Kisame vs MS Sasuke

[RustledJimmies]

Lord Pissame never loses.

 

[RedRobin]

I dont see a counter for GSB as it will absorb Susano, arrows and amatersu before exploding on Sasuke.

 

[Blunt]

I dont see a counter for GSB.

There is none, unless Sasuke fly's around on his Hawk all day, which is useless.

 

[Apêx1]

Amaterasu one shots smh. Inb4 people try to say Samehada can absorb it. Full intel allows him to stay out of WD range via Hawk.

 

[Zexion~]

Amaterasu one shots smh. Inb4 people try to say Samehada can absorb it. Full intel allows him to stay out of WD range via Hawk.

How does it one shot him exactly? Fused Kisame absorbs it on contact, and samehada could either absorb it itself or fuse with him thus making the absoprtion possible.


How is he going to get out of its range when the water dome is made near instantly? Unless you're saying he sits on his hawk all day which is useless.

 

[King Of Pop]

kisame isnt stomping jack, wtf am i reading here?

 

[Apêx1]

How does it one shot him exactly? Fused Kisame absorbs it on contact, and samehada could either absorb it itself or fuse with him thus making the absoprtion possible.


How is he going to get out of its range when the water dome is made near instantly? Unless you're saying he sits on his hawk all day which is useless.

Pretty sure he'd still be incapable of absorbing heat since his absorptive capabilities are entirely due to Samehada. He simply amplifies them, but everything else should remain the same, including the heat disadvantage.

Water Dome is not made near instantly, a large water source needs to be made first, followed by the Water Dome being formed. Sasuke jumps upwards and onto his hawk far faster then WD happens.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Amaterasu is pathetic compared to the chakra absorption rate of Samehada.

 

[Apêx1]

Amaterasu is pathetic compared to the chakra absorption rate of Samehada.

It's not about the amount of chakra, it's about Samehada not being able to absorb regular heat effectively.

 

[Lord Tywin]

It's not about the amount of chakra, it's about Samehada not being able to absorb regular heat effectively.

what? what was it doing against Itachi then? Then we're talking about Kisame here, who isn't taking any shit from Samehada.

 

[Apêx1]

what? what was it doing against Itachi then? Then we're talking about Kisame here, who isn't taking any shit from Samehada.

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]. Amaterasu contains far more chakra then that Katon, and that Katon couldn't be absorbed completely. Now factor in the difference in heat and you'll realise Amaterasu is not being absorbed at all.

 

[Zexion~]

Pretty sure he'd still be incapable of absorbing heat since his absorptive capabilities are entirely due to Samehada. He simply amplifies them, but everything else should remain the same, including the heat disadvantage.

Water Dome is not made near instantly, a large water source needs to be made first, followed by the Water Dome being formed. Sasuke jumps upwards and onto his hawk far faster then WD happens.

Except then Kisame hops on his wall of 1000 sharks which wreck him and his hawk, if he uses Susano'o the hawk isn't carrying him.

Also about the heat Kisame has already shown the ability to force Samehada into doing things it doesn't want to do.

-Its shown the ability to absorb heat, just dislikes it

-Kisame forces it too anyways.

So yes he can absorb amertarasu.

 

[RedRobin]

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]. Amaterasu contains far more chakra then that Katon, and that Katon couldn't be absorbed completely. Now factor in the difference in heat and you'll realise Amaterasu is not being absorbed at all.

It absorbed a

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, it only needed to absorb the middle part the sides werent going to

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Samehada can absorb 6 tails worth of chakra in one go as long as its external. It was also seen being able

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[Forbidden Technique]

[

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], it couldn't take the heat, which is why it only absorbed this much [

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]. Amaterasu contains far more chakra then that Katon, and that Katon couldn't be absorbed completely. Now factor in the difference in heat and you'll realise Amaterasu is not being absorbed at all.

It didn't absorb the whole thing because the Katon was wider then Samehadas absorption range. Samehada didn't like the taste of its chakra, so it thumped Bee. No big deal. Let's not go and reach leaps and bounds please.

 

[Apêx1]

Except then Kisame hops on his wall of 1000 sharks which wreck him and his hawk, if he uses Susano'o the hawk isn't carrying him.

Also about the heat Kisame has already shown the ability to force Samehada into doing things it doesn't want to do.

-Its shown the ability to absorb heat, just dislikes it

-Kisame forces it too anyways.

So yes he can absorb amertarasu.

1000 sharks still need the water to be spat out, it can't be formed as quickly as it was in canon because that was a water location. Not that it matters because Hawk still flies in the same direction the sharks are flying (diagonally up) to evade them. Susano has been used with extreme speeds of movement, meaning it's not heavy. Pretty sure his hawk carried this Susano arm without being affected the slightest anyway, and that was Rikudo Susano which should be even denser. Not that anything else is needed in the first place, since Kisame can't destroy anything above v1 Susano.

-Forcing it to do things and being incapable of doing things are two different things. No reason for me to believe Samehada can survive the entire absorption of Amaterasu, so it dies. Next Amaterasu leads to its death.

-Not dislikes it, Bee said it was too much for it to handle. Meaning it's not about liking it, it's about being affected negatively by it.

-Kisame forces it and it dies. Next Amaterasu one shots then.

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, it only needed to absorb the middle part the sides werent going to

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Samehada can absorb 6 tails worth of chakra in one go as long as its external. It was also seen being able

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Good for it, but that amount of heat was too much already, and Ama>>

Amount is irrelevant, that's not what I'm debating.

It didn't absorb the whole thing because the Katon was wider then Samehadas absorption range. Samehada didn't like the taste of its chakra, so it thumped Bee. No big deal. Let's not go and reach leaps and bounds please.

There's no proof to suggest it could absorb anymore then that regardless. Bee clearly states that Samehada couldn't handle the heat, too much heat would imply death. Unless you give me reason to believe it can absorb more then that small amount of fire (and heat) then I don't see why I should believe it can absorb the entirety of that jutsu let alone Amaterasu.

 

[EZQ]

People here has convinced me Kisame absorbs Amaterasu effectively.

This match definitely goes to Kisame, lmao, its not a stomp but Kisame won't have a lot of trouble.

He shits on susano with GSB, he has a valid counter to amaterasu, and he can overpower Sasuke's genjutsu with his high chakra reserves, breaking the flow of its own with samehada.
Sasuke's speed is not a problem since Kisame was able to maneouver comfortably against v1 Bee.
Lightining jutsus are really dangerous on water, but Kisame's absortion abilities can counter that too.
lmao at the hawk, kisame shits on it. His long range suiton can take it down easely. If sasuke flies too far away le loses any posibility to attack rendering that tactic useless.

 

[Lord Tywin]

[

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], it couldn't take the heat, which is why it only absorbed this much [

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]. Amaterasu contains far more chakra then that Katon, and that Katon couldn't be absorbed completely. Now factor in the difference in heat and you'll realise Amaterasu is not being absorbed at all.

>Says it couldn't take the heat
>Absorbed every ounce of fire in its path
Sure Amaterasu has more chakra that katon(don't know where you got this from), but does it have 6 tails worth of chakra? Hell to the **** no.
And once again, we're talking about Kisame here. Samehada is basically Kisame's slave. Amaterasu is absorbed no problem.

 

[Apêx1]

>Says it couldn't take the heat
>Absorbed every ounce of fire in its path
Sure Amaterasu has more chakra that katon(don't know where you got this from), but does it have 6 tails worth of chakra? Hell to the **** no.
And once again, we're talking about Kisame here. Samehada is basically Kisame's slave. Amaterasu is absorbed no problem.

Please learn to read the manga. Bee says it can't take the heat, meaning the heat is too much for it to handle. Hence I suggested more of the fire could've been absorbed, but was left because it couldn't take more of it (which ends up making sense of his statement). If you want to believe that it didn't absorb the rest because of its absorption range then feel free to do so, rest assured that this amount is the limit because Bee stated it [absorption range or not].

Stop mentioning chakra amount smh. I couldn't care less if Samehada could absorb the Juubi in one go. Fact remains that it can't absorb more heat then it did there. I'm only mentioning chakra amount because the amount of chakra indiciates the concentration of heat in the amount of Amaterasu in comparison to the lesser amount of chakra in Katon with lesser heat concentration but far larger AOE.

Nope.

 

[Zexion~]

So apex made his own manga where Samehada all of a sudden dies from heat :lol

He's going to push out water at the begining of this match regardless so it IS a water location, and the sharks are spawned faster than sasuke can reach that height so they collapse on him.

 

[Apêx1]

So apex made his own manga where Samehada all of a sudden dies from heat :lol

He's going to push out water at the begining of this match regardless so it IS a water location, and the sharks are spawned faster than sasuke can reach that height so they collapse on him.

It's not my own manga, Bee outright states it, :lol.

Yes, but Sasuke can jump and make his Hawk at a faster rate then Kisame's water can change the location, let alone be formed into 1000 sharks.