeah, you pretty much agreed with me, so your entire effort was irrelevant. A group effort. Now you are just flailing your arms about as if swatting flies.
Wtf are you talking about? I'm taking about different occasions where he solo'd. You're getting rustled because you're getting shat on and as a result you're getting slightly more aggressive, telling people to beat it and so on when you have no counter. "Yih. So what, gtfo" kinda style lol
I didn't agree with you. I explained how millioms of people have been solo'd on and off panel and why teamwork was necessaey when it was since edo's have infinite lives a chakra. Do you understand now? 1 fodder shinobi at a time doesn't stand a chance. Your poxy futile metaphors don't render my argument useless in the slightest.
Minato's reflexes whilst good, aren't his strongest point. His Shunshin and FTG are what made him famous. Don't believe me? Look at how comparatively slow he was to react to Juubito's exploding orb, compared to his allies.
Sasuke had already activated Susano'o and Tobirama had already deployed a clone to deal with it, whilst Minato was still thinking.
Not taking anything away from Minato though, since he was able to react to Raikage at top speed without aid.
Which was proven garbage when Minato was about to strike Ay in V2 before he could do a thing
Base Raikage can dodge his own V2 speed? Ay couldn't prevent Minato from striking him down, which would have happened if Bee hadn't intervened. Raikage's reflexes come in here, which he pales in comparison to Minato. Another example is Raikage being dodged by Naruto without a reaction.
Unless you are not a complete lost cause, you can read this: Mental reaction verses foot speed. It wasn't a reflex action versus reflex action battle. Minato failed in that department against a much slower opponent (Teenage Bee). Twice. Which means that it was exactly how I stated it.
Raikage was only using his foot speed and a single punch stance. You cannot be this reaching with this absurdity? Not interested in the rest.
Wtf are you talking about? I'm taking about different occasions where he solo'd. You're getting rustled because you're getting shat on and as a result you're getting slightly more aggressive, telling people to beat it and so on when you have no counter. "Yih. So what, gtfo" kinda style lol
I didn't agree with you. I explained how millioms of people have been solo'd on and off panel and why teamwork was necessaey when it was since edo's have infinite lives a chakra. Do you understand now? 1 fodder shinobi at a time doesn't stand a chance. Your poxy futile metaphors don't render my argument useless in the slightest.
I don't think I should reply to (most of) the top paragraph, as all you have to do is look at that insufferably stupid aggression and that'll be enough. First you talk about war, now it's outside war scenarios? All right, I'll bite: Suigetsu has beaten several CS2 monsters. Does that count? I hope so.
Off panel is your sole argument? Then it's irrelevant. I never stated that Suigetsu is some god-tier ninja. That is your own wonky head reading it wrong. My argument was that his skill is not appreciated enough. That has been established.
Unless you are not a complete lost cause, you can read this: Mental reaction verses foot speed. It wasn't a reflex action versus reflex action battle. Minato failed in that department against a much slower opponent. Twice.
Raikage was only using his foot speed and a single punch stance. You cannot be this idiotic? Not interested in the rest.
There's not many people in the NV bar juubi jins oto clan and those gifted with rikudo powers that have a movement or strike speed that gives Minato an issue.
I don't think Minato even had the intention to kill Bee at all in that instance. Not to mention that was jonin Minato not when he was a kage.
Yeah remind me agin, when did minato even try to stab bee after they both stopped?yeah I think he didn't, and minato was going to succeeded if it weren't for bee's Tentacle. Minato not being able to attack bee is irrelevant to this, since
1-He didn't expect him to interfere
2- was completely focused on ay
3-Bee is much slower than V2 ay
This was a game of charge attack versus reflex action; a mental reaction to be precise. You never have anything bright to say, do you? Ironic, your insults.
There's not many people in the NV bar juubi jins oto clan and those gifted with rikudo powers that have a movement or strike speed that gives Minato an issue.
I don't think Minato even had the intention to kill Bee at all in that instance. Not to mention that was jonin Minato not when he was a kage.
Let's not over-hype Minato that much when he got bested against Teenage Bee's reflexes despite possessing FTG's huge advantage.
That is an assumption. Bee stalemated him, not once but twice. It's just a fact. He died not long after this incident. He probably stayed a Kage only for a few months. I doubt his reflex action speed multiplied.
I don't think I should reply to (most of) the top paragraph, as all you have to do is look at that insufferably stupid aggression and that'll be enough. First you talk about war, now it's outside war scenarios? All right, I'll bite: Suigetsu has beaten several CS2 monsters. Does that count? I hope so.
Off panel is your sole argument? Then it's irrelevant. I never stated that Suigetsu is some god-tier ninja. That is your own wonky head reading it wrong. My argument was that his skill is not appreciated enough. That has been established.
You are taking the piss with the bold, right? All we've been talking about is war and fighting *facepalm*
Ofc off-panel isn't my sole argument. You're just nitpicking and blowing it out of proportion to make it seem like you have an argument. Ofc 3 other giant wars definitely did happen and there were obviously plenty of 1V1's...y'know...cuz it's a frickin WAR. Nice insult my head because I have a slightly different opinion on Suigetsu's kenjutsu abilities. Ffs. How does he far vs Mifune for example?
Yeah remind me agin, when did minato even try to stab bee after they both stopped?yeah I think he didn't, and minato was going to succeeded if it weren't for bee's Tentacle. Minato not being able to attack bee is irrelevant to this, since
1-He didn't expect him to interfere
2- was completely focused on ay
3-Bee is much slower than V2 ay
Oh so you're suggesting that suigetsu moved on his without being conscious of his own movement ?lml
An image has been posted. But of course you'll put your spin to it. I am really glad you admit that Bee threw out a tentacle even when Minato was abusing FTG. Which means that in a battle of pure reflexes from both the opponents, he lost.
1- Assumption.
2- Assumption.
2- Doesn't matter, as I was talking about Reflex action from Bee only. Never even touched upon his foot speed.
No. But then again, reading and grammar is beyond you. Please, do point out any line that even remotely states that.
You are taking the piss with the bold, right? All we've been talking about is war and fighting *facepalm*
Ofc off-panel isn't my sole argument. You're just nitpicking and blowing it out of proportion to make it seem like you have an argument. Ofc 3 other giant wars definitely did happen and there were obviously plenty of 1V1's...y'know...cuz it's a frickin WAR. Nice insult my head because I have a slightly different opinion on Suigetsu's kenjutsu abilities. Ffs. How does he far vs Mifune for example?
Well someone is getting piss-ey because their thread is under fire for several reasons. I'm obviously here to discuss the topic. Suigetsu. Minato solo'd a shit tonne of shinobi and threw his own kunai several times as Kakashi's team leader & vs the stone village's army. Groups teamed up to fight legendary ninja they had no hope of defeating alone. generally in a war, each side is composed of individuals that fight other individuals on the battlefield so going by that there have been millions. You think fodder shinobi lined up 1 by 1 to try and solo the almighty edo's? No
My argument was never to state that Suigetsu is a god-tier shinobi par excellence. He has superb Kenjutsu skills and what he did speaks volumes. Suigetsu wouldn't have fought in the wars as he was not even born yet. What relevance does any of this hold? I am still scratching my head.
I'm 100% certain that this thread was not meant to bash other characters. I think it was just supposed to show that Suigetsu has great reflex speed. He is not saying he is the fastest or the strongest. That would be ludicrous. He is just stating that Suigetsu is stronger than people give him credit for.
I'm 100% certain that this thread was not meant to bash other characters. I think it was just supposed to show that Suigetsu has great reflex speed. He is not saying he is the fastest or the strongest. That would be ludicrous. He is just stating that Suigetsu is stronger than people give him credit for.
Precisely. Minato was brought in because Chee made a direct comparison between him, that folk and Ae. But Minato's poor fan-base is so irrepressibly and insufferably poverty-stricken in their comprehension and ruefully and emotionally sensitive that it completely swerved off the path.
He'd be better with another mist sword.
The executioner requires too much for him. He states how much of a pain it is to carry it long distance and sometimes has to use his hydrophication tech to swing it.
He either gets more str and stamina or find another sword.
He's meh to me.
His epilogue version is probably badass if he still has the sword or trained.
To date he's the only one who complained about that swords weight. Mind you, 4 ppl have wielded it.
He needs to quit. He not about that life, and he's never getting the twin sword from chojurou, nor is he gonna get the executioner's blade from kakashi.
An image has been posted. But of course you'll put your spin to it.
I am really glad you admit that Bee threw out a tentacle even when Minato was abusing FTG. Which means that in a battle of pure reflexes from both the opponents, he lost.
Raikage approached minato alone and just like minato told his group to stay away he expected the same, otherwise ay wouldn't have came close alone.
Besides it was clear as a day that minato wanted to eliminate ay first, I haven't even seen him looking back at the others once, and therefore your statement is completely absurd.
It does matter since bee never reacted to anything like V2, pure reflex is what you're talking about and minato did show a better feat of it than Ay who faster than bee and has a better reaction speed as well.
N
o. But then again, reading and grammar is beyond you. Please, do point out any line that even remotely states that.
Could he have, when he had a short sword aimed straight at his gut? Let's face it, your childish excuse is beyond laughable.
The rest is all assumption. Yes, Bee has reacted to and smashed V2 Ae (using Lariat rather than a straight up punch) into concrete. All Minato did was flee with quick thinking. So, I suppose you got this one wrong as well.
If you can magically translate this:
This was a game of charge attack versus reflex action; a mental reaction to be precise.
An image has been posted. But of course you'll put your spin to it. I am really glad you admit that Bee threw out a tentacle even when Minato was abusing FTG. Which means that in a battle of pure reflexes from both the opponents, he lost.
1- Assumption.
2- Assumption.
2- Doesn't matter, as I was talking about Reflex action from Bee only. Never even touched upon his foot speed.
No. But then again, reading and grammar is beyond you. Please, do point out any line that even remotely states that.
I never talked about war. Nor is it a topic of discussion.
Am I?
My argument was never to state that Suigetsu is a god-tier shinobi par excellence. He has superb Kenjutsu skills and what he did speaks volumes. Suigetsu wouldn't have fought in the wars as he was not even born yet. What relevance does any of this hold? I am still scratching my head.
