Kisame vs MS Sasuke

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Kakuzu was handling Kakashi, Ino, & Choji @ the same damn time fool. Kakashi, and Gai were stated to be equals, so reverse this scenario:

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Look @ the little shark bitch taking that L. That would be Kakuzu vs Kisame. Except Kakuzu would be tentacle raping sharkbait.

Lmfao look at this dude, he got f*cked up by Yamato :lmao: Lookin like a little submissive b**ch.

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Kakuzu stay winning.

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Man, these two must be God-tier then, with how they completely destroyed Kakuzu no diff :rolleyes: Man, believe what you want, Gai'd sweep Kakuzu up too, neg diff'd by the sixth gate.

Lmao! Funny that you mention being made into a lil bich. Kakuzu gets tossed around by everyone. Careful proof, this might give you a heart attack.

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Dude's limit is a genin, two-three chuunin, and Kakashi. Kisame straight up took on a Mokuton user, and two perfect Jins along with the best taijutsu user in the manga. It ain't comperable.

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Man, these two must be God-tier then, with how they completely destroyed Kakuzu no diff :rolleyes: Man, believe what you want, Gai'd sweep Kakuzu up too, neg diff'd by the sixth gate.

Lmao! Funny that you mention being made into a lil bich. Kakuzu gets tossed around by everyone. Careful proof, this might give you a heart attack.

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Dude's limit is a genin, two-three chuunin, and Kakashi. Kisame straight up took on a Mokuton user, and two perfect Jins along with the best taijutsu user in the manga. It ain't comperable.

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Kisame's opinion on Kakuzu's dick:

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Please learn to read the manga. Bee says it can't take the heat, meaning the heat is too much for it to handle. Hence I suggested more of the fire could've been absorbed, but was left because it couldn't take more of it (which ends up making sense of his statement).
This is you reaching the **** out. This is the matter of preference. It's like me being forced to eat bitter food, when I hate that crap. Katon isn't Samehada's preferred food. But it still will eat when you make it.
 

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Smh what's worse, getting beat up by a green ass monster that gave JJ Madara some trouble, while being weakened, or taking L from Base Naruturd? I'll let that hang for a second, just to comprehend the severity of the L.
Kisame negs Kakuzu and Gaara.
 

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Smh what's worse, getting beat up by a green ass monster that gave JJ Madara some trouble, while being weakened, or taking L from Base Naruturd? I'll let that hang for a second, just to comprehend the severity of the L.
Kisame negs Kakuzu and Gaara.
Getting wrecked in every on panel fight you ever took part of, and being too insignificant to be remembered by your enemy.

Gai destroyed Kisame every chance he got while Kakuzu was making Kakashi his plaything, the same guy Itachi warned Kisame not to fight.
 

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Smh what's worse, getting beat up by a green ass monster that gave JJ Madara some trouble, while being weakened, or taking L from Base Naruturd? I'll let that hang for a second, just to comprehend the severity of the L.
Kisame negs Kakuzu and Gaara.
Look @ this fool. I outta stomp you in a debate, you lucky you're my son.
 

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I think Kisame, Sasuke's ama spam won't be too good under 20+ feet of water.
Ignoring that Killer Bee murked Sasuke + Karin healing + Jugo healing, and Kisame made Bee his *****.
Kisame's sword eats through the chakra construct Susanoo, tbh, considering it eats a tailed beast's chakra
on contact.

Oh, and Kakuzu shits on Kisame, due to range, avoiding contact with Kisame's sword... mostly...
I guess o:
 

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Fair enough, guess I won't be writing wallies if that's the case. Sasuke still wins though, Susano arrows can replace Amaterasu and Hawk trolls Kisame.
 

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Fair enough, guess I won't be writing wallies if that's the case. Sasuke still wins though, Susano arrows can replace Amaterasu and Hawk trolls Kisame.
With full intel, Kisame counters both comfortably. Hawk ain't trolling Kisame lmao, it's quite the contrary. One can survive on his chakra alone for like weeks, while the other poofs within like an hour.
 

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With full intel, Kisame counters both comfortably. Hawk ain't trolling Kisame lmao, it's quite the contrary. One can survive on his chakra alone for like weeks, while the other poofs within like an hour.
It goes with these 2 possible outcomes:
1. Kisame uses large scale Suiton and Sasuke flies away. Sasuke is just watching with no chakra expenditure while Kisame is controlling a gigantic mass of water for nothing. Yes, he has Bijuu like reserves, but that doesn't mean he is immune to depleting his chakra when using jutsu on WD's scale. He's not depleting his chakra for weeks when using average scale jutsu. When he's using jutsu like 1000 sharks, WD and Daikodan he's most definitely depleting early on. Naruto ran out of chakra like two times within several hours of the war arc because he spammed large scale jutsu, and his chakra is 100x that of Kisame's.

2. Kisame decides to not use large scale Suiton's and Sasuke flies up with his hawk. Sasuke jumps off and 360 no scopes Kisame with Susano arrow and Kisame dies a miserable death.
 

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It goes with these 2 possible outcomes:
1. Kisame uses large scale Suiton and Sasuke flies away. Sasuke is just watching with no chakra expenditure while Kisame is controlling a gigantic mass of water for nothing. Yes, he has Bijuu like reserves, but that doesn't mean he is immune to depleting his chakra when using jutsu on WD's scale. He's not depleting his chakra for weeks when using average scale jutsu. When he's using jutsu like 1000 sharks, WD and Daikodan he's most definitely depleting early on. Naruto ran out of chakra like two times within several hours of the war arc because he spammed large scale jutsu, and his chakra is 100x that of Kisame's.


2. Kisame decides to not use large scale Suiton's and Sasuke flies up with his hawk. Sasuke jumps off and 360 no scopes Kisame with Susano arrow and Kisame dies a miserable death.
2 Bad Naruto depleted his chakra "twice" in war, but not Kurama's until Vote2,
once he started running on Kurama he was popping out justu for days.
-Cough- Kurama who's a tailed beast, with tailed beast like reserves, which
Kisame is compared to.
 

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2 Bad Naruto depleted his chakra "twice" in war, but not Kurama's until Vote2,
once he started running on Kurama he was popping out justu for days.
-Cough- Kurama who's a tailed beast, with tailed beast like reserves, which
Kisame is compared to.
Don't be stupid, Naruto was using Kurama's chakra and Kurama said he needs to stop using his chakra since he needs to regenerate it. VOTE2 is irrelevant because he's mainly using Rikudo chakra.

Kurama is a tailed beast in the same way Ichibi is a tailed beast. Nothing whatsoever indicates his chakra is comparable to the most powerful tailed beast. 100% Kurama's is a sole Bijuu and his chakra alone is larger then all other 8 tailed beasts combined. Naruto posses 50% Kurama which is still overwhelmingly superior to all the other Bijuu. 30% Kisame was compared to Naruto's chakra, so 100% Kisame is 3.3x Naruto's chakra. Naruto's chakra is a speck in front of Kurama's, so Kisame is 3.3 specks compared to Kurama's.
 

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Don't be stupid, Naruto was using Kurama's chakra and Kurama said he needs to stop using his chakra since he needs to regenerate it. VOTE2 is irrelevant because he's mainly using Rikudo chakra.

Kurama is a tailed beast in the same way Ichibi is a tailed beast. Nothing whatsoever indicates his chakra is comparable to the most powerful tailed beast. 100% Kurama's is a sole Bijuu and his chakra alone is larger then all other 8 tailed beasts combined. Naruto posses 50% Kurama which is still overwhelmingly superior to all the other Bijuu. 30% Kisame was compared to Naruto's chakra, so 100% Kisame is 3.3x Naruto's chakra. Naruto's chakra is a speck in front of Kurama's, so Kisame is 3.3 specks compared to Kurama's.
Okay, Papi.:bdpf:
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It goes with these 2 possible outcomes:
1. Kisame uses large scale Suiton and Sasuke flies away. Sasuke is just watching with no chakra expenditure while Kisame is controlling a gigantic mass of water for nothing. Yes, he has Bijuu like reserves, but that doesn't mean he is immune to depleting his chakra when using jutsu on WD's scale. He's not depleting his chakra for weeks when using average scale jutsu. When he's using jutsu like 1000 sharks, WD and Daikodan he's most definitely depleting early on. Naruto ran out of chakra like two times within several hours of the war arc because he spammed large scale jutsu, and his chakra is 100x that of Kisame's.

2. Kisame decides to not use large scale Suiton's and Sasuke flies up with his hawk. Sasuke jumps off and 360 no scopes Kisame with Susano arrow and Kisame dies a miserable death.
Water shockwave isn't on the same scale of Great Water Shockwave. There is nothing to maintain after the jutsu is released, and even then, 30% Kisame "maintained" it for the duration of his fight without a single dent in his reserves. Nevermind 100%. And the jutsu can be released and reused regardless. Hawk soon poofs, and then if you want to suggest Sasuke can simply resummon it; gonna need some manga pr00f please.

If there is no water, then Kisame is underground. GGGGG
 

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Water shockwave isn't on the same scale of Great Water Shockwave. There is nothing to maintain after the jutsu is released, and even then, 30% Kisame "maintained" it for the duration of his fight without a single dent in his reserves. Nevermind 100%. And the jutsu can be released and reused regardless. Hawk soon poofs, and then if you want to suggest Sasuke can simply resummon it; gonna need some manga pr00f please.

If there is no water, then Kisame is underground. GGGGG
Never suggested it was. You need to keep control of the Suiton or it would just disperse and become a flat sheet of water. Kisame controls it with his chakra continuously, hence he can reform his water into Water Dome, etc. Not seeing how you know 30% Kisame's chakra reserves weren't dented by it either, seems like pure speculation to me. And if 100% Kisame thinks using the Water Shockwave version will help him in this fight then he's doing something wrong, because nothing short of his Great Water Shockwave will be affecting Sasuke. And that jutsu would take considerable amount of chakra. I don't need proof of him being able to re-summon it because it's never going to come to that.

Susano arrow one shots, Enton arrow one shots, Genjutsu one shots, v4 Susano one shots, etc. Inb4 Daikodan shits on Susano argument. No limits fallacy if you think it can absorb anything more then a v2 Susano (since I'll need some manga pr00f please that it can). Please don't forget the fact that Daikodan only absorbs things that it's consuming, nothing is stopping Sasuke from jumping above it and smacking it with Susano from the outside to caught it in half. The outside of Daikodan doesn't absorb chakra after all, and the absorption is implied to take time. And underground Kisame isn't countering Susano arrow since Kisame turns the ground into fluid, and Sharingan can see him underground. Thus the arrow goes right through the fluid ground and smashes Kisame, similarly to how he anticipated the location COFRS would be and hit it with an arrow (Sharingan precision).
 

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Never suggested it was. You need to keep control of the Suiton or it would just disperse and become a flat sheet of water. Kisame controls it with his chakra continuously, hence he can reform his water into Water Dome, etc. Not seeing how you know 30% Kisame's chakra reserves weren't dented by it either, seems like pure speculation to me. And if 100% Kisame thinks using the Water Shockwave version will help him in this fight then he's doing something wrong, because nothing short of his Great Water Shockwave will be affecting Sasuke. And that jutsu would take considerable amount of chakra. I don't need proof of him being able to re-summon it because it's never going to come to that.

Susano arrow one shots, Enton arrow one shots, Genjutsu one shots, v4 Susano one shots, etc. Inb4 Daikodan shits on Susano argument. No limits fallacy if you think it can absorb anything more then a v2 Susano (since I'll need some manga pr00f please that it can). Please don't forget the fact that Daikodan only absorbs things that it's consuming, nothing is stopping Sasuke from jumping above it and smacking it with Susano from the outside to caught it in half. The outside of Daikodan doesn't absorb chakra after all, and the absorption is implied to take time. And underground Kisame isn't countering Susano arrow since Kisame turns the ground into fluid, and Sharingan can see him underground. Thus the arrow goes right through the fluid ground and smashes Kisame, similarly to how he anticipated the location COFRS would be and hit it with an arrow (Sharingan precision).
If Sasuke jumps out the Susano'o falls and the GSB aims towards wherever Sasuke went.....
 
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