Can current Sakura defeat Zabuza??

[TheTailedSage]

If Part 1 Kakashi can just about Fend off his attacks then Sakura, i hate to say this, is more than capable of wrecking Zabuza

 

[Worm]

I'd say Sakura wins, but she's such a bad character, I just can't bring myself to say it. Zabuza wins.

 

[Lord Tywin]

I'd say Sakura wins, but she's such a bad character, I just can't bring myself to say it. Zabuza wins.

So which character(s) do you consider good in Naruto? if any?

 

[EZQ]

If Part 1 Kakashi can just about Fend off his attacks then Sakura, i hate to say this, is more than capable of wrecking Zabuza

So in your opinion Sakura can replicate what a sharingan user did? Not to mention, Kakashi is a lot faster than her, even in pt1. Sakura has no speed feats to put her in that category.

Just for being from part 2 doesn't automatically give you more reflexes and speed than a fast known sharingan user. And kakashi couldn't even react properly to zabuza and had to be saved by naruto and sasuke.

 

[Worm]

So which character(s) do you consider good in Naruto? if any?

Pain
Kabuto
Sasori
Sasuke (he has his faults though, but is at least good enough in comparison to majority of the cast)
Possibly Kisame

Might be forgetting someone, but that's more or less it. Unless we're talking about sheer likability. In which case, there are some more characters that can be considered ''good'' in a sense.

 

[WreckRolled]

Pain
Kabuto
Sasori
Sasuke (he has his faults though, but is at least good enough in comparison to majority of the cast)
Possibly Kisame

Might be forgetting someone, but that's more or less it. Unless we're talking about sheer likability. In which case, there are some more characters that can be considered ''good'' in a sense.

so you dislike sakura but you like sasuke, the fanboy police called, you're under arrest

 

[Worm]

so you dislike sakura but you like sasuke, the fanboy police called, you're under arrest

>thinking Sasuke is a better character than most of the cast translates into liking him

Rofl. Sorry, no. I don't like Kabuto, Kisame or Pain, but all three are on the list. It doesn't take a Sasuke fan to know he is lightyears above Sakura in terms of characterization. Albeit, his mental state is inconsistent as hell.

 

[Zexion~]

Sakura takes this.

 

[WreckRolled]

>thinking Sasuke is a better character than most of the cast translates into liking him

Rofl. Sorry, no. I don't like Kabuto, Kisame or Pain, but all three are on the list. It doesn't take a Sasuke fan to know he is lightyears above Sakura in terms of characterization. Albeit, his mental state is inconsistent as hell.

he s one of the less logical characters, his actions make no sense at all, same as itachi, and i m a fan of both, why is sakura a bad character ?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Zabuza solos Sakura with water prison jutsue.

 

[Worm]

he s one of the less logical characters, his actions make no sense at all,

Can't say his plans aren't logical, but they aren't even supposed to be logical. He's a psychopath, which means he's akin to bold behaviour based off on emotion, which he has trouble controlling like psychopaths in general do. His plans are literally just meant to be ravings of a psychopath, the more he learns about the truth and the more his emotions get out of his control, the less logical his plans are.

But on the same note, he suddenly gets cured of psychopacy after Naruto defeats him which is impossible so there's what I meant by mental inconsistency. Take that as you will.

same as itachi, and i m a fan of both, why is sakura a bad character ?

She's got too inhuman of a mindset, which is what her whole character revolves around. Her love for Sasuke makes literally no sense. How many times has he beaten her up or hell, tried to kill her? A dozen of times. And she still loved the guy until the end. Him being an old friend or not doesn't mean much if the guy tries to kill you a couple of times. I'm not sure if she's a hardcore masochist or if Kishi is casually promoting mysogynistical behaviour.

The only other character point she has ever had is the whole dependency issue that she had, but that whole thing is highly inconsistent and was just flushed down the toilet as soon as the Sasori fight ended. Considering she went back to being someone who gets into trouble and is rescued by others.

 

[WreckRolled]

Can't say his plans aren't logical, but they aren't even supposed to be logical. He's a psychopath, which means he's akin to bold behaviour based off on emotion, which he has trouble controlling like psychopaths in general do. His plans are literally just meant to be ravings of a psychopath, the more he learns about the truth and the more his emotions get out of his control, the less logical his plans are.

But on the same note, he suddenly gets cured of psychopacy after Naruto defeats him which is impossible so there's what I meant by mental inconsistency. Take that as you will.



She's got too inhuman of a mindset, which is what her whole character revolves around. Her love for Sasuke makes literally no sense. How many times has he beaten her up or hell, tried to kill her? A dozen of times. And she still loved the guy until the end. Him being an old friend or not doesn't mean much if the guy tries to kill you a couple of times. I'm not sure if she's a hardcore masochist or if Kishi is casually promoting mysogynistical behaviour.

The only other character point she has ever had is the whole dependency issue that she had, but that whole thing is highly inconsistent and was just flushed down the toilet as soon as the Sasori fight ended. Considering she went back to being someone who gets into trouble and is rescued by others.

can t you see the ridiculous bias in your comments ? you take the unjustified actions of sasuke as logical and justify them because he's a psychopath, he's not psycho, he's an unrealistic character, when you want to make a change in your life you don t destroy everything from your past, the past events and ppl is the reasoning and driving force for your decision in the first place, but when sakura does something that is hard to believe, it makes no sense, even though it makes a lot of sense, you don t stop loving someone when he does something bad to you, her actions are a lot less hard to buy than sasuke's, when did she get into trouble ? do i have to remember you the times sasuke and naruto where saved by other ppl including sakura ? but ppl like riding the popular bandwagons and hating sakura is a popular one right now

 

[Worm]

can t you see the ridiculous bias in your comments ? you take the unjustified actions of sasuke as logical and justify them because he's a psychopath, he's not psycho, he's an unrealistic character, when you want to make a change in your life you don t destroy everything from your past, the past events and ppl is the reasoning and driving force for your decision in the first place, but when sakura does something that is hard to believe, it makes no sense, even though it makes a lot of sense, you don t stop loving someone when he does something bad to you, her actions are a lot less hard to buy than sasuke's, when did she get into trouble ? do i have to remember you the times sasuke and naruto where saved by other ppl including sakura ? but ppl like riding the popular bandwagons and hating sakura is a popular one right now

Has Sakura shown to have high emotional outbursts and be akin to bold behaviour based off on emotion she can't control like Sasuke has? No. Sasuke is a clear psychopath. He has been ranging from revenge to mass murdering to revolution on the whole world, etc. based off on his emotion. He has clear problems when it comes to controlling his emotion and he acts extremely boldly based off on the emotion he has. Sakura isn't a psychopath, nor does she have trouble with emotion. Sasuke wants to destroy the past solely because that past brings up an emotion that he can't control and in turn, acts extremely boldly based on that emotion.

What you're trying to do here is compare two people with different mental states - someone with an unhealthy mental state and someone with a healthy mental state - and give me a moral lesson. Sasuke's actions being illogical and not morally correct does not mean that based off on his mindstate, it isn't clear why he did the things he did. Sakura, on the other hand, has a perfectly healthy mental state as far as we have been shown. So the fact that she is in love with a mass murdering psychopath, that has directed murderous feelings towards her multiple times and has tried to act on them, is completely inhuman way of thinking just because of what? So she could end up with him in the end and satisfy the people that scream about pairings left and right.

She's no different than Hinata in that regard. Although, while Hinata is just bland and is basically a non-character, Sakura is someone who's way of thinking makes zero sense based off on her mental state. Her whole character literally just ends up revolving around her love for Sasuke that doesn't make much sense and she is altogether pretty bland because of that. Albeit, not Hinata level of bland.

do i have to remember you the times sasuke and naruto where saved by other ppl including sakura ?

Was the dependency issue ever a character point for either Naruto or Sasuke? No. Absolutely nothing wrong with getting saved by other people. The problem is that, unlike Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura's characterization - in the first part and beginning of the second part - revolved around her dependency issue and the fact that she couldn't save anyone. She ''seemingly'' got some development in that regard when she was fighting Sasori, considering how confident and strong she acted like, but later dropped down back to being someone who supports Naruto and Sasuke from the background and is a maiden in trouble type of character. Which is why that whole character point of hers was either just forgotten or is inconsistent as hell.

 

[WreckRolled]

Has Sakura shown to have high emotional outbursts and be akin to bold behaviour based off on emotion she can't control like Sasuke has? No. Sasuke is a clear psychopath. He has been ranging from revenge to mass murdering to revolution on the whole world, etc. based off on his emotion. He has clear problems when it comes to controlling his emotion and he acts extremely boldly based off on the emotion he has. Sakura isn't a psychopath, nor does she have trouble with emotion. Sasuke wants to destroy the past solely because that past brings up an emotion that he can't control and in turn, acts extremely boldly based on that emotion.

when sasuke wanted to kill itachi he had no trouble leaving everything behind to acomplish this, his other bonds were not making him weak at all yet he still wanted to severe them, makes no sense, same thing when he wanted to fulfill itachi's dream, there was no need to kill anyone because as you said his main goal was overpowering any other emotion anyway, so his actions make little sense

What you're trying to do here is compare two people with different mental states - someone with an unhealthy mental state and someone with a healthy mental state - and give me a moral lesson. Sasuke's actions being illogical and not morally correct does not mean that based off on his mindstate, it isn't clear why he did the things he did. Sakura, on the other hand, has a perfectly healthy mental state as far as we have been shown.

wtf are you to say who has a "healthy mental state" and who doesn t and then to base your whole argument around this point ? you sense the crazy bias in your argument ?

So the fact that she is in love with a mass murdering psychopath, that has directed murderous feelings towards her multiple times and has tried to act on them, is completely inhuman way of thinking just because of what? So she could end up with him in the end and satisfy the people that scream about pairings left and right.

She's no different than Hinata in that regard. Although, while Hinata is just bland and is basically a non-character, Sakura is someone who's way of thinking makes zero sense based off on her mental state.

wrong, sakura started loving sasuke before he became a criminal and sasuke loved her too, when he became a criminal she still loved him of course,just like a sister still loves his criminal brother, she has tried to put sasuke out of his misery and was not able, she tried to forget about him after she tried to kill her but later he returned a changed man so she got new hope

Her whole character literally just ends up revolving around her love for Sasuke that doesn't make much sense and she is altogether pretty bland because of that. Albeit, not Hinata level of bland.

his whole character literally just ends up revolving around his love/hate for Itachi that doesn't make much sense and he is altogether pretty bland because of that. Albeit, not Naruto level of bland.
not biased at all

also no sakura has other character traits, one of which you point out below -_-

Was the dependency issue ever a character point for either Naruto or Sasuke? No. Absolutely nothing wrong with getting saved by other people. The problem is that, unlike Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura's characterization - in the first part and beginning of the second part - revolved around her dependency issue and the fact that she couldn't save anyone. She ''seemingly'' got some development in that regard when she was fighting Sasori, considering how confident and strong she acted like, but later dropped down back to being someone who supports Naruto and Sasuke from the background and is a maiden in trouble type of character. Which is why that whole character point of hers was either just forgotten or is inconsistent as hell.

this point is so dumb, so because she felt like she was useless and was not able to change that she is a bad character, this point is just so dumb, this is not "fairyland the manga", you watch too many anime with their little stupid character arcs, this is not how it works, she did get development but not the stupid stereotypical anime development, she tried to kill sasuke, redeem sasuke etc and nothing worked so she realised that she has no power over him and could only trust in sasuke and naruto to do the right thing, that is real development, in other words even if you try you can't always win the war but she did get stronger and at the end of the series she was essential for the victory against madara and kaguya

 

[Worm]

when sasuke wanted to kill itachi he had no trouble leaving everything behind to acomplish this, his other bonds were not making him weak at all yet he still wanted to severe them, makes no sense, same thing when he wanted to fulfill itachi's dream, there was no need to kill anyone because as you said his main goal was overpowering any other emotion anyway, so his actions make little sense

He severed them because they were bringing him further away from his goal - killing Itachi. Staying with Naruto and Sakura made him more and more comfortable over time, not allowing him to focus on his goal instead. I don't see how it doesn't make any sense. To begin with, Sasuke has a problem with bonds because of the way his bonds with his family, friends and brother were severed in. As far as we know, he was afraid of gaining new bonds and having the possibility for everything to repeat itself, this time with Sakura and Naruto.

Either way, he severed his bonds solely because he wanted to focus on training for killing Itachi. He wouldn't have been able to do if he still had his bonds, given how he'd have to spend time with his friends and those bonds as well. By severing them, he could spend time solely on training for his battle with Itachi, which was was essentially an obsession of his at the time.

wtf are you to say who has a "healthy mental state" and who doesn t and then to base your whole argument around this point ? you sense the crazy bias in your argument ?

Jesus christ. You do realize that you HAVE to base your argument about a character on their mental state? How the hell do you think you are supposed to analyze a character? By looking at their shoes? You can't do jack shit if you don't look at their mental state and how they act. And whether you like it or not, it's an immensely big point for Sasuke's character that he is a psychopath who has trouble controlling emotion.

Who the hell am I to say who has a healthy mental state and who doesn't? I dunno... Maybe a person who can read and has enough common sense to see that a mass murderer, who threatens to destroy a whole village full of innocent people, finds killing people to test his powers amusing and even attempts a revolution on the whole world, has, in fact, an unhealthy mental state.

Wait a minute. Are you actually trying to tell me Sasuke has a healthy mental state? Or are you trying to tell me Sakura has an unhealthy mental state? Either way, both statements would be dumb.

wrong, sakura started loving sasuke before he became a criminal and sasuke loved her too, when he became a criminal she still loved him of course,just like a sister still loves his criminal brother, she has tried to put sasuke out of his misery and was not able, she tried to forget about him after she tried to kill her but later he returned a changed man so she got new hope

A woman falls in love with a man. After a few years, the man starts beating her up. Will the woman still be in love with the man? No. And Sasuke's case is much worse than that, considering he genuinely didn't give a single shit about her - until Naruto defeated him - and has attempted murder on her multiple times. If Sakura is in love with a psychopath who doesn't give two shits about her, lies to her and attempts to chop off her head then all I can say is Sakura has an extremely unrealistic way of thinking that isn't even remotely humane.

A sister or a mother will love their criminal brother or son because they were raised alongside them or raised them themselves. It is a family thing. And even then, you can't surely say that a sister or a mother would love their criminal brother or son. Furthermore, the brother or son case doesn't even begin to be even closely the same as the lover case. Actually, I don't see why I have to explain this shit to you. If a man ruthlessly beats up a woman, the woman will NOT love him. It's as simple as that. I don't need to bother shoving you countless proof of this.

his whole character literally just ends up revolving around his love/hate for Itachi that doesn't make much sense and he is altogether pretty bland because of that. Albeit, not Naruto level of bland.
not biased at all

Lmfao. He struggles with his view of the world and the truth that it brings him, constantly has his world view altered and his emotions take different turns on every new information of truth he learns of, becoming more and more psychopathic over time and now this is even remotely comparable to a girl who's mentality and reason for action only revolves around a guy she has a crush on who happened to become a psychopath over time? These two cases don't even begin to compare.

Sakura's case is literally a struggle and interest of love. Sasuke's case is a struggle with his whole identity, reason to live and world-view. There's no bias here. It's clear who has a bigger window of problems and things he has to face. If we're going to throw this word around like old men throw their sausages on a ****, I'll say that even implying that these two cases are the same is a biased point of view. I actually find it kinda strange that I could be ''biased'' for a guy who I dislike.

also no sakura has other character traits, one of which you point out below -_-

Which, I also stated, is a mostly inconsistent and irrelevant point as well as something that doesn't really add anything interesting to the character that would make her any more likeable or less bland than she already is.

this point is so dumb, so because she felt like she was useless and was not able to change that she is a bad character, this point is just so dumb, this is not "fairyland the manga",

I feel like you don't really read through what I wrote. My whole argumentation that she is a bad character revolves around the fact that her character arc or rather struggle - her love for Sasuke - is a retarded thing that makes no sense which also adds up to her bland sheet of a character, blatantly stated. The whole point about her dependency issue is that, if Kishi actually bothered with her character, it could have adden at least a little bit to her character arc, but was left in the dust and is largely irrelevant so it doesn't really add anything.

@Bold. Kinda funny considering this manga has the main character change mass murderers into good people by the ''power of words'' and even has a message ''friendship always wins'', but that's literally irrelevant as all hell to this discussion.

you watch too many anime with their little stupid character arcs, this is not how it works, she did get development but not the stupid stereotypical anime development,

I guess you don't watch any other anime outside of Naruto to be able to tell how bad of a character Sakura is then. And nice how you immediately jump to anime comparisons. She is literally just as bad compared to book or movie characters that have actual characterization. She got terrible development that wasn't executed even nearly well, so it doesn't even begin to compare to this ''stereotypical anime development''. The whole fight with Sasori was a just a tease. She got some power to her punch, some healing capabilities and got more arrogant than she was before. Not really good development.

she tried to kill sasuke, redeem sasuke etc and nothing worked so she realised that she has no power over him and could only trust in sasuke and naruto to do the right thing, that is real development, in other words even if you try you can't always win the war but she did get stronger and at the end of the series she was essential for the victory against madara and kaguya

In the end, she never let go of her abnormal love for him, no matter what he did to her. Simply because she ''believed'' that Naruto will change Sasuke. I won't say her belief in Naruto is directly her fault given how Kishi likes to exaggarate and shove Naruto's heroicness down our throats to the point that it's blatantly annoying, i.e. Naruto always wins with the ''power of words'' no matter what happens because he's such a big hero and morally correct person that he can even change Satan into a person that is as kind as Jesus, but I'll still blame her for the fact that she loved Sasuke no matter what he did to her, making her someone who has a pretty damn inhumane way of thinking.

The part about Naruto changing Satan into Jesus was obviously a joke, but was just there to show how much Kishi shoves Naruto's ideals down everyone's throats. Anyways, yes, Sakura delivered the final blow to Kaguya, but that's not relevant to her characterization. I don't see why you're bringing that up. She got a punch in, that's all there is to it. It was just team 7 working together again wank.

 

[Nattana]

Sakura low diffs.

 

[Lariatoo]

Ok... When did this became a Sasuke vs Sakura character battle? :|

 

[WreckRolled]

unnecessary wall of text is unnecessarily unnecessary

He severed them because they were bringing him further away from his goal - killing Itachi. Staying with Naruto and Sakura made him more and more comfortable over time, not allowing him to focus on his goal instead. I don't see how it doesn't make any sense. To begin with, Sasuke has a problem with bonds because of the way his bonds with his family, friends and brother were severed in. As far as we know, he was afraid of gaining new bonds and having the possibility for everything to repeat itself, this time with Sakura and Naruto.

Either way, he severed his bonds solely because he wanted to focus on training for killing Itachi. He wouldn't have been able to do if he still had his bonds, given how he'd have to spend time with his friends and those bonds as well. By severing them, he could spend time solely on training for his battle with Itachi, which was was essentially an obsession of his at the time.

i explained why it doesn t make sense in the last comment, he had no problem leaving them forever like he did so there was no reason to kill them, not killing them means not killing important ppl to you and they still don t bother you becaus you're far away and you can focus on itachi so win win, don t you dare write another wall of text about this topic and not adressing this point directly and only this point

Jesus christ. You do realize that you HAVE to base your argument about a character on their mental state? How the hell do you think you are supposed to analyze a character? By looking at their shoes? You can't do jack shit if you don't look at their mental state and how they act. And whether you like it or not, it's an immensely big point for Sasuke's character that he is a psychopath who has trouble controlling emotion.

Who the hell am I to say who has a healthy mental state and who doesn't? I dunno... Maybe a person who can read and has enough common sense to see that a mass murderer, who threatens to destroy a whole village full of innocent people, finds killing people to test his powers amusing and even attempts a revolution on the whole world, has, in fact, an unhealthy mental state.

Wait a minute. Are you actually trying to tell me Sasuke has a healthy mental state? Or are you trying to tell me Sakura has an unhealthy mental state? Either way, both statements would be dumb.

again i explained this in the last comment, you decide who the good characters are based on your bullshit judgement of their mental state, that's not how it works, unless told otherwise explicitly by the story you decide their mental state based on their actions, so if sakura loves sasuke even though he's a bastard than she loves him obesessively and is not in a normal emotional state, you twist the normal logic around and say "sakura is normal because i say so therefore anything that i consider not normal is bad character design"

A woman falls in love with a man. After a few years, the man starts beating her up. Will the woman still be in love with the man? No. And Sasuke's case is much worse than that, considering he genuinely didn't give a single shit about her - until Naruto defeated him - and has attempted murder on her multiple times. If Sakura is in love with a psychopath who doesn't give two shits about her, lies to her and attempts to chop off her head then all I can say is Sakura has an extremely unrealistic way of thinking that isn't even remotely humane.

A sister or a mother will love their criminal brother or son because they were raised alongside them or raised them themselves. It is a family thing. And even then, you can't surely say that a sister or a mother would love their criminal brother or son. Furthermore, the brother or son case doesn't even begin to be even closely the same as the lover case. Actually, I don't see why I have to explain this shit to you. If a man ruthlessly beats up a woman, the woman will NOT love him. It's as simple as that. I don't need to bother shoving you countless proof of this.

it s facinating how all your replies are not actual replies, i said that she started loving him way before that, get it, before when all was good and it was fine for her to start loving him, get it ? what happened you ignored this essential and main point or just didn t read it like in all the other replies ??? and yes ppl still love abusive ppl and ppl who do bad things to them in general, it's why abusive relationships exist and why ppl forgive

Lmfao. He struggles with his view of the world and the truth that it brings him, constantly has his world view altered and his emotions take different turns on every new information of truth he learns of, becoming more and more psychopathic over time and now this is even remotely comparable to a girl who's mentality and reason for action only revolves around a guy she has a crush on who happened to become a psychopath over time? These two cases don't even begin to compare.
Sakura's case is literally a struggle and interest of love. Sasuke's case is a struggle with his whole identity, reason to live and world-view. There's no bias here. It's clear who has a bigger window of problems and things he has to face. If we're going to throw this word around like old men throw their sausages on a ****, I'll say that even implying that these two cases are the same is a biased point of view. I actually find it kinda strange that I could be ''biased'' for a guy who I dislike.
Which, I also stated, is a mostly inconsistent and irrelevant point as well as something that doesn't really add anything interesting to the character that would make her any more likeable or less bland than she already is.

sasuke had it worse i agree but it s entirely off topic

I feel like you don't really read through what I wrote. My whole argumentation that she is a bad character revolves around the fact that her character arc or rather struggle - her love for Sasuke - is a retarded thing that makes no sense which also adds up to her bland sheet of a character, blatantly stated. The whole point about her dependency issue is that, if Kishi actually bothered with her character, it could have adden at least a little bit to her character arc, but was left in the dust and is largely irrelevant so it doesn't really add anything.

i feel like you forgot what you wrote, this was a reply to you about why you think sakura is a bad character because she she felt useless and dependent and stayed that way even though she tried to change therefore bad character because retarded logic, it had nothing to do with sasuke so your reply is off topic again

I guess you don't watch any other anime outside of Naruto to be able to tell how bad of a character Sakura is then. And nice how you immediately jump to anime comparisons. She is literally just as bad compared to book or movie characters that have actual characterization. She got terrible development that wasn't executed even nearly well, so it doesn't even begin to compare to this ''stereotypical anime development''. The whole fight with Sasori was a just a tease. She got some power to her punch, some healing capabilities and got more arrogant than she was before. Not really good development.

and you re such a high level critique who can judge the depiction of humans with such precision based on all the "good" anime that you saw, everyone is a bad character now for the dumbest of reasons , you're too arrogant and somehow the power level of a character has somethign to do with with how good of a character he is...tf, if he doesn t get stronger than he's a bad character, facepalm worthy

In the end, she never let go of her abnormal love for him, no matter what he did to her. Simply because she ''believed'' that Naruto will change Sasuke. I won't say her belief in Naruto is directly her fault given how Kishi likes to exaggarate and shove Naruto's heroicness down our throats to the point that it's blatantly annoying, i.e. Naruto always wins with the ''power of words'' no matter what happens because he's such a big hero and morally correct person that he can even change Satan into a person that is as kind as Jesus, but I'll still blame her for the fact that she loved Sasuke no matter what he did to her, making her someone who has a pretty damn inhumane way of thinking.

The part about Naruto changing Satan into Jesus was obviously a joke, but was just there to show how much Kishi shoves Naruto's ideals down everyone's throats. Anyways, yes, Sakura delivered the final blow to Kaguya, but that's not relevant to her characterization. I don't see why you're bringing that up. She got a punch in, that's all there is to it. It was just team 7 working together again wank.

literally all of this has been answered in the portion of the comment that you are replying to-_-, sakura tried everything and could not do anything so he decided to just trust them, after he tried to kill her she decided to get over sasuke even though she was still thinking about him and then he came back totally different than before so she got new hope, all of this was in my comment and it answers any existent point that you made here, naruto is not relevant in this, reread manga, without sakura they would all be in eternal tsukuyomi

 

[Worm]

Dear God. Let me make this simple.

A girl gets brutally beaten by her boyfriend, but she forgives him and still chases around for him. Is this normal human behaviour to you? Yes/no? If you answer yes, we're ending the discussion right here because you're clearly lacking in common sense and morality in that case. If you answer no, then that is an agreement to my statement that Sakura's love for Sasuke isn't normal human behaviour and she acts retardedly to the point that she is literally pairing bait.

Second question. Is Sasuke a psychopath or not? If you answer yes, you are agreeing with me that Sasuke's actions make perfect sense given that he is a psychopath. If you answer no, then it's the same case as above <- you're lacking in common sense.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Zabuza can't really See through mist either, if she Uses AOE punch he wins. And she can shatter the sword.