sasuke the fastest shinobi

[Blackzoro]

Sasuke didn't use Amenote and naruto didn't use five tails steam.

It's a simple footspeed

What five tail steam u mean the form he used against pain?

 

[Nick01]

this is real speed not sauce short span shushin

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This.

 

[Nick01]

And Naruto would have been dead against kakazu if not for yamato and kakashi. Or against nagato if not for kyubi and again with his amazing speed couldn't even match a crippled nagato if not for itachi. I don't understand the point of false wank.

And sasuke would be dead if it not for karin, suigetsu, and jugo.

 

[Nick01]

so real speed is using 9 bijuu power, you naruto fanboys never cease to amaze with your stupidity

The same could be said for sasukes sharingan.

 

[salamander uchiha]

And sasuke would be dead if it not for karin, suigetsu, and jugo.

Did I state he wouldn't? I don't false wank.

 

[salamander uchiha]

The same could be said for sasukes sharingan.

Not really sharingan doesn't enhance speed it enhances perception

 

[xxSAGExx]

You can't make an assumption common sense, even if something like that were to happen and gaara didn't intervene, plot kind of demands sasuke to be alive, raikage would need to smash through Enton spikes and a Ameterasu armor, if we were going by common sense, the spikes would shive the raikage and he taps ribcage, it's like if I shot a pistol through one wall, the wall would slow down it's momentum tremendously before it even gets to the second wall.

And agree on what? What I agree on is that raikage isn't fodder in general, but he's fodder to Demi-god and godlike opponents, otherwise you aren't taking the raikage down easily. The closest non-Demi god or godlike opponent that can take raikage without ocular powers or tailed beast, is other kage, might gai, and kisame. Showing that raikage is definitely not fodder.

Except that Gaara intervening was the plot being on Sasuke's side; if it wasn't then A would have killed Sasuke and A would only be further injured. The chapter starts with Kishi writing is this the end of Sasuke's hatred then we get Gaara stopping A. When A asked Gaara why he intervened he said it's because A would have gotten further injured (not killed) and he wanted to talk to Sasuke (so he couldn't talk to Sasuke if A's attack went through). Gaara is plot, not plot means Sasuke does there. A's skins is really tough, he was able to survive being teleport by a jutsu that is stated that no one but the 3rd Raikage who had steel like skin and iron blood; Tsunade needed to use her Yin seal to heal from it while A took it. His lightning Armor increases his defense and its lightning which has cutting power. Sasuke's Enton has more cutting power when he coats Enton on a solid weapon like his Susanoo blade or arrow. Also A was aiming for the big gap in Susanoo rib so it would be a direct hit to Sasuke. A threw away his hand just to hit Sasuke, had it been a more level headed A then he wouldn't have down that but use his head to know that keeping Susanoo up with Amaterasu on it is wasting Sasuke's chakra.

And Naruto would have been dead against kakazu if not for yamato and kakashi. Or against nagato if not for kyubi and again with his amazing speed couldn't even match a crippled nagato if not for itachi. I don't understand the point of false wank.

You do know that in all of those examples that you listed that Naruto wasn't at full power right? Naruto went to help Kakashi and team 10 right after training; Kakashi who has MS said Naruto was on his level or surpassed it. This is also when FRS was only at about 50% completed so it's not like he had things in his favor unless he teamed up with Yamato, Kakashi, Ino, and or Choji. Naruto was training before he returned back to Konoha and considering that Kurama is Naruto's power you basically said Naruto did it himself; Naruto did have help info wise from the slug who got info from Shikamaru group and Shizune and Inoichi. Nagato was too strong so yes Naruto needed to use Kurama chakra. Edo Madara only got A in a genjutsu because A was distracted by Tsunade getting hit and he wasn't moving at that point; but yes Edo Madara can beat A easily but that's because he's so strong.

Not really sharingan doesn't enhance speed it enhances perception

You gain more chakra as you level up the Sharingan from 3T to MS to EMS to Rinnegan though; if the reserves doesn't increase then it wouldn't make sense for Sasuke to have such reserves as MS Sasuke, EMS Sasuke, or Rinnegan Sasuke. Their chakra also gets more powerful which Sasuke can use to increase his Shunshin speed.

I don't think you read my post at all :|, I never once said the Raikage was fodder I said that he was fodder when compared to the likes of rinnegan sasuke and madara, same for konohamaru, he's not fodder but he's fodder when compared to the likes of say juubi Jin Obito. And we don't know what would've happened if Gaara didn't intervene, what you're making is an assumption, it could've gone two ways, raikage breaks susano, loses a leg sasuke dies, Doesn't break susano , loses a leg. Also that was spiked amerasu a.k.a Enron, we don't know if the defenses of Susano and Ameterasu would've been enough, but one things for sure, raikage was dying either way, this is an assumption on my part but given by what we've seen from Ameterasu it's death, at least we didn't see the end result and gaara intervened, sadly if gaara didn't, plot would be on sasuke's side. I


I never said saauke wasn't having a hard time either hence why I didn't say raikage wasn't fodder, however, we don't know how raikage would fair against EMS Sasuke, MS sasuke's susano ribcage could survive a decent amount of attacks from the raikage, not to talk of complete and final susano, and EMS Sasuke having better clarity and eyes than MS sasuke. But even then in a fight Raikage wouldn't be fodder, raikage would get stomped by rinnegan sasuke unless you want to honestly make an argument for this. Madara does have more experience, which is why I obviously listed him as fodderizing raikage, but rinnegan sasuke is above Edo Madara so my point still stands. Heck madara negged the raikage with genjutsu alone, that was 1 v 1 right there and it was so casual . Raikage isn't fodder but it takes an extremely strong opponent to beat him. Like I said he isn't fodder but compared to opponents like RSM Naruto, rinnegan sasuke, momoshiki, etc, yes, he's fodder in that area.

Gaara said himself that A would only be further injured not killed; so A would have lost his leg by cutting it off after killing Sasuke. A's hand was still on fire yet it was burning slow and he didn't cut off his hand until after Gaara intervene and he has a medic ninja to heal him so he doesn't bleed out. A was aiming for the open area in Susanoo rib so only Enton spikes were an obstacle. A's skin is really tough plus he has his armor which increases his speed, power, and defense so Enton spikes which is only shape manipulated Amaterasu wouldn't be as strong as Enton coat blade or arrow which Sasuke uses later on. A's power is enough to 1 hit kill someone, KM Naruto said taking a direct hit from A would be bad and KM gives Naruto better defense than a normal person (he didn't learn to increase his defense until later on).

A was fighting against 5 Susanoo Madara clones as was each Kage, A got distracted after Tsunade was hit which is when Edo Madara took advantage so no it wasn't a 1 on 1; Madara himself called the fight 5 on 1 when he made the 25 clones. Edo Madara beats A but not like that; also note Edo Madara was not one bit serious and called the fight child's play.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto has kyubi recovery speed him being or not being at full chakra is irrelevant his chakra increased since jiraiya used the seal it's likely his recovery speed and stamina increased at a rapid rate. So your point is mute him having full chakra or not is irrelevant to his battle speed. Also kurama is not a part of narutos power naruto begs him for help there's a clear difference when do you beg a part of yourself for anything or request a part of your power for anything.
Naruto is incompetent and without external interference factors out of his control he'd have died in all his such encounters. This is fodderitis at its pinacle (p's who said dead nagato was at full power). Or a transmitted pain path that solo'd him from an exhausted nagato. Or a kakazu who lost multiple hearts and had been battling for a considerable time. And they don't have kyubi recovery speed or healing access. So your points kind of invalid. Try again
P's. You might as well add minato redoing the seal as part of his power or kushina helping and saving him as a part of his power while your at it. Or obito plot hole jutsu transferring yin kurama as a part of his power and on and on.
Show the scan which says reserves increase with sharingan level up or speed increases with level up and I'll concede defeat on that point.

 

[Berner]

The same could be said for sasukes sharingan.

so now sasuke rinn sharigin is due to 9 bijuu giving him charka and advice

 

[shelke]

Sasuke by feats and portrayal is faster at every level. NBers opinions have no value before the presented Manga evidence.