5 jonin takes Kage Gaunlet

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Location - Madara vs Gokage
Distance - 70m
Conditions - Team Jonin consist Gai (8 gates restricted) Hiashi (War arc) Kakashi (War arc) Kitsuchi & Zabuza i put zabuza because he was a jounin and has better for the team than Darui imo.


Stage 0 - 3rd Raikage and A
Stage 1 - Minato (Base) & Tobirama,
Stage 2 - 3rd raikage, Muu, 2nd Mizu,
Stage 3 - Gokage
Stage 4 - Base Hashirama (No Mokujin or wood dragon)
Stage 5 - KM Minato (No bushin)

Does These jonin defeat the Kages of History?

my opinion

The maul the the raikages kamui snipes the 3rd and hirudora ends A as he cannot dodge.

Minato and Tobirama, Kakashi and 7G Gai pressure Minato while tobirama is raped off By blinding mist Kitsuchi rock smash and Hiashi they tag team Minato after that.
Past Kage are defeated aswell Kamui snipes the 3rd Muu is Tooken out by Hiashi or Kitsuchi Hirudora destroys the clam.

Gokage lose aswell this is how i see it.

Kakashi > Onoki Gai > A Hiashi > Tsunade Kitsuchi > Gaara Zabuza < Mei leaving her getting raped.

Base Hashirama cannot survive Mountain smash or kamui snipes and a close ranged Hirudora.


KM minato is the only prolem to me because of his speed and chakra arms but he cannot defeat them all i think
 
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-They definitely beat Minato and Tobirama.
-They lose to the 3 Kage. Well, they might. It depends on Sharingan/Byakugan vs. Gengetsu's Clam Illusion.
-They might lose to the Gokage.
-They definitely lose to Hashirama.
-Gai can solo Minato if he has no clones. Add Kakashi and it's a low-mid diff win.
 

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Raikages lose, kamui snipes the Sandaime and Gai pummels the Yondaime with Hirudora.

Minato and Tobirama win. Kamui is non factor against a teleporting opponent which can exit line of sight instantly. Gai can beat either one high difficulty, but definitely not together especially when they can clone swap and hit him when he goes for the clone, or when he goes for one the other teleports there and lands a hit on Gai while he's attacking the other. Hiashi can't react to them or land a hit, and Kitsuchi and Zabuza are non factors.

Past kages definitely win. Lightened Raikage would be too fast for Kakashi to snipe off with kamui, and he can't find Gengetsu when he's hidden by his clam's genjutsu. Raikage tanks Hirudora, and against Muu and Gengetsu Gai wouldn't know where to aim it. Hiashi ends up getting blitzed with Nukite. Kitsuchi and Zabuza are non factors as usual.

Gokage probably lose...Lightened Ay is still slower than 7th Gate Gai, who blows them up with Hirudora to the face. Mei and Tsunade get kamui sniped. Gaara can be taken out with combo where Kakashi kamuis a hole in his ultimate defense and Gai follows through with a kick to the face.

Hashirama mauls them. Gai can't take out mokujin, flower tree world puts them to sleep and wood clones counter close combat or kamui snipes.

If this is KCM Minato then he loses.
 

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Base Hashirama cannot survive Mountain smash or kamui snipes and a close ranged Hirudora.

Lmfao. Dafuq is with this BS?
 

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How does he survive it?

-Outright evades it with Shunshin.
-Hobi protects him and takes zero damage
-Mayfly.

Not sure if this is a trick question or not tbh.
 

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Hashirama loses to kamui snipe

They clear it.
 

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Kitsuchi doesn't > Gaara what are you smoking?

Kitsuchi is an Earth Release user, Gaara breaks down earth, and uses it as fuel for his sand. No earth release user can > Gaara. Ima hit that Draegod: FACT!
 

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-Outright evades it with Shunshin.
-Hobi protects him and takes zero damage
-Mayfly.

Not sure if this is a trick question or not tbh.
He's escaping with a shunsui? Ill need feats from his shunsui suggesting it can cover this much distance. Hobi and mayfly are counter but bruh Hashirama gets raped by these Jounin he can get sniped or blitzed by Gai and then sniped.
Raikages lose, kamui snipes the Sandaime and Gai pummels the Yondaime with Hirudora.

Minato and Tobirama win. Kamui is non factor against a teleporting opponent which can exit line of sight instantly. Gai can beat either one high difficulty, but definitely not together especially when they can clone swap and hit him when he goes for the clone, or when he goes for one the other teleports there and lands a hit on Gai while he's attacking the other. Hiashi can't react to them or land a hit, and Kitsuchi and Zabuza are non factors.
Minato and Tobirama gets spanked. Gai blitz and pounds Minato face in. Tobirama gets gangraped and negged by the rest.

Past kages definitely win. Lightened Raikage would be too fast for Kakashi to snipe off with kamui, and he can't find Gengetsu when he's hidden by his clam's genjutsu. Raikage tanks Hirudora, and against Muu and Gengetsu Gai wouldn't know where to aim it. Hiashi ends up getting blitzed with Nukite. Kitsuchi and Zabuza are non factors as usual.
Not surprised that your overrating the 3rd Raikage and Muu. Lightened raikage gets blown back via Hirudora and before he has time to get up he gets his head sniped off. Also if Kakashi decides to snipe from the start he's caught Kamui snipe is much faster than Muu lighting him up and he'd still have to put on his v1 armor which isn't happening considering Kakashi managed to sniped 2 susanoo arrow coming at him while being atleast 15ft away. Once the claim is summoned Hiashi sends it flying via air palm.

Gokage probably lose...Lightened Ay is still slower than 7th Gate Gai, who blows them up with Hirudora to the face. Mei and Tsunade get kamui sniped. Gaara can be taken out with combo where Kakashi kamuis a hole in his ultimate defense and Gai follows through with a kick to the face.
Smart man.

Hashirama mauls them. Gai can't take out mokujin, flower tree world puts them to sleep and wood clones counter close combat or kamui snipes.

If this is KCM Minato then he loses.
Hashirama gets blitzed or sniped simply Mokujin or flower tree world is never getting out.
 
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He's escaping with a shunsui? Ill need feats from his shunsui suggesting it can cover this much distance. Hobi and mayfly are counter but bruh Hashirama gets raped by these Jounin he can get sniped or blitzed by Gai and then sniped.

He was already casually crossing Mountain length Distances in his battle against Madara. Evading Earth Sandwich isn't going to be hard.

Your pic doesn't work btw.

And no, he doesn't get raped.

1. Mokuton blocks Kakashi's LoS.
2. He won't even be able to snipe from 70m away due to his eyesight.
3. Mokuton Clones=Kakashi can't locate real Hashirama=Kakashi never gets a snipe off.

And Gai can't blitz from 70m. Thus Hashirama claps his hands, makes the flower world and puts them to sleep and crushes the people who get caught in it. Which would almost be all of them since:

-Gai, Kitsuchi, Zabuza and Hiashi can't fly.
-Kakashi can warp the other dimension, but at most he'll only take 1 or 2 with him before the forest is complete.

Even if they aren't crushed, they can't fly above the forest nor do they have the firepower to completely destroy it. So the pollen knocks them all out, allowing Hashirama to finish them with little effort. They get molested.
 

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they get negged by tobirama by himself. tell me how do they defend against swag release????
 

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He was already casually crossing Mountain length Distances in his battle against Madara. Evading Earth Sandwich isn't going to be hard.

Your pic doesn't work btw.

And no, he doesn't get raped.

1. Mokuton blocks Kakashi's LoS.
2. He won't even be able to snipe from 70m away due to his eyesight.
3. Mokuton Clones=Kakashi can't locate real Hashirama=Kakashi never gets a snipe off.

And Gai can't blitz from 70m. Thus Hashirama claps his hands, makes the flower world and puts them to sleep and crushes the people who get caught in it. Which would almost be all of them since:

-Gai, Kitsuchi, Zabuza and Hiashi can't fly.
-Kakashi can warp the other dimension, but at most he'll only take 1 or 2 with him before the forest is complete.

Even if they aren't crushed, they can't fly above the forest nor do they have the firepower to completely destroy it. So the pollen knocks them all out, allowing Hashirama to finish them with little effort. They get molested.
Base Hashirama isn't reacting to Gai. Once he goes for Flower tree world Gai punches him in the air followed Hirudora which would obliterate Hashirama base body. . If flower tree would comes out Kakashi warp his team out of it's aoe and Kitsuchi proceed to smash it via mountain sandwich.
 

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Base Hashirama isn't reacting to Gai. Once he goes for Flower tree world Gai punches him in the air followed Hirudora which would obliterate Hashirama base body. . If flower tree would comes out Kakashi warp his team out of it's aoe and Kitsuchi proceed to smash it via mountain sandwich.

When he's on par with EMS Madara in reaction speed and the distance in 70m? And when Gai's movement speed alone isn't even a tier above the likes of Ay and KCM Naruto? Yes, he easily reacts to Gai with a clap of his hands from 70m away. What you are showing me in your link isn't even close to being evidence for your claim.

1. Madara wasn't blitzed or pressured by Gai's movement speed alone, so don't even bring that as evidence.
2. Not 70 meters. :lol

Since when was Mountain Sandwhich big enough to smash the whole of the forest?

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That Susanoo is near Bijuu Size, meaning it's near the size of the Mazo. Compare the Mazo and the Susanoo to the forest, and then compare it to the Mountain Sandwich and you'll see which one is larger. What's worse is that the above panel only shows a part of the forest. The pollen spreads all over, and DB & wiki state that Hashirama can control where it goes.

So either they stay out of the battlefield and lose by disqualification, attrition, or whatever else applies, or they go into the forest and get knocked out. Not to mention nothing stops Hashirama from forming a second forest to catch them.
 

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Gokage probably lose...Lightened Ay is still slower than 7th Gate Gai, who blows them up with Hirudora to the face. Mei and Tsunade get kamui sniped. Gaara can be taken out with combo where Kakashi kamuis a hole in his ultimate defense and Gai follows through with a kick to the face.

In that same scan it was only due to Gaara's sand that Kakashi was able to Kamui Snipe from that far up. It ain't happening fam, Gaara's aerial capabilities > Kakashi, and Gai's possible attempts @ Victory.

Gaara is literally the ultimate support. He'd have his whole team aerial, not to mention his quick Sand Clone feints as seen @ Ohnoki. The whole terrain would become a desert.

Even worse, Unorth made the distance 70 meters. Lmfao Gaara, and co wreck these dudes.
 

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When he's on par with EMS Madara in reaction speed and the distance in 70m? And when Gai's movement speed alone isn't even a tier above the likes of Ay and KCM Naruto? Yes, he easily reacts to Gai with a clap of his hands from 70m away. What you are showing me in your link isn't even close to being evidence for your claim.

1. Madara wasn't blitzed or pressured by Gai's movement speed alone, so don't even bring that as evidence.
2. Not 70 meters. :lol

Since when was Mountain Sandwhich big enough to smash the whole of the forest?

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That Susanoo is near Bijuu Size, meaning it's near the size of the Mazo. Compare the Mazo and the Susanoo to the forest, and then compare it to the Mountain Sandwich and you'll see which one is larger. What's worse is that the above panel only shows a part of the forest. The pollen spreads all over, and DB & wiki state that Hashirama can control where it goes.

So either they stay out of the battlefield and lose by disqualification, attrition, or whatever else applies, or they go into the forest and get knocked out. Not to mention nothing stops Hashirama from forming a second forest to catch them.
Edo Madara barely reacted to Gai so him having EMS Madara reaction doesn't help his case at all. Gai appear in-front of Madara instantly which is why he was so shocked. Gates improves running speed and striking speed so don't give that that BS how dare you compare 7th gate gai to KM Naruto speed who couldn't even best Itachi in cqc. That susanoo isn't no were near bijuu size since we see BM Kurama towering over Madara's standing susnaoo .( ). Please i can' take you serious if you think Madara standing susanoo is the size of the the gedo mazo is still much bigger than Bijuu. Gedo mazo on it's knee's still stand atleast 2x the size of Hachibi. .( ). I should slap the piss out of your for claiming this BS. Since it dwarfed the Gedo Mazo.
 
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He was already casually crossing Mountain length Distances in his battle against Madara. Evading Earth Sandwich isn't going to be hard.

Your pic doesn't work btw.

And no, he doesn't get raped.

1. Mokuton blocks Kakashi's LoS.
2. He won't even be able to snipe from 70m away due to his eyesight.
3. Mokuton Clones=Kakashi can't locate real Hashirama=Kakashi never gets a snipe off.

And Gai can't blitz from 70m. Thus Hashirama claps his hands, makes the flower world and puts them to sleep and crushes the people who get caught in it. Which would almost be all of them since:

-Gai, Kitsuchi, Zabuza and Hiashi can't fly.
-Kakashi can warp the other dimension, but at most he'll only take 1 or 2 with him before the forest is complete.

Even if they aren't crushed, they can't fly above the forest nor do they have the firepower to completely destroy it. So the pollen knocks them all out, allowing Hashirama to finish them with little effort. They get molested.

I don't agree with the bold. Kakashi's kamui would work faster than any pop up mokuton or earth release. Mokuton is not a valid counter for kamui.

EDIT: The long distance is what doesn't allow kakashi to kamui warp. My bad
 
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I don't agree with the bold. Kakashi's kamui would work faster than any pop up mokuton or earth release. Mokuton is not a valid counter for kamui.

EDIT: The long distance is what doesn't allow kakashi to kamui warp
Mokuton can block Kakashi's LoS with the distance as you just commented on. Same with Gaara's sand. The distance heavily f*cks the opposition.
 

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Mokuton can block Kakashi's LoS with the distance as you just commented on. Same with Gaara's sand. The distance heavily f*cks the opposition.

Exactly. Kakashi's hax is trolled by the distance the OP gives.
 

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Edo Madara barely reacted to Gai so him having EMS Madara reaction doesn't help his case at all. Madara appear in-front of Gai instantly which why he was so shocked. Gates improves running speed and striking speed so don't give that that BS how dare you compare 7th gate gai to KM Naruto speed who couldn't even best Itachi in cqc. That susanoo isn't no were near bijuu size since we see BM Kurama towering over Madara's standing susnaoo .( ). Please i can' take you serious if you think Madara standing susanoo is the size of the the gedo mazo is still much bigger than Bijuu. Gedo mazo on it's knee's still stand atleast 2x the size of Hachibi. .( ). I should slap the piss out of your for claiming this BS. Since it dwarfed the Gedo Mazo.

Bold was never shown as Edo Madara never fought Gai, and I know you can't be talking about JJ Madara because Madara was casually evading Gai's attacks by backpeddling, didn't even use Shunshin or flight. The only thing he was too slow to do was strike, and that is irrelevant to movement speed thus irrelevant to my point.

-Gates improving running speed proves what again? Oh wait. It proves that Gated Gai>Base Gai in speed. Not that 7G Gai can blitz Hashirama from 70 meters away.

-Why are you using a CQC fight from Naruto as evidence his Shunshin is slower than Gai's top speed by a lot?
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-That Susanoo is obviously smaller than the one Madara used as an Edo against the Gokage. [ ] [ ]

The only thing you have a point about is the Gedo Mazo being around 2 or 3x the size of Hachibi. Good thing that Gedo Mazo being 2-3x larger than this:

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Doesn't make it anywhere near this size:

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Thus, as usual and as expected, you have no point.
 

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I don't agree with the bold. Kakashi's kamui would work faster than any pop up mokuton or earth release. Mokuton is not a valid counter for kamui.

EDIT: The long distance is what doesn't allow kakashi to kamui warp. My bad

Madara created an entire forest so fast that Tsunade said it was in an instant. This large branch was formed nigh instantly. [ ] Regardless of the distance, Kamui is still blocked.
 
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