[VS] VOTE 3: Sasuke vs Naruto

[DHOH]

Yet, my post proves you wrong. It shown Naruto did grow and Sasuke was rusty by losing focus and turning his back to his opponent.

No.. How did Naruto grow?
Are you talking about when Sasuke check on Naruto after he was stab?

 

[take it easy]

It doesn't.. If anything Sasuke have superior feats... 'In general' is just your opinion.

Proof please that he has superior skills in taijutsu ? Their base stats are equal but in everything that above base Naruto shits on Sasuke.

 

[DHOH]

Proof please that he has superior skills in taijutsu ? Their base stats are equals but in everything that above base Naruto shits on Sasuke.

I'm not arguing about opinions all day. Sasuke Taijutsu skills improve with eye levels as well.. Again making them equal.

 

[take it easy]

I'm not arguing about opinions all day. Sasuke Taijutsu skills improve with eye levels as well.. Again making them equal.

Show me a single feat from Sasuke that equal FK and i will agree that theyre equals in taijutsu. I know, you cant do it.

 

[shadowcb]

No.. How did Naruto grow?
Are you talking about when Sasuke check on Naruto after he was stab?

Naruto's growth:

Naruto base scene increased. He noticed Sarada outside his door in base mode -

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Naruto saving both children at the same time using amazing base speed -

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Naruto perfectly countered Shin's "surprise" attack from his blind side -

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- Naruto used his chakra claw jutsu to stopped the blades, but also stopped Shin from further using those blades. He did all while protecting the children and keeping his attention focused on Shin. He didn't even have to look at the blades to catch each one.

Adult Shin couldn't even sneak up on him. Naruto perfectly countered Shin's attack twice -

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Naruto's base healing has increased

Naruto chakra control has increased (better partial chakra mode) -

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Naruto even created a genjutsu or genjutsu like technique -

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and he turned his enemy into his ally in an instant.

The manga showed us Sasuke he was rusty.

Sasuke failed the notice the seal on his hand even though he was looking right at it -

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- Sasuke is known for having excellent eye sight.

After Naruto was hurt Sasuke dropped his guard, turned back to Shin, and lost focus -

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- even though he was going to tell Naruto to stay focus.

 

[DHOH]

Show me a single feat from Sasuke that equal FK and i will agree that theyre equals in taijutsu. I know, you cant do it.

It's useless against Sasuke so what's the point?? That's like me saying Sasuke has better ninjutsu than Naruto but if most don't work, then what's point..

Opinions isn't winning this

 

[DHOH]

Naruto's growth:

Naruto base scene increased. He noticed Sarada outside his door in base mode -

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Naruto saving both children at the same time using amazing base speed -

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Naruto perfectly countered Shin's "surprise" attack from his blind side -

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- Naruto used his chakra claw jutsu to stopped the blades, but also stopped Shin from further using those blades. He did all while protecting the children and keeping his attention focused on Shin. He didn't even have to look at the blades to catch each one.

Adult Shin couldn't even sneak up on him. Naruto perfectly countered Shin's attack twice -

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Naruto's base healing has increased

Naruto chakra control has increased (better partial chakra mode) -

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Naruto even created a genjutsu or genjutsu like technique -

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and he turned his enemy into his ally in an instant.

The manga showed us Sasuke he was rusty.

Sasuke failed the notice the seal on his hand even though he was looking right at it -

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- Sasuke is known for having excellent eye sight.

After Naruto was hurt Sasuke dropped his guard, turned back to Shin, and lost focus -

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- even though he was going to tell Naruto to stay focus.

Lol I'm sorry but I can't take these 'feats' seriously.. If this is your proof you have my concession.

 

[take it easy]

It's useless against Sasuke so what's the point?? That's like me saying Sasuke has better ninjutsu than Naruto but if most don't work, then what's point..

Opinions isn't winning this

Useless or not, i asked proof that Sasuke has equal feats in Taijutsu.

 

[shadowcb]

Lol I'm sorry but I can't take these 'feats' seriously.. If this is your proof you have my concession.

Whether you decide to take manga facts serious or not is on you. I don't care.

 

[DHOH]

Useless or not, i asked proof that Sasuke has equals feats in Taijutsu.

When facing Naruto? Of course he does, he even have better.

 

[DHOH]

"...equals feats to FK..."

Oh no.. Sasuke does not have Taijutsu feats equal to FK.

 

[DHOH]

Well...for an Uchiha who should wield several different types of weaponry, his reflexes were too poor to deflect Shin's blades, save his child and avoid injury (something Madara for example does effortlessly based on what he showcased through the war; that he was able to engage several shinobi at close distance, evaded or defended against all their offences and reacted at a pace faster than the eye could follow). Gaiden Sasuke's reflexes in comparison, is in all honesty rubbish and have deteriorated since VoTE if anything. Using anime feats to support a Taijutsu argument disqualifies simply because Anime Taijutsu-combat scenes do not identically replicate what is shown in the Manga and in most instances exaggerate or extended Taijutsu abilities to greater extents comparing to what is shown in the Manga. (6 Tails Naruto vs Pein Anime as an example)

Also for those of us who do not appeal to Authority, that is, to rather than using Canonical evidence they take statements made by authority figures of the Naruto Saga as facts while there isn't sufficient supporting canonical evidence behind such statements----that is to say----that the Authority figure of himself cannot prove his statement via hard-copy Manga scans (it is Manga in this case since we are comparing Naruto Gaiden: Naruto vs a modified Naruto Gaiden: Sasuke). Statements as such should be dismissed because the Authority figure (Masashi) could have issued the said statement from bias, groupthink, error, ect. To draw a suitable example: If Masashi was to issue a statement to say that: Konohamaru is equal to Kaguya in terms of power/Ninjutsu while all evidence points towards the contrary, then his statement cannot be used as evidence to support such a claim. ​

Sasuke didn't have his sword and his eyes were weaken, but his reflexes were fast enough to protect his daughter which he healed from quite fast... Don't know what you expected him to do. Your opinion is different from mine.

Are you saying all of this to say Sasuke =/= Naruto?

 

[Waltz]

Sasuke didn't have his sword and his eyes were weaken, but his reflexes were fast enough to protect his daughter which he healed from quite fast... Don't know what you expected him to do. Your opinion is different from mine.

Are you saying all of this to say Sasuke =/= Naruto?

As I said an Uchiha who should wield all sorts of weaponry.

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Indeed his Douryoku was weakened but he still possessed Doujutsu. A Part-2; 3-Tomoe Sasuke showed greater reflexes even in close range.

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@ Red: No I am saying that if you are willing to make claims such as "Gaiden Sasuke's Taijutsu = Naruto's"; supply supporting or suggesting scans or Hard-facts as opposed to questionable statements and unrelated anime scenes. ​

 

[DHOH]

That's Hebi Sasuke, he no longer fight with all those weapons, he rely on jutsu mostly. Second, third and fourth scan is reflexes but he countered with a jutsu he no longer have. The others are just speed and pre cog sharingan.

There's no Taijutsu feats in the Gadien.. Meaning there's no Taijutsu feats as adults, so the movie is all we have and it's cannon so I don't see a problem with going off the only thing we have.

 

[Waltz]

That's Hebi Sasuke, he no longer fight with all those weapons, he rely on jutsu mostly. Second, third and fourth scan is reflexes but he countered with a jutsu he no longer have. The others are just speed and pre cog sharingan.

There's no Taijutsu feats in the Gadien.. Meaning there's no Taijutsu feats as adults, so the movie is all we have and it's cannon so I don't see a problem with going off the only thing we have.

Essentially you're saying Gaiden Sasuke utilizies no other weapons sides a Katana? Yeah well you're "that" guy stating that

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and that logic dictates that Gaiden's Sasuke's reflexes should, tremendously, be many times greater than Hebi Sasuke's however the Manga says it's entirely contrary.

@ Red: If Sasuke has no Taijutsu feats in the Gaiden and we are comparing Gaiden Sasuke to Gaiden Naruto then how are you claiming his Taijutsu is on par with Naruto's? You cannot use movie material because this is a modified Gaiden Sasuke. The OP clearly states that he only possesses Gaiden feats. If the OP stated Adult Sasuke then that would incorporate Gaiden as well as Movie feats. ​

 

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Naruto with low-mid difficulty.

 

[Apêx1]

Essentially you're saying Gaiden Sasuke utilizies no other weapons sides a Katana? Yeah well you're "that" guy stating that

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and that logic dictates that Gaiden's Sasuke's reflexes should, tremendously, be many times greater than Hebi Sasuke's however the Manga says it's entirely contrary.

@ Red: If Sasuke has no Taijutsu feats in the Gaiden and we are comparing Gaiden Sasuke to Gaiden Naruto then how are you claiming his Taijutsu is on par with Naruto's? You cannot use movie material because this is a modified Gaiden Sasuke. The OP clearly states that he only possesses Gaiden feats. If the OP stated Adult Sasuke then that would incorporate Gaiden as well as Movie feats. ​

When I said Gaiden feats I meant they should be taken into consideration along with all other manga or movie (canon ofc) feats. Just put that there because people tend to ignore Gaiden feats as they consider them not 'real canon'.

 

[Apêx1]

Essentially you're saying Gaiden Sasuke utilizies no other weapons sides a Katana? Yeah well you're "that" guy stating that

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and that logic dictates that Gaiden's Sasuke's reflexes should, tremendously, be many times greater than Hebi Sasuke's however the Manga says it's entirely contrary.

@ Red: If Sasuke has no Taijutsu feats in the Gaiden and we are comparing Gaiden Sasuke to Gaiden Naruto then how are you claiming his Taijutsu is on par with Naruto's? You cannot use movie material because this is a modified Gaiden Sasuke. The OP clearly states that he only possesses Gaiden feats. If the OP stated Adult Sasuke then that would incorporate Gaiden as well as Movie feats. ​

When I said Gaiden feats I meant they should be taken into consideration along with all other manga or movie (canon ofc) feats. Just put that there because people tend to ignore Gaiden feats as they consider them not 'real canon'.

 

[DHOH]

Essentially you're saying Gaiden Sasuke utilizies no other weapons sides a Katana? Yeah well you're "that" guy stating that

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and that logic dictates that Gaiden's Sasuke's reflexes should, tremendously, be many times greater than Hebi Sasuke's however the Manga says it's entirely contrary.

@ Red: If Sasuke has no Taijutsu feats in the Gaiden and we are comparing Gaiden Sasuke to Gaiden Naruto then how are you claiming his Taijutsu is on par with Naruto's? You cannot use movie material because this is a modified Gaiden Sasuke. The OP clearly states that he only possesses Gaiden feats. If the OP stated Adult Sasuke then that would incorporate Gaiden as well as Movie feats. ​

You do realize Gadien Sasuke was in about 7 chapters right? How are you expecting feats..

Lol I never read the OP so you are correct.

 

[Waltz]

@DHOH: Alright, the OP Clarifies that he has Movie feats.

OT: Sasuke takes the Cake 10/10 times since he knows Naruto's entire arsenal. He creates 6 Kage-Bunshin, one of which will Summon the Gedo Mazou and make it perform the Soul Dragon Jutsu while the original Sasuke and the other remaining 5 Bunshin engage Naruto. Biju-Dama, Chakra arms and Rasengan variants can all be countered, absorbed or deflected then there are the soul Dragon's to which Naruto has no counter and will not be able to destroy even via Kagebunshin due to the fact that Sasuke will just create a bunshin to counter it and would be able to monitor all around the Mazou via the RIn'negan's linked vision; a task that can be left to Animal path's Kuchiyose.​