[VS] VOTE 3: Sasuke vs Naruto

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Did the movie not show there equality in Taijutsu lol.

Movie maybe, but in general Naruto >Sasuke in Taijutsu. Edit: I see you deleted your comment about that Sasuke could destroy Naruto with PP, CT, Ameno and other Rinnegan jutsu.
 
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Movie maybe, but in general Naruto >Sasuke in Taijutsu. Edit: I see you deleted your comment about that Sasuke could destroy Naruto with PP, CT, Ameno and other Rinnegan jutsu.

I didn't delete anything.. And I never said sasuke would destroy Naruto with Rhodes jutsu I can he can counter with them.. Overall your opinion doesn't matter since Kishi show something completely different.. Knowing this is the last version of The two we will ever see.
 

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I didn't delete anything.. And I never said sasuke would destroy Naruto with Rhodes jutsu I can he can counter with them..
My apologises.
Overall your opinion doesn't matter since Kishi show something completely different.. Knowing this is the last version of The two we will ever see.
Doesnt matter that Kishi showed that their latest versions are equals because i said that Naruto is better in taijutsu in GENERAL.
 

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My apologises. Doesnt matter that Kishi showed that their latest versions are equals because i said that Naruto is better in taijutsu in GENERAL.

No problem..

But that's not true. That's the whole pint of Kishi showing that fight like he did.. He showed Naruto using Kenjutsu and Sasuke using Taijutsu.. There's absolutely nothing to prove Naruto is better.. In fact the only taijutsu combo he has he stole from sasuke.
 

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No problem..

But that's not true. That's the whole pint of Kishi showing that fight like he did.. He showed Naruto using Kenjutsu and Sasuke using Taijutsu.. There's absolutely nothing to prove Naruto is better.. In fact the only taijutsu combo he has he stole from sasuke.
Frog Kata and Boil release: unrivaled strenght>Lion Combo and any of his others taijutsu moves.
 

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Naruto with Kurama Avatar was equal to Sasuke with PS at VOTE 2.

Ok.

We have to assume they both grew at the same rate over the years

No, we don't, that's as baseless as it gets. Two kids can be equal in size when they're 5, that doesn't mean that they'll be equal in size by the time they become adults, not to mention that Kurama literally said that Naruto is rusty, Shin talked a whole chapter about how peace made him and Sasuke weaker, but Sasuke's weakness was explained to be lack of chakra to use his stronger techniques, whilst Naruto's was explained by Kurama's aforementioned statement.

because we have no proof if one grew more than the other. That makes Adult Sasuke with PS equal to Hokage Naruto with Kurama Avatar.

Lol what? We have Kurama's statement and Shin's statement to support Naruto not growing as much, and Kishimoto's own statement to support them being equal. If anyone doesn't have proof here is you.

Naruto can take it a step further with Ashura Avatar and destroy Sasuke, thus Naruto is stronger than Sasuke.

Except Kishimoto literally stated that they're equal overall, unless you have proof that he excluded the Ashura Avatar in his statement.

As a matter of fact, Naruto has full Kurama which means twice the firepower at VOTE 2 so he would still beat Adult Sasuke without Ashura Avatar.

And then you decided to look even more silly than you already do.

>author states that they're equal.
>one can beat the other without even using his full power.

Please, take that nonsense elsewhere.
 

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They are equal everyone that thinks they aren't get over it kishi's word>>>than your word.
 

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They are equal everyone that thinks they aren't get over it kishi's word>>>than your word.

Should I post how many times Kishis words contradict canon ? Not always his words>my words.
Frog Kata is a joke to Ridikou enhanced shinobi and boil release is gone with the other bijuu.

Doesnt change the fact that Narutos taijutsu in general>Sasukes (by feats).
 
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Should I post how many times Kishis words contradict canon ? Not always his words>my words.

Doesnt change the fact that Narutos taijutsu in general>Sasukes (by feats).

It doesn't.. If anything Sasuke have superior feats... 'In general' is just your opinion.
 

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No, we don't, that's as baseless as it gets. Two kids can be equal in size when they're 5, that doesn't mean that they'll be equal in size by the time they become adults, not to mention that Kurama literally said that Naruto is rusty, Shin talked a whole chapter about how peace made him and Sasuke weaker, but Sasuke's weakness was explained to be lack of chakra to use his stronger techniques, whilst Naruto's was explained by Kurama's aforementioned statement.

Except Naruto's battle senses were rusty. We already know Naruto couldn't have possibly gotten weaker because he now has full Kurama, thats twice the firepower, so you make no sense.

Lol what? We have Kurama's statement and Shin's statement to support Naruto not growing as much, and Kishimoto's own statement to support them being equal. If anyone doesn't have proof here is you.

I have proof Naruto has full Kurama. Their fight will come down to the exact same thing in VOTE 2, PS vs Kurama. or in other words, raw power. Who has more raw power? I have manga canon on my side that shows Naruto has twice as much as raw power at VOTE 2. Did Kurama get weaker too? Did he lose most of his raw power? Didn't think so. Even if I were to entertain the silly idea that Naruto got weaker in overall ability, the fight will always come down to their megazords and one is far stronger than the other.

Except Kishimoto literally stated that they're equal overall, unless you have proof that he excluded the Ashura Avatar in his statement.

Bruh, you're asking me for proof when I have manga canon on my side. You have a statement from the author who said they were overall equal, but that doesn't mean every single fight draws and they both die. I can go find that panel where Kishi said Izuna was , but that doesn't mean Izuna would always draw with pre EMS Madara now does it? Or what about when he said Ay's reflexes were with Minato in V1, but we know Minato shitted on him while he was in V2 in the reflex category. You can't pick and choose which statements you want to believe. That shows you are completely biased.

And then you decided to look even more silly than you already do.

>author states that they're equal.
>one can beat the other without even using his full power.

Please, take that nonsense elsewhere.

Naruto has twice as much raw power as he did in VOTE 2. If he and Sasuke repeat the same clash they did at Sasuke is losing more than his PS arm versus a BD twice as powerful then he gets killed. Fact. Do I need to mention Kurama Avatar clones who can all shoot BDs too? Or should I mention Ashura Avatar again? Didn't think so. I suggest you call it quits and accept Sasuke can't defeat Naruto.
 

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Except Naruto's battle senses were rusty. We already know Naruto couldn't have possibly gotten weaker because he now has full Kurama, thats twice the firepower, so you make no sense.



I have proof Naruto has full Kurama. Their fight will come down to the exact same thing in VOTE 2, PS vs Kurama. or in other words, raw power. Who has more raw power? I have manga canon on my side that shows Naruto has twice as much as raw power at VOTE 2. Did Kurama get weaker too? Did he lose most of his raw power? Didn't think so. Even if I were to entertain the silly idea that Naruto got weaker in overall ability, the fight will always come down to their megazords and one is far stronger than the other.



Bruh, you're asking me for proof when I have manga canon on my side. You have a statement from the author who said they were overall equal, but that doesn't mean every single fight draws and they both die. I can go find that panel where Kishi said Izuna was , but that doesn't mean Izuna would always draw with pre EMS Madara now does it? Or what about when he said Ay's reflexes were with Minato in V1, but we know Minato shitted on him while he was in V2 in the reflex category. You can't pick and choose which statements you want to believe. That shows you are completely biased.



Naruto has twice as much raw power as he did in VOTE 2. If he and Sasuke repeat the same clash they did at Sasuke is losing more than his PS arm versus a BD twice as powerful then he gets killed. Fact. Do I need to mention Kurama Avatar clones who can all shoot BDs too? Or should I mention Ashura Avatar again? Didn't think so. I suggest you call it quits and accept Sasuke can't defeat Naruto.
I've already counter all those bogus claims in my post..
 

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People need to learn the difference between actual power and battle sense.
 

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Ok.



No, we don't, that's as baseless as it gets. Two kids can be equal in size when they're 5, that doesn't mean that they'll be equal in size by the time they become adults, not to mention that Kurama literally said that Naruto is rusty, Shin talked a whole chapter about how peace made him and Sasuke weaker, but Sasuke's weakness was explained to be lack of chakra to use his stronger techniques, whilst Naruto's was explained by Kurama's aforementioned statement.



Lol what? We have Kurama's statement and Shin's statement to support Naruto not growing as much, and Kishimoto's own statement to support them being equal. If anyone doesn't have proof here is you.



Except Kishimoto literally stated that they're equal overall, unless you have proof that he excluded the Ashura Avatar in his statement.



And then you decided to look even more silly than you already do.

>author states that they're equal.
>one can beat the other without even using his full power.

Please, take that nonsense elsewhere.

Naruto's weakness (rusty) was never explained and it made no sense. In fact, it went against what the manga showed us throughout the gaiden. The manga stated Naruto's battle skills has grown dull (rusty) in gaiden chapter 6, yet prior and later chapters showed growth.

When Naruto faced child Shin he dealt with him without any problems, he perfectly countered Shin's "surprise" attack from his blind side. When he faced adult Shin he dealt with him without any problems, he easily countered both of his attacks. Adult Shin couldn't even sneak up on him. At the end of the gaiden Naruto was shown defeating the Shins in base mode. Throughout the gaiden Naruto displayed growth in battle skills, base speed, base sense ability, base healing ability, and chakra control (better partial chakra mode). He even created a genjutsu or genjutsu like technique (the one he used against child shin).

Yet, when Sasuke fought adult Shin all of a sudden we are told Naruto has gotten rusty even though he didn't fight in that chapter. Naruto was injured because of Sasuke. If Naruto was really rusty then we should have observed that throughout the entire gaiden.

Sasuke's weakness wasn't his lack of chakra. Yes, his chakra was lower than normal and couldn't use all of his jutsu, but those jutsu where limited to Susanoo, amaterasu, and maybe other MS jutsu. He could still use his rinnegan. Besides, adult Shin wasn't at a level that those jutsu would be required to defeat him. Sakura defeated him with one punch.

Sasuke's weakness was the fact he was rusty. The manga showed us he was rusty.

Sasuke failed the notice the seal on his hand even though he was looking right at it - - Sasuke is known for having excellent eye sight.

After Naruto was hurt Sasuke dropped his guard, turned back to Shin, and lost focus - to - even though he was going to tell Naruto to stay focus.
 

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Smh at those saying "Just because Kishi said they're on par, then they're on par". Kishi said that before, but Sasuke needed chakra from bijuus to be on par, while Naruto had to absorb more NE. Take off bijuus chakra and Sasuke will have nothing to even deny Naruto's avatar.
 

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People need to learn the difference between actual power and battle sense.

I'm sure everyone knows the difference. Naruto was lacking Battle sense, stated by Kyuubi, but it a bad assumption to think his growth is equal to Sasuke's. Naruto is at a desk everyday for several and several years and Sasuke is on mission for several and several years.. Besides Sasuke showed growth in the manga and movie.. Naruto didn't.
 

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I'm sure everyone knows the difference. Naruto was lacking Battle sense, stated by Kyuubi, but it a bad assumption to think his growth is equal to Sasuke's. Naruto is at a desk everyday for several and several years and Sasuke is on mission for several and several years.. Besides Sasuke showed growth in the manga and movie.. Naruto didn't.

Yet, my post proves you wrong. It shown Naruto did grow and Sasuke was rusty by losing focus and turning his back to his opponent.
 
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