Naruto & Madara vs Sasuke & Hashirama

[Zee U]

Transmigrants of different generations take on each other to see who's the strongest. We are talking about pre Rikudou powerup versions at their strongest state (minus Kurama for Madara), every feat the NaruSasu duo displayed with Rikudou Chakra is scaled down.

Location: VOTE (T1 starts on Madara's head, T2 on Hashirama's)
Intel: Full
Mindset: Bloodlusted
Restrictions: Chakra Sharing, Shinsuusenju.

Everyone is fully cooperative and aware of their partner's abilities (let's also say that Hashirama can inject Senjutsu chakra into Sasuke's Susanoo like Naruto and Juugo did).

Scenario 2: No restrictions.

I totally didn't make this thread because i wasn't bored and didn't want to create a 10 pages+ shitstorm :lol

 

[V h o]

Team 2 mid diff

 

[Tantalus Thief]

I give it to Sasuke and Hashirama.

 

[Beans2]

Naruto and Madara win.

BSM cloak powers up Madara's Perfect Susanoo a ridiculous amount, seen by how BSM cloaks boosted the K11. It would be far above Sasuke's even if Hashirama "injects" it with senjutsu. Naruto and Madara will merge avatars to make an iso Susanoo. Once Shinsuusenju comes out, Naruto fires off a giant flash Bijuu Dama enhanced by Susanoo sword to take out a large portion of the hands like Kurama's 12 Bijuudamas did. The hands that don't get destroyed will hit Madara's Kurama enhanced PS, which will either tank with heavy damage, or get destroyed like it was at VOTE but manage to protect Naruto's BSM avatar inside of it like how it protected Madara from getting killed by the giant explosion at VOTE. Then Naruto takes out Hashirama with flash BD.

Don't see how Sasuke can help much here. His Susanoo either gets taken out by Madara's much stronger Susanoo, or nuked by Naruto. He can't assist Hashirama the same way Naruto and Madara can assist each other, and he'd only get in the way if he tried to help out while SS is pounding the other team.

 

[Diabound]

Naruto and Madara win.

BSM cloak powers up Madara's Perfect Susanoo a ridiculous amount, seen by how BSM cloaks boosted the K11. It would be far above Sasuke's even if Hashirama "injects" it with senjutsu. Naruto and Madara will merge avatars to make an iso Susanoo. Once Shinsuusenju comes out, Naruto fires off a giant flash Bijuu Dama enhanced by Susanoo sword to take out a large portion of the hands like Kurama's 12 Bijuudamas did. The hands that don't get destroyed will hit Madara's Kurama enhanced PS, which will either tank with heavy damage, or get destroyed like it was at VOTE but manage to protect Naruto's BSM avatar inside of it like how it protected Madara from getting killed by the giant explosion at VOTE. Then Naruto takes out Hashirama with flash BD.

Don't see how Sasuke can help much here. His Susanoo either gets taken out by Madara's much stronger Susanoo, or nuked by Naruto. He can't assist Hashirama the same way Naruto and Madara can assist each other, and he'd only get in the way if he tried to help out while SS is pounding the other team.

Chakra sharing is restricted

 

[Beans2]

Chakra sharing is restricted

Didn't see that SS was restricted either. Well... Naruto and Madara win even more easily.

 

[LuckyMan]

If chakra sharing is restricted then why do you allow Hashirama to give senjutsu chakra to Sasukes Susanoo but don't allow Naruto to give Kurama Cloak to Madara?

You're going to need to clarify exactly what you mean with these conditions. You said "Pre Ridoku at their strongest state" so are we talking about War Arc versions just before Madara solo'd them?

 

[Zee U]

If chakra sharing is restricted then why do you allow Hashirama to give senjutsu chakra to Sasukes Susanoo but don't allow Naruto to give Kurama Cloak to Madara?

You're going to need to clarify exactly what you mean with these conditions. You said "Pre Ridoku at their strongest state" so are we talking about War Arc versions just before Madara solo'd them?

Because Naruto's KM sharing is way, way more OP than Senjutsu chakra, unless you think that it can pump up Sasuke's V3 to his PS' level like the Kyuubi cloak did. And by pre Rikudou i obviously mean their state during the JJ Obito fight.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Naruto and Madara win. Sasuke is deadweight.

 

[EZQ]

Naruto and madara would win given these conditions.

Madara can use PS to cover Naruto's cloak, and that way they would overpower Sasuke's ps.

Hashirama's gates would get overpowered and without SS he gets obliverated

 

[LuckyMan]

Because Naruto's KM sharing is way, way more OP than Senjutsu chakra, unless you think that it can pump up Sasuke's V3 to his PS' level like the Kyuubi cloak did. And by pre Rikudou i obviously mean their state during the JJ Obito fight.

Then you should have just made the fight Hashirama vs Team 1 because Sasuke offers nothing that will be a factor. His V3 will be crushed by a tail swipe or obliterated with bladed TBB neg difficulty. Afterwards they beat Hashirama with moderate difficulty.

Scenario 2 is still a stomp. Naruto gives Madara a kyuubi cloak and all hell breaks lose omfg.

 

[KidGamer65]

So BSM Naruto and EMS Madara vs. SM Hashirama and EMS Sasuke......

S1: Naruto and Madara win. Hashirama w/o SS=EMS Madara w/o Kurama. Their match will be a stalemate and BSM Naruto>>EMS Sasuke. He'd handle him with relative ease and then go on to help Madara whoop Hashirama. Or Madara just uses Iso Susanoo to coat Naruto's Avatar and obliterates Mokujin and Sasuke's PS.

S2: Naruto shares chakra w/ Madara and then Iso Susanoo beats SS. Sasuke is a non factor.

Only way Sasuke and Hashirama even have a chance of winning S2 is if chakra sharing is restricted.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Nardo and Maddy wins both scenarios

 

[Unorthodox]

Team Sasuke definitely loses scenario 1 for sure but people saying

S2: Naruto shares chakra w/ Madara and then Iso Susanoo beats SS.

Madara with a chakra cloak > Hashirama when him with the full kurama lost is ridiculous hell in another thread people were just saying Hashirama solos BM Minato & EMS Madara now Madara with a puny cloak wins Nope his susanoo gets swatted he only has more chopping power ss pounds it sinceless

 

[KidGamer65]

Team Sasuke definitely loses scenario 1 for sure but people saying



Madara with a chakra cloak > Hashirama when him with the full kurama lost is ridiculous hell in another thread people were just saying Hashirama solos BM Minato & EMS Madara now Madara with a puny cloak wins Nope his susanoo gets swatted he only has more chopping power ss pounds it sinceless

Lmfao. Read. I said Naruto shares chakra with Madara and then ISO SUSANOO beats SS. Meaning Naruto AND Madara w/ chakra sharing>Hashirama.

 

[Unorthodox]

Lmfao. Read. I said Naruto shares chakra with Madara and then ISO SUSANOO beats SS. Meaning Naruto AND Madara w/ chakra sharing>Hashirama.

well i did not no what ISO meant

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto and Madara win all scenarios
Sasuke is non factor here

 

[EZQ]

What is ISO?

Of course madara alone can't beat SS even with a mini cloak for himself. But if you add naruto and naruto's avatar which are > stupid kurama then they break SS definitely.

 

[ARGUS]

What is ISO?

Of course madara alone can't beat SS even with a mini cloak for himself. But if you add naruto and naruto's avatar which are > stupid kurama then they break SS definitely.

ISO susanoo referred to as the susanoo armored kyuubi
It's essentially the susanoo that can be used to wrap around things

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Naruto and Madara can do the BSM Susanoo Combo. Dunno if that's strong enough, but it's certainly awesome. Gotta give it to Naruto and Madara, because Naruto can give out BSM.