MS Obito vs MS Kakashi

[Beans2]

Manga intel and Kyubi restricted.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

It ends with a duel in the Kamui dimension - Which Kakashi won, but not without sustaining injuries. This time around Obito has a spare eye for Izanagi, and while Kakashi's now battle worn, Obito has an estimated ten minutes to finish him off. Obito wins high difficulty.

 

[EZQ]

It ends with a duel in the Kamui dimension - Which Kakashi won, but not without sustaining injuries. This time around Obito has a spare eye for Izanagi, and while Kakashi's now battle worn, Obito has an estimated ten minutes to finish him off. Obito wins high difficulty.

Not necesary on the kamui dimension tough. Kakashi can warp a clone and send it to the other dimension, so Obito won't be using intangibility, meaning the fight could take place on the real dimension with no problem.

By feats, Obito without intangibility still loses to Kakashi, but i asked beans to make this thread because i know this will end up being a war, and i want to read it lmao.

 

[Ripple Hole]

Obito, could spam Kamui as the original eye wielder, and has Hashi cells,
along with years of experience with the eye.

Kakashi was also getting assistance from Kurama,
and realistically speaking going blind in the eye.
Obito also purposely had Kakashi stab him in the heart to get rid of the seal
Madara placed.

 

[Omar19992010]

I think you guys are forgetting Obito let Kakashi win.

On topic, Obito wins.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Obito wins

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito wins since it doesn't take place in his dimension and he's fresh.

1. He still has giant Kunai and Shuriken spam, which both move at high speeds since they are propelled by Kamui.
2. He still has Giant Katon.
3. Still has Flame Barrier.

Kakashi's Kamui is useless as Obito has already shown the ability to negate it, and since Kakashi can warp a clone to the other side, it's pretty much 3-Tomoe Kakashi vs. MS Obito w/ intangibility restricted, and that's a fight Obito takes. Izanagi is only icing on the cake.

 

[EZQ]

I think you guys are forgetting Obito let Kakashi win.

On topic, Obito wins.

The viz scan from that chapter showed that Obito didn't let Kakashi win.

 

[EZQ]

Obito wins since it doesn't take place in his dimension and he's fresh.

1. He still has giant Kunai and Shuriken spam, which both move at high speeds since they are propelled by Kamui.
2. He still has Giant Katon.
3. Still has Flame Barrier.

Kakashi's Kamui is useless as Obito has already shown the ability to negate it, and since Kakashi can warp a clone to the other side, it's pretty much 3-Tomoe Kakashi vs. MS Obito w/ intangibility restricted, and that's a fight Obito takes. Izanagi is only icing on the cake.

The kamui shurikens are countered by the doton wall, and this time obito can't phase trough it.

Giant fire ball is countered by going underground.

Flame barrier is useful as a defence but i don't see how this helps Obito against Kakashi. If he uses it around him as a shield then he needs intangibility to get out, and that would mean a raikiri to his body from the other dimension.

Obito would win because of the lack of knowledge on izanagi

 

[Red Slayer]

Obito Wins

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obito wins since it doesn't take place in his dimension and he's fresh.

1. He still has giant Kunai and Shuriken spam, which both move at high speeds since they are propelled by Kamui.
2. He still has Giant Katon.
3. Still has Flame Barrier.

Kakashi's Kamui is useless as Obito has already shown the ability to negate it, and since Kakashi can warp a clone to the other side, it's pretty much 3-Tomoe Kakashi vs. MS Obito w/ intangibility restricted, and that's a fight Obito takes. Izanagi is only icing on the cake.

Shuriken already got blocked
katon already dot sidestepped
kamui escapes barrier.

Not saying kakashi wins tho.

 

[KidGamer65]

The kamui shurikens are countered by the doton wall, and this time obito can't phase trough it.

Not going to work if Obito engages him in CQC and then releases the Shuriken and Kunai.

Giant fire ball is countered by going underground.

Ok.

Flame barrier is useful as a defence but i don't see how this helps Obito against Kakashi. If he uses it around him as a shield then he needs intangibility to get out, and that would mean a raikiri to his body from the other dimension.

Using it around Kakashi traps him and blocks his attack at the same time if Obito uses it fast enough. That forces him to dig underground to counter, and once he comes out Obito will be waiting for him with a Juubi Sized Katon.

Obito wins regardless of knowledge on Izanagi.

Shuriken already got blocked
katon already dot sidestepped
kamui escapes barrier.

Not saying kakashi wins tho.

Only agreed with the barrier. Forgot about Kamui for some strange reason. But lol @ him side stepping Fireball jutsu=him sidestepping Juubi sized katon.

 

[solorflare99]

The viz scan from that chapter showed that Obito didn't let Kakashi win.

How was Obito suppose to win with a hole in his chest. His objective was to make Kakashi hit him with Raikiri.

It's pretty much confirmed he let Kakashi win.

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[BenjerminGaye]

Not going to work if Obito engages him in CQC and then releases the Shuriken and Kunai.



Ok.



Using it around Kakashi traps him and blocks his attack at the same time if Obito uses it fast enough. That forces him to dig underground to counter, and once he comes out Obito will be waiting for him with a Juubi Sized Katon.

Obito wins regardless of knowledge on Izanagi.



Only agreed with the barrier. Forgot about Kamui for some strange reason. But lol @ him side stepping Fireball jutsu=him sidestepping Juubi sized katon.

Juubi sized? Surely you joke. A slower kakashi has already dodged kakazu's mask blasts which are both pretty big themselves.

 

[KidGamer65]

Juubi sized? Surely you joke. A slower kakashi has already dodged kakazu's mask blasts which are both pretty big themselves.

Not Juubi sized, but pretty close. Easily larger than Kakuzu's masks attacks, so don't compare.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Not Juubi sized, but pretty close. Easily larger than Kakuzu's masks attacks, so don't compare.

And kakashi's grown faster since then. I see no reason why he can't dodge it.

 

[KidGamer65]

And kakashi's grown faster since then. I see no reason why he can't dodge it.

Except you aren't showing that he's grown fast enough to do what you are claiming he can do, given the immense size difference between Kakuzu's Fuuton and Madara/Obito's Katon.

 

[EZQ]

Not going to work if Obito engages him in CQC and then releases the Shuriken and Kunai.

No feats of obito being able to do this while moving. If he stays still to perform this jutsu he leaves a huge opening considering Kakashi's striking speed.

Ok.

Ok

Using it around Kakashi traps him and blocks his attack at the same time if Obito uses it fast enough. That forces him to dig underground to counter, and once he comes out Obito will be waiting for him with a Juubi Sized Katon.

Obito doesn't know where Kakashi is coming from, since he can't see trough the floor. And Kakashi could just send a clone upstairs like he did to Itachi, clone feinting Obito like a clown and while he's distracted he respawns from another location and atacks.
Not to mention, he can counter the barrier using kamui on himself to scape.

Obito wins regardless of knowledge on Izanagi.

He lacks the feats. He know nothing about his abilitiy without kamui. And the only time it was shown, he lost.

Only agreed with the barrier. Forgot about Kamui for some strange reason. But lol @ him side stepping Fireball jutsu=him sidestepping Juubi sized katon.

This is not for me lol

 

[EZQ]

How was Obito suppose to win with a hole in his chest. His objective was to make Kakashi hit him with Raikiri.

It's pretty much confirmed he let Kakashi win.

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The viz scan (which has the viz translation) changes that part: Obito doesn't say i had kakashi stab it, he says Kakashi stabbed it. I don't have the link sorry, but if you want to look it up good, if you don't ,okay.

He didn't let him win. And even if he did, there's no proof the battle would've gone other wise, since Kakashi's feats > Kamuiless Obito

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Except you aren't showing that he's grown fast enough to do what you are claiming he can do, given the immense size difference between Kakuzu's Fuuton and Madara/Obito's Katon.

I see no reason to believe obito's giant katon is faster than his reg katon.