[VS] VOTE 3: Sasuke vs Naruto

[DHOH]

@KG

1. Sasuke's chakra grew stronger and larger.. Don't know what is hard to understand.

2. Wrong. Sasuke's chakra grew bigger and more powerful with every evolution of Susanoo... Shown and stated in the manga.

3.wrong... Again proven by the manga.. Sasuke's chakra pool grew larger and stronger in the last 15 years.. That's the whole reason why Sasuke was able to open Kaguya's dimension, and the reason he says "it takes a lot of chakra"... Sasuke's chakra probably didn't get any stronger after his Rikoudo power up, but manga fact shows it gotten larger.

About Naruto's development is 100% speculation.. If anything he's gotten weaker imo.

 

[DHOH]

Agreeing with this. Even without the movie statement we would just scale up from VOTE2, which means Sasuke wouldnt even make it past Mid Diff without the excess nature energy.

Imo:

The Last Naruto (w/RBSM) >= Hokage Naruto > VOTE2 Naruto = VOTE2 Sasuke (w/Bijuu) > The Last Sasuke > Adult Sasuke > VOTE2 Sasuke (w/o Bijuu)

I disagree. Gadien Sasuke is stronger than vote sasuke.

 

[Chaosmark101]

I disagree. Gadien Sasuke is stronger than vote sasuke.

Gaiden Sasuke doesn't even have Six Paths chakra. Nor the Bijuu. Like VOTE2 Sasuke.

Vote2 Sasuke > The Last Sasuke >> Rinnegan Sasuke>=Gaiden Sasuke

 

[DHOH]

Gaiden Sasuke doesn't even have Six Paths chakra. Nor the Bijuu. Like VOTE2 Sasuke.

Vote2 Sasuke > The Last Sasuke >> Rinnegan Sasuke>=Gaiden Sasuke

Rinnegan proves Sasuke has So6p's chakra.. And what makes you think the last Sasuke is stronger than Gadien Sasuke?

 

[Chaosmark101]

Rinnegan proves Sasuke has So6p's chakra.. And what makes you think the last Sasuke is stronger than Gadien Sasuke?

Hagoromo's chakra =/= Rikudo chakra. As seen with Kakashi.

And I believe The Last Sasuke is Much stronger than Gaiden Sasuke since he had 2 more years worth of experience with his Rinnegan & EMS. + Could One shot building size meteors with Chidori

 

[DHOH]

Hagoromo's chakra =/= Rikudo chakra. As seen with Kakashi.

And I believe The Last Sasuke is Much stronger than Gaiden Sasuke since he had 2 more years worth of experience with his Rinnegan & EMS. + Could One shot building size meteors with Chidori

Lol they are the same person.

How is 2 years better than 15??

If two years could do that with Chidori imagine what 15 years can do with it.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Lol they are the same person.

How is 2 years better than 15??

If two years could do that with Chidori imagine what 15 years can do with it.

Proof he still had it? It sure didn't seem like it.

Edit:& Besides VOTE2 Sasuke could do far stronger attacks in the form of PS Swords & PS Chidori. Than "The Last Sasuke's" meteor busting chidori.

His later versions lack feats

 

[KidGamer65]

@KG

1. Sasuke's chakra grew stronger and larger.. Don't know what is hard to understand.

2. Wrong. Sasuke's chakra grew bigger and more powerful with every evolution of Susanoo... Shown and stated in the manga.

3.wrong... Again proven by the manga.. Sasuke's chakra pool grew larger and stronger in the last 15 years.. That's the whole reason why Sasuke was able to open Kaguya's dimension, and the reason he says "it takes a lot of chakra"... Sasuke's chakra probably didn't get any stronger after his Rikoudo power up, but manga fact shows it gotten larger.

Are you just going to echo everything I say at this point?

1. Already stated that. Please read before you reply. Larger is irrelevant though.

2. Irrelevant. Sasuke Susanoo got stronger because he upgraded it and when he did his chakra grew. (even though his charka growing in size is a speculation, like over half the nonsense in your post. Doesn't prove that his chakra growing in size has anything to do with the power of his Susanoo.

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-Already stated his chakra got stronger.
-Already stated that his chakra got larger.
-It getting larger is irrelevant to the power of his Susanoo.

Lmao, you are only wasting both our time considering nothing you are saying even begins to prove that Adult Sasuke's PS=Naruto's Ashura Avatar.

About Naruto's development is 100% speculation.. If anything he's gotten weaker imo.

Your chakra doesn't get weaker as you reach your physical and mental prime. Lmao. Makes zero sense. Naruto's development is common sense, and it's even backed by fact so I'm not sure what kind of argument you think you have, but it's nonexistent. In BSM his Chou Oodama Rasengan Barrage is enough to blow up the Gudo Dama when in the Manga they tanked his Bijuu Dama. That's growth.

 

[KidGamer65]

Gaiden Sasuke doesn't even have Six Paths chakra. Nor the Bijuu. Like VOTE2 Sasuke.

Vote2 Sasuke > The Last Sasuke >> Rinnegan Sasuke>=Gaiden Sasuke

Hagoromo's chakra =/= Rikudo chakra. As seen with Kakashi.

And I believe The Last Sasuke is Much stronger than Gaiden Sasuke since he had 2 more years worth of experience with his Rinnegan & EMS. + Could One shot building size meteors with Chidori

Not sure where this "Sasuke lost his powers" argument came from, but it's even worse than the "Naruto lost RSM" argument considering:

1. There is no indication he lost his powers.
2. There would be no reason for him to lose his powers.

Hagoromo's chakra is Rikudo Chakra and vice versa. The only reason it's called "Rikudo Chakra" is because it's from Rikudo Sennin. The only difference between the chakra Madara got when he awakened Rinnegan and Naruto and Sasuke's chakra and Kakashi's chakra is the quality. It's all Hagoromo's power.

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How does that even make sense? You think The Last Sasuke>>Gaiden Sasuke because "2 years experience", when Gaiden Sasuke has 15 years of experience with his abilities. 15 yrs of growth. :lol

 

[DHOH]

Proof he still had it? It sure didn't seem like it.

Edit:& Besides VOTE2 Sasuke could do far stronger attacks in the form of PS Swords & PS Chidori. Than "The Last Sasuke's" meteor busting chidori.

His later versions lack feats

Rinnegan proves it.

He use the same Susanno that perform those feats, don't see why he couldn't now..

@KG
Vote Sasuke could not get out of Kaguya's dimension.. Gadien Sasuke can now travel there and Stated it takes a lot of chakra but that isn't prove lol..

Sasuke's susanoo grew bigger, stronger and more powerful everytime Sasuke's chakra pool increased and his chakra got stronger... If you can't see that then read the manga..

As for Naruto, he lacks all the bijuu chakra.. No bijuu kkg or TSB... Weaker imo..

 

[Lord Tywin]

Sasuke without the bijuus chakra can't hang with Naruto. Rinnegan mastered or not.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Not sure where this "Sasuke lost his powers" argument came from, but it's even worse than the "Naruto lost RSM" argument considering:

1. There is no indication he lost his powers.
2. There would be no reason for him to lose his powers.

Not at all, how is losing his new mode the same as loosing chakra? It'd be worse if I said Sasuke lost his Rinnegan but that's obviously false. Neither would loose their transformations but chakra is entirely possible.

Hagoromo's chakra is Rikudo Chakra and vice versa. The only reason it's called "Rikudo Chakra" is because it's from Rikudo Sennin. The only difference between the chakra Madara got when he awakened Rinnegan and Naruto and Sasuke's chakra and Kakashi's chakra is the quality. It's all Hagoromo's power.

Obtaining Hagoromo's chakra grants the user the Rinnegan. There is an obvious distinction since Kakashi had Rikudo chakra & He didn't manifest Rinnegan (which your saying = Rikudo chakra) & Nagato who had Hagoromo's chakra in his eye sockets. But doesn't seem to have a Rikudo chakra buff like the others.

How does that even make sense? You think The Last Sasuke>>Gaiden Sasuke because "2 years experience", when Gaiden Sasuke has 15 years of experience with his abilities. 15 yrs of growth. :lol

Hey I believed chapter 700 Sasuke too be much stronger than Rinnegan Sasuke. But Gaiden Sasuke Was not very impressive.
1. He was weaker
2. Loses his powers from Dimension shifting (his chakra grew though)
3. Reacts far slower than the last Sasuke & Rinnegan Sasuke

Thats all

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Rinnegan mastery means nothing without Bijuus chakra,and thats only to match 50 % Kurama . Full Kurama is superior to Sasuke PS.

Naruto mid diff

 

[DHOH]

Not at all, how is losing his new mode the same as loosing chakra? It'd be worse if I said Sasuke lost his Rinnegan but that's obviously false. Neither would loose their transformations but chakra is entirely possible.


Obtaining Hagoromo's chakra grants the user the Rinnegan. There is an obvious distinction since Kakashi had Rikudo chakra & He didn't manifest Rinnegan (which your saying = Rikudo chakra) & Nagato who had Hagoromo's chakra in his eye sockets. But doesn't seem to have a Rikudo chakra buff like the others.


Hey I believed chapter 700 Sasuke too be much stronger than Rinnegan Sasuke. But Gaiden Sasuke Was not very impressive.
1. He was weaker
2. Loses his powers from Dimension shifting (his chakra grew though)
3. Reacts far slower than the last Sasuke & Rinnegan Sasuke

Thats all

Chapter 700 Sasuke is gadien sasuke.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Chapter 700 Sasuke is gadien sasuke.

Smh you didn't read my post

 

[DHOH]

Rinnegan mastery means nothing without Bijuus chakra,and thats only to match 50 % Kurama . Full Kurama is superior to Sasuke PS.

Naruto mid diff

I don't understand this.. Sasuke use bijuu to level up his Susanoo, that's it... Now he has the chakra to level up his Susano without the bijuu. That's evident in the new movie.

 

[DHOH]

Smh you didn't read my post

I read your post.. You contradicted yourself. First you says you believes he's stronger than vote 2 Saauke but than says he weaker, which is false. Then complain about him losing power from dimension swapping which vote 2 sasuke couldn't do. Third says he reacts slower then the last Sasuke.. But common sense says 15>>> 2 years of everything.

 

[King Of Pop]

Proof he still had it? It sure didn't seem like it.

Edit:& Besides VOTE2 Sasuke could do far stronger attacks in the form of PS Swords & PS Chidori. Than "The Last Sasuke's" meteor busting chidori.

His later versions lack feats

there is nothing indicating he doesnt have it. why would he lose it?

not sure how the bold makes sense. are you saying the last sasuke cant do ps chidori or ps sword? his chidori is much stronger than his vote self outside of ps.

lack of feats doesnt mean hes weaker than before. he can shift dimensions, something he couldnt do before which shows he improved further.your chakra logically grows stronger as you age, gaiden sasuke would shit all over his last counterpart.

 

[Brooks]

There is no way to scale adult Sasuke without the movie and making a statement like the last Sasuke being stronger than his adult version is pretty much retarded.​

 

[LuckyMan]

There is no way to scale adult Sasuke without the movie and making a statement like the last Sasuke being stronger than his adult version is pretty much retarded.​

He's already been scaled. He and Naruto were on par basically in the movie but Naruto didn't use Ashura Avatar, while Sasuke was using his best thing, PS, so Naruto is stronger.