Hiashi vs SM Naruto

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Damn you're right. Why did naruto waste so much time against Pain? Godly Hiashi would have cleaned them from second 1.1

That terrible logic lmfao. And then you remember Preta is there.
 

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That terrible logic lmfao. And then you remember Preta is there.

Terrible logic in you thinking that Hiashi beats SM Naruto with air vaccum.
 

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Terrible logic in you thinking that Hiashi beats SM Naruto with air vaccum.

I genuinely could not care less what you think about my opinion. Either give me a reason as to why it doesn't one shot Pain Arc SM Naruto or agree.
 

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It's official the Hyuga's have become the most overrated characters.
 

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I genuinely could not care less what you think about my opinion. Either give me a reason as to why it doesn't one shot Pain Arc SM Naruto or agree.

Okay.

Naruto used Kage bunshin to overcome Shinra tensei (which can push away 3 boss summons away). He uses the same tactic against Hiashi's attack.

But of course your Hiashi's fanboyism didn't let you see this.
 

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Naruto could endure Shinra tensei (which sent 3 boss summons flying away), he can endure air palm. Please think before posting your fanboy nonsense.
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But of course, i'm waiting for you to say that Air palm > Shinra tensei or that naruto won't be on time to make the clones... it's you after all.

Black panther speed blitzes Zabuza dude, really. It doesn't matter if zetsu dodged it, lmao.

Naruto shits on Hiashi all day every day of the week.
 

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Naruto could endure Shinra tensei (which sent 3 boss summons flying away), he can endure air palm. Please think before posting your fanboy nonsense.
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But of course, i'm waiting for you to say that Air palm > Shinra tensei or that naruto won't be on time to make the clones... it's you after all.

Black panther speed blitzes Zabuza dude, really. It doesn't matter if zetsu dodged it, lmao.

Naruto shits on Hiashi all day every day of the week.

EDIT: And he also f*cks her daughter.
 
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Okay.

Naruto used Kage bunshin to overcome Shinra tensei (which can push away 3 boss summons away). He uses the same tactic against Hiashi's attack.

But of course your Hiashi's fanboyism didn't let you see this.

So now Kage Bunshin's and Toads are >Juubi's tail? I can tell that you are very bright. Also, the ST used on the toads was far stronger then the one used on Naruto. Should be obvious since the first ST Deva used failed to move them, but the next one was enhanced by more chakra and thus pushed them 100's of meters away.

More like I was too intelligent to even have thoughts about something this idiotic.

You read manga from left to right, that's on you, not me :lmao:
 

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So now Kage Bunshin's and Toads are >Juubi's tail? I can tell that you are very bright. Also, the ST used on the toads was far stronger then the one used on Naruto. Should be obvious since the first ST Deva used failed to move them, but the next one was enhanced by more chakra and thus pushed them 100's of meters away.

More like I was too intelligent to even have thoughts about something this idiotic.

You read manga from left to right, that's on you, not me :lmao:

Toads? You mean boss toads and 3 of them? lmao.

The bold is pure speculation... :rolleyes:

Pain was strugglin against naruto for his life, but hey, he decided to use a soft ST against him.

ST> Hiashi's overrated air palm. Naruto overcomes it, and zetsu dodged black panther.
 

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Toads? You mean boss toads and 3 of them? lmao.

The bold is pure speculation... :rolleyes:

Pain was strugglin against naruto for his life, but hey, he decided to use a soft ST against him.

ST> Hiashi's overrated air palm. Naruto overcomes it, and zetsu dodged black panther.

My god..

Initial Shinra Tensei [ ]. Second Shinra Tensei [ ]. Are you saying the two ST were using the same amount of repulsive force? I beg to god you don't think Naruto's clones can prevent such a Shinra Tensei smh.

It's called plot, get over it.

Uh no it's not. No ST barring CST is even doing anything to a Juubi Tail being swung. Not gonna bother with off topic random shit you're bringing here.
 

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My god..

Initial Shinra Tensei [ ]. Second Shinra Tensei [ ]. Are you saying the two ST were using the same amount of repulsive force? I beg to god you don't think Naruto's clones can prevent such a Shinra Tensei smh.

It's called plot, get over it.

Uh no it's not. No ST barring CST is even doing anything to a Juubi Tail being swung. Not gonna bother with off topic random shit you're bringing here.

As a corredt debater, i conceede when i'm proven wrong. The shinra tensei naruto surpassed is not the same used against the frogs.

I have a question. How's that pushing back force (hiashi's air palm) hurting naruto? If naruto is sent flying, he can make kage bunshin while on the air to cushion the drop. Air palm is a pushing force. It pushes back the enemy with a large amount of force, so the person gets injuries when clashes again with the floor at a high speed because the force gave him more acceleration, but if naruto can stop the violent drop against the floor, he can survive the air palm.

Edit: I'm mentioning the black panther thing because i never got to see your last tought about it since you didn't quote back
 

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As a corredt debater, i conceede when i'm proven wrong. The shinra tensei naruto surpassed is not the same used against the frogs.

I have a question. How's that pushing back force (hiashi's air palm) hurting naruto? If naruto is sent flying, he can make kage bunshin while on the air to cushion the drop. Air palm is a pushing force. It pushes back the enemy with a large amount of force, so the person gets injuries when clashes again with the floor at a high speed because the force gave him more acceleration, but if naruto can stop the violent drop against the floor, he can survive the air palm.

Edit: I'm mentioning the black panther thing because i never got to see your last tought about it since you didn't quote back

It's not the drop which kills him, it's the impact that was capable of slapping a Juubi tail away. Naruto has no way of tanking such an attack on impact, not a chance in hell. The impact being able to overpower the momentum of the Juubi's tail should be more then enough proof that Naruto would die on contact with it.
 

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It's not the drop which kills him, it's the impact that was capable of slapping a Juubi tail away. Naruto has no way of tanking such an attack on impact, not a chance in hell. The impact being able to overpower the momentum of the Juubi's tail should be more then enough proof that Naruto would die on contact with it.

Lol. Air Palm works just like Shinra Tensei. You keep going on about this Juubi tail feat like it's some amazing feat, when in reality he repelled a Bijuu sized thing less than 50m into the air. That only leaves the speed to factor into the amount of force it carries, and if fodders, albeit cloaked, were able to react. It's not top tier in speed.

Air Palm might damage Naruto, but it killing him on impact is nonsense.
 

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I love how simply pushing back a large object is enough for Hiashi to be a kage-level guy or something.

Naruto shit.
 

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Lol. Air Palm works just like Shinra Tensei. You keep going on about this Juubi tail feat like it's some amazing feat, when in reality he repelled a Bijuu sized thing less than 50m into the air. That only leaves the speed to factor into the amount of force it carries, and if fodders, albeit cloaked, were able to react. It's not top tier in speed.

Air Palm might damage Naruto, but it killing him on impact is nonsense.

This^^

No "impact" we already saw how air palm works in Neji vs Kisame. Cut the crap apex that won't kill Naruto

Naruto can cushion the drop. And rapes Hiashi after it.
 

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Lol. Air Palm works just like Shinra Tensei. You keep going on about this Juubi tail feat like it's some amazing feat, when in reality he repelled a Bijuu sized thing less than 50m into the air. That only leaves the speed to factor into the amount of force it carries, and if fodders, albeit cloaked, were able to react. It's not top tier in speed.

Air Palm might damage Naruto, but it killing him on impact is nonsense.

It works nothing like Shinra Tensei. One is a gravitational force and the other is compressed air. Gravity would have no large impact since it only moves you via a gravitational force, it's not anything that's hitting you similarly to how compressed air would. Please don't compare them because the ST would only damage you by sending you into the ground. Air Palm hits you via compressed air which is basically like a massive indestructible brick smashing into you at massive speed. And it is an amazing feat. The Juubi's tail would have tremendous momentum, it being Bijuu sized is not as relevant as it moving at extreme speed (with huge mass). If Hiashi's Air Palm could repel that via impact then there's no way Naruto is surviving that. It being reacted to doesn't mean anything because he's not dodging something that large.
 

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It works nothing like Shinra Tensei. One is a gravitational force and the other is compressed air. Gravity would have no large impact since it only moves you via a gravitational force, it's not anything that's hitting you similarly to how compressed air would. Please don't compare them because the ST would only damage you by sending you into the ground. Air Palm hits you via compressed air which is basically like a massive indestructible brick smashing into you at massive speed. And it is an amazing feat. The Juubi's tail would have tremendous momentum, it being Bijuu sized is not as relevant as it moving at extreme speed (with huge mass). If Hiashi's Air Palm could repel that via impact then there's no way Naruto is surviving that. It being reacted to doesn't mean anything because he's not dodging something that large.

Then I'll give you the first point, but the rest is wrong.

1. Extreme speed? I don't know what Manga you've been reading but V2 Juubi and up's attacks are nowhere near a level of speed where you'd call them extreme. Cloaked fodder being fast enough to easily react to them is proof of that. There is literally nothing supporting Naruto getting killed by air palm.

Juubi's Mokuton Sashiki rain was moving faster than it's own physical attacks, as shown by Neji only being fast enough to take a hit instead of actually doing something about it like he did to to the tail. Some fodders were dodging and reacting, the characters with names who are still weak as hell were reacting too. Juubi's physical attacks are not fast. They only get slower as it gets larger.

2. Lol stop. Naruto can't dodge because it's "too large"? Not even sure if serious with this nonsense. It's the same size as the Juubi's hand, and the Juubi's hand is only a little bigger than Bijuu. And the distance is 40m. And Naruto knows all about it. Not even close to being too large nor is Naruto getting hit.

Let's not forget that it's only speed feat is intercepting the Juubi's attack, and no, that doesn't make it faster or on par in speed.
 
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