Muu and Onoki clashed Jinton off panel

[Beans2]

I am tired of having to correct the misconception that Onoki has poor chakra reserves and will tire out after using a few Jintons, so I'm explaining this off panel feat to show that's not the case whatsoever.

As you can see

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, Muu and Onoki fired Jintons at each other.

When they collided, the result was a giant spherical Jinton explosion. [

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This explosion left a giant spherical imprint in the ground. [

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In the bottom panel of this scan, we see many large spherical imprints in the rock formations.

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A closer look.

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Conclusion is that Muu and Onoki clashed jintons at least nine times off panel.

 

[Nattana]

I think we knew that ever since the chapter was released?

But it's more than likely that many people missed that, so your thread does a good job at presenting their feats.

 

[SayWhat21]

i see

 

[nandachikara]

agreed,beside that muu is an edo with unlimited chakra pool,while onoki is a living being with limited chakra and stamina,beside he is old like old man sarutobi.saru had the same problem with chakra when he fought the edo kages.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Or muu was just firing at him and missing.

Or they were alternately firing at each other and missing.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Yeah I agree with this. It definitely wasn't shown but a lot of Jintons must have been clashed and Ohonoki has high base reserves. He could stop Muu's Jinton as well as hold up one of Madara's meteors by making the meteor a lightweight. Also take a look at that landscape obviously one Jinton couldn't have done that much damage, must have been a couple to cut of rock and boulders.

 

[Amaterasu]

Indeed, Ohnoki got a great chakra reserves, controlling Jinton alone demand a great chakra pool, but your analysis is objective and superficial, the number of rocks destroyed in the last panel you showed is only superficial, Kishi could have showed 3 to 15 rocks destroyed spherically, it wouldn't have changed the consensus : Ohnoki has large chakra pool. Liked.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I still don't understand how horizen beats him ( a lot of ppl believe this) maybe prime but old onooki vs old hurizen onooki seems stronger even with hurizen Edo feats

 

[BlacLord™]

Or muu was just firing at him and missing.

Or they were alternately firing at each other and missing.

This.

Ōnoki was 79 years old at that point; he, Mū and Gengetsu all remarked on his age affecting his performance. His chakra reserves are a shadow compared to his younger self.

Even Hiruzen was a good deal younger than that when he fought Oro; and he was exhausted after a couple of basic nature ninjutsu and a couple of Kage Bunshins.

 

[Icelerate]

How exactly can you be so sure that a singular usage of jinton doesn't create a spherical imprint?

 

[KesOnFire]

Powerful indeed

 

[Gein]

Wish he would have seen more Jinton beyond the basic literal disintegration

 

[solorflare99]

It's Onoki's poor stamina it is his poor back.

 

[Beans2]

How exactly can you be so sure that a singular usage of jinton doesn't create a spherical imprint?

The shape of the imprint has always shown to be the same shape as the jinton explosion. Muu and Onoki cannot make spherical jintons, they were only shown to make cube, cone, and cylinder jintons.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Exactly, how do you know Mu didnt just fire and miss several jintons. Who says ohnoki was also firing off his own?

 

[Apêx1]

No. It's conjecture to say those were all independent Jinton's. 8/9 could be 1 Jinton. 2/5 could be one Jinton. 7/6 could be 1 Jinton. And then we also have the fact that not all of those were fired by Onoki alone, they could be half Mu and Onoki. So it could be about 2-3 Jinton's each. Not sure how this is supposed to debunk the notion that Onoki is incapable of spamming Jinton.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Or even Perhaps Ohnoki kade several rock clones. Therefore Mu wiped them each out one by one in order to pinpoint the real Ohonoki. This thread doesnt debunk jack.

 

[Beans2]

No. It's conjecture to say those were all independent Jinton's. 8/9 could be 1 Jinton.

Not possible. If 8 and 9 were created from 1 jinton, it would have to be a lagre spherical jinton explosion since those two rock formations are far apart. If it were that large, rock formations 6 and 7 would have pieces of them cut out on their right sides but they don't.

2/5 could be one Jinton.

Not sure how you could possibly interpret that to be the result of one jinton. #2 has a most of a sphere shape cut out of it and #5 is further away with a sphere cut out of it from a different angle.

7/6 could be 1 Jinton.

Nope. Visualize a jinton there and it doesn't work. If 6 and 7 were the result of the same jinton, the imprint left on #7 would be much steeper similar to #4.

And then we also have the fact that not all of those were fired by Onoki alone, they could be half Mu and Onoki. So it could be about 2-3 Jinton's each.

No because those are spherical imprints in the rocks. Muu and Onoki can't make spherical jinton by themselves.

Not sure how this is supposed to debunk the notion that Onoki is incapable of spamming Jinton.

That notion isn't supported by anything in the manga in the first place.

 

[Beans2]

Exactly, how do you know Mu didnt just fire and miss several jintons. Who says ohnoki was also firing off his own?

I feel like you completely ignored what was presented in the OP. The imprint that Jinton leaves in rocks is identical to the shape of the explosion [

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]. Those were spherical imprints in the rocks. Muu and Onoki don't have spherical jinton, they only have cylinder, cone, and cube jinton. A spherical jinton explosion is only created when two jintons are clashed like I showed in the OP.