(Spoiler) Confirmed: Sasuke is the fastest Ninja alive?

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

sasuke is faster and thats without tailed beast boosts. naruto really is pathetic.

 

[TrollKing]

Naruto has body, body has speed.
And yea, Naruto kinda started specializing in speed when this happened.
Raw speed, look at distance, and effect mentioned

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Only mention of him not being on 4th's level was his inability to control the speed precisely,
to which he later perfected.

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I thought I already mentioned "consistency"

I can name you all his speed feats

1. Kisama

2. Bijuudamas blitzed

3. Kaguya blitzed

4. Blitzed sasuke when naruto was out of chakra

All of the above is only for a split of second and happened magically.

And also beside that 4-5 seconds s/t level speed feats, naruto has always been much slower than those feats even in vote2, kaguya fight, gaiden and even the movie

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Speculation . This isnt a power competition , its a speed . Kaguya reaction time > Juubi Jin Madara .

Kaguya was levitating, Madara was moving. That's a speed difference, and like I said, there is a possibility that was Ameno

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

I'm talking about his "supersonic speed" which happened only 2-3% of the time. Nb name that as pnj like kakashi's ps

Lol...thats slow af and was shown even by kn0 Naruto, Genin Lee and CM Sasuke. Right now they are MHS+ in speed. NAruto even has a mach 10000 feat in the Last.

Its stupid to deduce anything just on the basis of that clip coz they were blitzing momo in turns. Also speed and durability are things that Kishi has always been inconsistent with just like his beloved lord Toriyama. Hebi Sasuke was faster initially but Naruto reached a whole new level after SM and KCM. He out-paced Raikage who blitzed the hell outta MS Sasuke. But then that speed disappeared throughout until he gained BM. And now we are seeing that Sasuke is not only able to match Naruto's speed but is even able to hit as hard as Momo and Naruto despite not being a jin or sage. Talk about another BS, talk about another inconsistency in the series. So Sasuke can now even match BSM/RSM Naruto's strength?? Yeah right....Kishi is going senile just like his stupid idol Toriyama. :Lmao:

 

[To Whatever]

You are trying to take the credit kaguya received after 9 nukes, and contribute them all to 9 nukes. Perfect for fan logic, but not mangawise

I bet you would say nine nukes had already made kaguya's neck easier to snap :lol:

No I'm not. Those 9 nukes plus kakashi 's chidori sealed the deal. Even Sasuke and Sakura landed a hit after that.

And she didn't snap her neck. ??????

 

[TrollKing]

No I'm not. Those 9 nukes plus kakashi 's chidori sealed the deal. Even Sasuke and Sakura landed a hit after that

Then sakura is strong enough to broke kaguya's horn which naruto failed to that is my original point

 

[King Kendrick]

Kaguya was levitating, Madara was moving. That's a speed difference, and like I said, there is a possibility that was Ameno

jShe has Byakugan ,359 degrees of vision, with third eye . Plus levitation gave her a full vantage point to watch naruto and sasuke . So still... Mother of Ninshuu > Juubi Jin Madara . I dont see how moving is a speed difference if kaguya can fly at = speeds .

 

[To Whatever]

Lol...thats slow af and was shown even by kn0 Naruto, Genin Lee and CM Sasuke. Right now they are MHS+ in speed. NAruto even has a mach 10000 feet in the Last. Albeit, its stupid to deduce anything just on the basis of that clip coz they were blitzing momo in turns. Also speed and durability are things that Kishi has always been inconsistent with just like his beloved lord Toriyama. Hebi Sasuke was faster initially but Naruto reached a whole new level after SM and KCM. He out-paced Raikage who blitzed the hell outta MS Sasuke. But then that speed disappeared throughout until he gained BM. ANd now we are seeing that Sasuke is not ony able to match Naruto's speed but is even able to hit as hard as Momo and Naruto despite not being a jin or sage. Talk about another BS, talk about another inconsistency in the series. So Sasuke can now even match BSM?RSM NAruto's strength?? YEah right....Kishi is going senile just like his stupid idol Toriyama. :Lmao:

RSM doesn't have frogger Kata. If Naruto was using frogger Kata he wouldn't need to make contact with momo to send him flying.

But I guess inconsistency is there. RSM has some hitting feats against Madagascar in base form

 

[King Kendrick]

Then sakura is strong enough to broke kaguya's horn which naruto failed to that is my original point

Inability to break Fully Powered Kaguya's horn vs Ability to break Drained Kaguya's horn .... That's like saying if some puts in 20 hits on someone , they don't die , and someone else puts in 10 and they die the one who put in 10 is stronger .

 

[Ripple Hole]

I thought I already mentioned "consistency"

I can name you all his speed feats

1. Kisama

2. Bijuudamas blitzed

3. Kaguya blitzed

4. Blitzed sasuke when naruto was out of chakra

All of the above is only for a split of second and happened magically.

And also beside that 4-5 seconds s/t level speed feats, naruto has always been much slower than those feats even in vote2, kaguya fight, gaiden and even the movie

-Denies all evidence and calls magic due to the sheer amount of crazy speed-
Isn't the fact that it was a "split of a second" only supporting the fact he's fast?

You're just accepting what he blitzed, but not what he did.

1. He displayed a yellow flash, that'd require somewhere near the 4Th's speed.

2. Ran across mountains before TBBS could land, deflecting them without fail.

3. Your feat not mine.

4. Your feat not mine.

> Gonna ignore you think he only has 4 speed feats

I can name you all his speed feats

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

RSM doesn't have frogger Kata. If Naruto was using frogger Kata he wouldn't need to make contact with momo to send him flying.

Never talked about Kata. I m talking about strength. And that frog Kata was forgotten by Kishi long ago. Even BSM Naruto didn't use it. Lol.
I was one of the biggest Fan of Kishi on this site but not anymore. I have been enlightened. xd

 

[To Whatever]

Then sakura is strong enough to broke kaguya's horn which naruto failed to that is my original point

He tore off her arm and made her unstable. Why do I care about a horn when Naruto never directly attacked it.

Stop using abc logic.

 

[TrollKing]

Lol...thats slow af and was shown even by kn0 Naruto, Genin Lee and CM Sasuke. Right now they are MHS+ in speed. NAruto even has a mach 10000 feet in the Last. Albeit, its stupid to deduce anything just on the basis of that clip coz they were blitzing momo in turns. Also speed and durability are things that Kishi has always been inconsistent with just like his beloved lord Toriyama. Hebi Sasuke was faster initially but Naruto reached a whole new level after SM and KCM. He out-paced Raikage who blitzed the hell outta MS Sasuke. But then that speed disappeared throughout until he gained BM. ANd now we are seeing that Sasuke is not ony able to match Naruto's speed but is even able to hit as hard as Momo and Naruto despite not being a jin or sage. Talk about another BS, talk about another inconsistency in the series. So Sasuke can now even match BSM?RSM NAruto's strength?? YEah right....Kishi is going senile just like his stupid idol Toriyama. :Lmao:

Your first point is bsm naruto reached a whole new level than sasuke - last time I checked naruto couldn't blitz sasuke. So much for the "whole new level"

Sasuke was matching naruto's speed even in war arc. What did you read really?

Character growth =\= inconsistency

If kishi gives sasuke supersonic speed and take it away, its inconsistency and the speed is not creditable(pnj)

If naruto gained speed and be fast forever, that's character's growth and is consistent and creditable

 

[Ripple Hole]

Now you are assuming naruto is strong enough to break kaguya like sakura. You might believe he's actually strong enough to snap her neck if he wanted to

Strong enough to rip an arm :b
You claimed Naruto failed when he never even tried to break it.
All Nips said was he gave zero fycks if Naruto broke it or not, considering
Naruto never tried.

Nips never made a claim..... not sure where you're seeing it...

 

[To Whatever]

Now you are assuming naruto is strong enough to break kaguya like sakura. You might believe he's actually strong enough to snap her neck if he wanted to

How is saying "he never attacked it directly" assuming he's strong enough to break her horn?

Lol

 

[TrollKing]

-Denies all evidence and calls magic due to the sheer amount of crazy speed-
Isn't the fact that it was a "split of a second" only supporting the fact he's fast?

You're just accepting what he blitzed, but not what he did.

1. He displayed a yellow flash, that'd require somewhere near the 4Th's speed.

2. Ran across mountains before TBBS could land, deflecting them without fail.

3. Your feat not mine.

4. Your feat not mine.

> Gonna ignore you think he only has 4 speed feats

I'm referring all naruto's speed including his "top feats" while you only hanging on his only feats. Who's denying manga?

You are saying naruto so fast, me giving him 4 seconds speed feats in 4-5 panels in whole manga is overstatement

If you read the context, you would not need to open up a science book and start using fan logic that kishi cared less about

 

[Ripple Hole]

I'm referring all naruto's speed including his "top feats" while you only hanging on his only feats. Who's denying manga?

You are saying naruto so fast, me giving him 4 seconds speed feats in 4-5 panels in whole manga is overstatement

If you read the context, you would not need to open up a science book and start using fan logic that kishi cared less about

Why should a feat that requires being fast, aka requiring shorter time, force me to display him running
for longer periods of time than needed?
You're asking me to show him running slowly in a nutshell.

 

[TrollKing]

How is saying "he never attacked it directly" assuming he's strong enough to break her horn?

Lol

I'm saying sakura is strong enough to break kaguya's bone while naruto could only send her flying at best. The only way to deny it is to believe naruto can break kaguya bones too. And yes naruto attacked kaguya directly like sakura , but right on her face/head

 

[Ripple Hole]

I'm saying sakura is strong enough to break kaguya's bone while naruto could only send her flying at best. The only way to deny it is to believe naruto can break kaguya bones too. And yes naruto attacked kaguya directly like sakura , but right on her face/head

What if I told you, Nips never denied and just said it was irrelevant?
What if I told you horns aren't on your face, but your head?
What if I told you, I swear you have no clue what you're even attempting to fight against?

 

[TrollKing]

Why should a feat that requires being fast, aka requiring shorter time, force me to display him running
for longer periods of time than needed?
You're asking me to show him running slowly in a nutshell.

You are right when you disregard the consistency. When its not consistent, we Nb calls that "pnj"/***pull

Including all the speed feats you referring to, sasuke always matched up with naruto right away, the feats couldn't prove naruto is faster than sasuke