Sannin VS Hashirama

[Zexion~]

Sannin are so wanked.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't think that hurting or destroying Mokujin is necessary, they just need to distract it and survive it, while Jiraiya prep's Gama Rinsho. It would be wise to use Orochimaru and Tsunade as the distrations because they are immortal, they arn't going to die, and can actually use hashirama's lack of intel to play possum (much like tsunade did to Madara) and counter attack from behind.

They only need to by jiraiya time, at best 3-5 mins. With Orochimaru's on the defense with Sanjū Rashōmon and Tsunade able able to use her immortality as a distraction long enough for Jiraiya to fully prepare. Jiraiya also has methods he can use that allow him to stay out of harms way, such as: Sanjū Rashōmon, Gamagakure no Jutsu, and Kageayatsuri no Jutsu which all provide him with cover while ma and pa prep.

They can turn the size of the Mokujin into its weakness and taking advantage of its large size (As a target) and slower speed. Once again I'm not underestimating hashirama, but it seems obvious that people arnt considering all of the sannin's abilities to accomplish their goal. They dont have to confront him directly, they can use techniques to stall, and since hashirama isn't omnipresent he would have to focus his attention on the biggest threat.

Tsunade, Orochimaru, Katsuyu, Manda, and Boss Toads are a far bigger threat to hashirama then a missing Jiraiya, which will give jiraiya the time needed to get the prep needed to trap him in genjutsu.

Except they can't survive it. That is the main point. Rashomon is a terrible attempt at a shield since Hashirama can just go around it, or he can use Mokuton forests that sprout from below the ground, making a frontal shield pointless. Tsunade's Byakugo is irrelevant if she takes a hit that obliterates her body beyond repair, and Mokujin delivers hits like that in a single strike. Not to mention Mokuryu would bind her and absorb her chakra, so regardless of her Byakugo, she is finished. :lol @ the notion that Orochimaru and Tsunade are immortal btw.

-Shadow manipulation is another useless technique since the people in the shadow have to hold their breaths. Ma and Pa can't prep the chant if they are holding their breath.

-Hiding in a Toad is useless because Hashirama would systematically slaughter Orochimaru, Tsunade, and the toad Jiraiya is hiding in. Who is the bigger threat is completely irrelevant when Hashirama would obliterate everything and anything before Jiraiya can prep his Genjutsu.

Mokuryu binds Orochimaru and his summon. Then another Mokuryu binds Tsunade and her summon, and Mokujin kills them along with Jiraiya.

Sannin do not stand a chance. Stop arguing for them. Mokujin nor Sage Mode are even needed to obliterate these 3. Multiple Mokuryu and Flower Tree World and maybe Hotei no Jutsu are all he needs.

 

[MickNerks]

Except they can't survive it. That is the main point. Rashomon is a terrible attempt at a shield since Hashirama can just go around it, or he can use Mokuton forests that sprout from below the ground, making a frontal shield pointless. Tsunade's Byakugo is irrelevant if she takes a hit that obliterates her body beyond repair, and Mokujin delivers hits like that in a single strike. Not to mention Mokuryu would bind her and absorb her chakra, so regardless of her Byakugo, she is finished. :lol @ the notion that Orochimaru and Tsunade are immortal btw.

I was implying that they have (Unlike most shinobi) an ability to heal from or escape fatal injuries, which gives them a style of immortality on the battlefield. I think you know what I mean by that.

Sannin do not stand a chance. Stop arguing for them. Mokujin nor Sage Mode are even needed to obliterate these 3. Multiple Mokuryu and Flower Tree World and maybe Hotei no Jutsu are all he needs.

I will not stop voicing my opinion just because you dont agree with it. My main point and purpose for defending the Sannin was to show that this would not be a Low Diff match-up, and that there are multiple Shinobi in the versus thread who are severely underrated by fans of another character who overrate them by claiming that their choice could defeat the opponent with one attack from the start. IMO that is not intelligent criticism. And sadly I don't think I have seen anyone accurately and unbiasedly give intelligent criticism that doesnt just end with low diff since Negative Knight was regularly on this forum, at least he would give both parties fair analysis before declaring a winner.

Anyway, I'll stop. But once again to think Hashirama low diff's the legendary sannin especially when the OP put them at the peak of their power is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Zexion~]

I was implying that they have (Unlike most shinobi) an ability to heal from or escape fatal injuries, which gives them a style of immortality on the battlefield. I think you know what I mean by that.



I will not stop voicing my opinion just because you dont agree with it. My main point and purpose for defending the Sannin was to show that this would not be a Low Diff match-up, and that there are multiple Shinobi in the versus thread who are severely underrated by fans of another character who overrate them by claiming that their choice could defeat the opponent with one attack from the start. IMO that is not intelligent criticism. And sadly I don't think I have seen anyone accurately and unbiasedly give intelligent criticism that doesnt just end with low diff since Negative Knight was regularly on this forum, at least he would give both parties fair analysis before declaring a winner.

Anyway, I'll stop. But once again to think Hashirama low diff's the legendary sannin especially when the OP put them at the peak of their power is absolutely ridiculous.

Legendary <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< God of all Shinobi

Even by hype he shits on them.

 

[KidGamer65]

I was implying that they have (Unlike most shinobi) an ability to heal from or escape fatal injuries, which gives them a style of immortality on the battlefield. I think you know what I mean by that.



I will not stop voicing my opinion just because you dont agree with it. My main point and purpose for defending the Sannin was to show that this would not be a Low Diff match-up, and that there are multiple Shinobi in the versus thread who are severely underrated by fans of another character who overrate them by claiming that their choice could defeat the opponent with one attack from the start. IMO that is not intelligent criticism. And sadly I don't think I have seen anyone accurately and unbiasedly give intelligent criticism that doesnt just end with low diff since Negative Knight was regularly on this forum, at least he would give both parties fair analysis before declaring a winner.

Anyway, I'll stop. But once again to think Hashirama low diff's the legendary sannin especially when the OP put them at the peak of their power is absolutely ridiculous.

Then it's useless because they can't survive Hashirama's attacks, thus there was no point in mentioning it to begin with.

You can voice your opinion all you like, but when you start using falsities to try and prove your point, you leave the realm of "voicing your opinion", because Manga Fact and your opinion are two completely things. Do you want me to tell you what intelligent criticism is? Judging the battle how it is regardless of your personal feelings. Anyone who can read the Manga knows that Hashirama would stomp the Sannin. The fact that all you can do is cry about how people are underrating them is proof that you don't have a real argument. Just complaints and I don't think anyone wants to see you complaining about the Sannin being underrated when you are the one sitting here wanking the living shit out of them.

Stop using the Sannin's title as your evidence. It makes you sound absolutely foolish when:

-Gokage are held to a higher esteem than the Sannin in the Manga. Fact.
-PS Madara said the Gokage are nothing to him. Fact.
-SM Hashirama is a tier above PS Madara. Fact.

Yet somehow the Sannin mid diff Hashirama....:lol My sides. Portrayal, Hype, Feats and Kishimoto say Hashirama stomps the Sannin. If you don't agree then you are disagreeing with FACT. People need to learn the difference between OPINION and FACT.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Take your snake fetishes elsewhere pls.

Mokujin offensive feats are piss poor. It can't hurt Manda unless your willing to explain how?​

He said not even close

Defend Mokujin please.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Mokujin offensive feats are piss poor. It can't hurt Manda unless your willing to explain how?​

Defend Mokujin please.​

1. Bijuu's physical attacks can hurt and affect each other, as shown during Killer B and Naruto vs. Obito's Bijuu. B smacked the shit out of Kokuo.

2. SM Mokujin=PS>>>>Sasuke's PS=Kurama Mode Naruto>>Hachibi in physical power.

3. Bijuu>>Manda in every way, shape and form.

4. Manda is literally the size of Mokujin's hand.

Thus Mokujin crushes Manda with a few punches. Though I fully expect some wank filled reply, so I'm not even going to bother.

 

[TRE MERCER]

1. Bijuu's physical attacks can hurt and affect each other, as shown during Killer B and Naruto vs. Obito's Bijuu. B smacked the shit out of Kokuo.

2. SM Mokujin=PS>>>>Sasuke's PS=Kurama Mode Naruto>>Hachibi in physical power.

3. Bijuu>>Manda in every way, shape and form.

4. Manda is literally the size of Mokujin's hand.

Thus Mokujin crushes Manda with a few punches. Though I fully expect some wank filled reply, so I'm not even going to bother.

I only agree with 1 point. Mokujin being able to hurt Manda. Although im well aware the Sannin lose here.

Dammit i concede:eww:​

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Hashirama stomps.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yes Hashirama does stomp this honestly. ​

Manda was their only hope and KG completely shut that down even i couldn't think of nothing to support Manda but if it was Manda II this would have eneded totally different.​

 

[Ansatsuken]

Yes Hashirama does stomp this honestly. ​

Manda was their only hope and KG completely shut that down even i couldn't think of nothing to support Manda but if it was Manda II this would have eneded totally different.​

Do you forgot about this gates that can bind more powerful entity compare to Manda II

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This Gates also can tanked Bijuu Dama from Juubi

 

[TRE MERCER]

Do you forgot about this gates that can bind more powerful entity compare to Manda II

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Manda sheds it's skin thus getting away from those gates.​

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Manda sheds it's skin thus getting away from those gates.​

And you wonder why people make fun of your Manda wank. :lol

Did you forget that the Juubi, which could also shed parts of its body, could not escape from the Myojinmon, let alone a mere boss summon?

 

[Lord Tywin]

Hashirama raises up his chakra and the sannin will give up on life.

 

[TRE MERCER]

And you wonder why people make fun of your Manda wank. :lol

Did you forget that the Juubi, which could also shed parts of its body, could not escape from the Myojinmon, let alone a mere boss summon?

I like when people use the Manda wank to troll it actually makes me happy. The Juubi cannot shed it's skin completely that's the difference plus once the skin is sheds Manda can escape underground as shown in the battle against Katsuya and Gamabunta.​

 

[RedRobin]

1. Bijuu's physical attacks can hurt and affect each other, as shown during Killer B and Naruto vs. Obito's Bijuu. B smacked the shit out of Kokuo.

2. SM Mokujin=PS>>>>Sasuke's PS=Kurama Mode Naruto>>Hachibi in physical power.

3. Bijuu>>Manda in every way, shape and form.

4. Manda is literally the size of Mokujin's hand.

Thus Mokujin crushes Manda with a few punches. Though I fully expect some wank filled reply, so I'm not even going to bother.

The scaling you did in your other post is wrong because you assumed Gamabunta and Manda are the same size as Gamakichi and Aoba.

Now Kishi's scales are highly inconsistent but we can at least add some logic to apply scales right?

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which was summoned together by Tsunade and Sakura, logically that would mean each can summon 5%.

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is clearly not 5% its way lower than that,

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is logically closer to what 5% would be.

So Gamakicki is much smaller than Bunta.

How is Manda going to be caught by the Mokuton? He pretty much slithers out of any grip.

Same with Katsuyu who constantly divides as DB2 states she cant be captured and its only logical. Not to mention the fact that Katsuyu bypassed the god tree's absorption and was used as a foot hole for the SA.

Hashirama obviously wins but the boss summons are harder to take down than Mokuton grip and and absorb.

 

[Lord Tywin]

The scaling you did in your other post is wrong because you assumed Gamabunta and Manda are the same size as Gamakichi and Aoba.

Now Kishi's scales are highly inconsistent but we can at least add some logic to apply scales right?

This is

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which was summoned together by Tsunade and Sakura, logically that would mean each can summon 5%.

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is clearly not 5% its way lower than that,

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is logically closer to what 5% would be.

So Gamakicki is much smaller than Bunta.

How is Manda going to be caught by the Mokuton? He pretty much slithers out of any grip.

Same with Katsuyu who constantly divides as DB2 states she cant be captured and its only logical. Not to mention the fact that Katsuyu bypassed the god tree's absorption and was used as a foot hole for the SA.

Hashirama obviously wins but the boss summons are harder to take down than Mokuton grip and and absorb.

manda and gamabunta get pummeled to shit. Katsuya gets absorbed by wood dragon.

 

[KidGamer65]

The scaling you did in your other post is wrong because you assumed Gamabunta and Manda are the same size as Gamakichi and Aoba.

Now Kishi's scales are highly inconsistent but we can at least add some logic to apply scales right?

This is

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which was summoned together by Tsunade and Sakura, logically that would mean each can summon 5%.

You must be registered for see links

is clearly not 5% its way lower than that,

You must be registered for see links

is logically closer to what 5% would be.

So Gamakicki is much smaller than Bunta.

How is Manda going to be caught by the Mokuton? He pretty much slithers out of any grip.

Same with Katsuyu who constantly divides as DB2 states she cant be captured and its only logical. Not to mention the fact that Katsuyu bypassed the god tree's absorption and was used as a foot hole for the SA.

Hashirama obviously wins but the boss summons are harder to take down than Mokuton grip and and absorb.

Oh lord.

1. They are the same size as their predecessors.

2. Sakura summoned the standard Katsuyu.

3. Your "this can't be 5%" statement is based off of your viewpoint, even though there is no way you can accurately judge that since both scans are in completely different perspectives.

Manda being able to slither doesn't mean that it will be able to slither away if Mokuton is wrapped around it's body. The only way it's slithers free is if the binding was loose. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Chapter 637 I believe, Aoda was caught by the Juubi's tentacles in the same fashion Mokuton would bind him, and he was rendered immobile.

The only thing you have a point about is Katsuyu since she can divide, but no she did not bypass Shinju's absorption. She was never touched by the branches. Ever.


And my scaling is perfectly legit. Compare Chou FRS to Gamakichi, then compare it to the Juubi's head. Then compare the Juubi's head to Hachibi. They are all in the same realm of size.

 

[solorflare99]

The scaling you did in your other post is wrong because you assumed Gamabunta and Manda are the same size as Gamakichi and Aoba.

Now Kishi's scales are highly inconsistent but we can at least add some logic to apply scales right?

This is

You must be registered for see links

which was summoned together by Tsunade and Sakura, logically that would mean each can summon 5%.

You must be registered for see links

is clearly not 5% its way lower than that,

You must be registered for see links

is logically closer to what 5% would be.

So Gamakicki is much smaller than Bunta.

How is Manda going to be caught by the Mokuton? He pretty much slithers out of any grip.

Same with Katsuyu who constantly divides as DB2 states she cant be captured and its only logical. Not to mention the fact that Katsuyu bypassed the god tree's absorption and was used as a foot hole for the SA.

Hashirama obviously wins but the boss summons are harder to take down than Mokuton grip and and absorb.

Just to help you out a bit

Gamakichi

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Birthday: April 1st (? years old; Aries)
Height: estimate 1690 cm; Weight: ? kg; Blood Type: ?
Personality: Rough / Violent, Brave / Fearless / Daring

Gamabunta

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Birthday: January 3rd (? years old; Capricorn)
Height: estimate 1700 cm; Weight: ? kg; Blood Type: ?
Personality: Brave / Bold / Stout-hearted / Iron-Willed, Elder-brother natured

So there you go, you are right. He is bigger by a bit.

 

[KidGamer65]

Just to help you out a bit



So there you go, you are right. He is bigger by a bit.

Amazing post.