Whose fault is it if you accept an offer with too many disadvantages?

[Narutobirama]

Tobirama offered Uchiha the control of police force. They accepted and they were proud of it. And now people say that Uchiha were treated unfairly because controlling police force means making certain disadvantages, such as living in the outskirts being preferable or people not liking police force.

So, if they were offered jobs in Hokage building, people would complain because being there means a lot of paperwork.

If they were offered the control of academy, people would complain because working with children can sometimes be hard.

Tobirama did not force them to do any of that, so why do you make him out to be unfair.

He even said he did not hate them. Was offering them control of police force strategic move to keep them under control? Yes, but that does not matter because Uchiha accepted and they were proud of it.

 

[Simbv]

They were proud of it untill they knew the true intentions of why they were offered the job of poilce force, OUTSIDE the village

 

[Narutobirama]

They were proud of it untill they knew the true intentions of why they were offered the job of poilce force, OUTSIDE the village

That is not his problem. He offered them, if they figured it would not be a good move for them, they should have rejected. And if they weren't capable of understanding that, it is not Tobirama's fault. His actions were a sign of trust.

 

[Power Bottom]

Tobirama was a racist

 

[Narutobirama]

Tobirama was a racist

Uchiha are not a race. And Tobirama did not discriminate them. They willingly accepted Tobirama's offer.

 

[ANiMUS]

Being isolated in the village made the Uchiha feel alien (like outsiders) in the eyes of the village. Since the police are normally disliked narrowing it down to one clan was a mistake even if it was done with good intentions.

The Uchiha's main gripe was that they were kept out of important offices, disliked by the ppl, and not trusted by the village when they honestly had done nothing wrong.

I am not saying they were justified in their course of action btw. Still OP your way of viewing things is rather biased. U r ignoring the fact that Tobirama failed to forsee potential problems and just passing it off as the victim's whining

 

[Simbv]

That is not his problem. He offered them, if they figured it would not be a good move for them, they should have rejected. And if they weren't capable of understanding that, it is not Tobirama's fault. His actions were a sign of trust.

Its not his problem but he still takes responsiblity. They proudly accepted because they though that they were offered that position because Tobirama accepted and valued their strength, when in reality, he distrusted them.

 

[Atari]

Orochimaru: But you're the one who drove the Uchiha to it, Lord Second...
It could be said that the seeds got sown with the Uchiha Police Force that you created.
Tobirama: What do you say?
Orochimaru: Those who crack down on crime ten to be easily disliked. The more authority such a group has, the more conceited it can get. By building the Police Station next to the prison under the pretext of facilitating the monitoring of criminals, you conspicuously shoved the Uchiha Clan to the mariins of the village. That's what fostered the adherents to Madara.

 

[Narutobirama]

Orochimaru: It could be said that the seeds got sown with the Uchiha Police Force that you created.
Tobirama: What do you say?
Orochimaru: Those who crack down on crime ten to be easily disliked. The more authority such a group has, the more conceited it can get. By building the Police Station next to the prison under the pretext of facilitating the monitoring of criminals, you conspicuously shoved the Uchiha Clan to the mariins of the village. That's what fostered the adherents to Madara.

This only proves my point. People blame him for doing it even though Uchiha accepted. If they did not like it, they could've decided not to control police force.

 

[Sasuke tyeezy]

Uchiha are not a race. And Tobirama did not discriminate them. They willingly accepted Tobirama's offer.

Yes he did, he even had something negative to say when he found out Sasuke was an Uchiha. Stop wanking him.

Tobirama feared the Uchiha point blank period.

 

[King Kendrick]

That tobirama wank .

OT : He was discriminating, and wanted to control the uchihas . #mangaphax .

 

[Narutobirama]

Yes he did, he even had something negative to say when he found out Sasuke was an Uchiha. Stop wanking him.

Tobirama feared the Uchiha point blank period.

No, he did not. He only said: "He is an Uchiha, no wonder he is with criminals."

Which was both true and nothing new, considering it was established that Uchiha are much more likely to become criminals.

Discriminating means wrongfully doing something to other groups without any actual evidence. But there was evidence, of Uchiha being a threat. Therefore, they were dealt with like a threat.

 

[WalksInShadows]

No, he did not. He only said: "He is an Uchiha, no wonder he is with criminals."

Which was both true and nothing new, considering it was established that Uchiha are much more likely to become criminals.

Discriminating means wrongfully doing something to other groups without any actual evidence. But there was evidence, of Uchiha being a threat. Therefore, they were dealt with like a threat.

you pretty much soloed yourself, because that's exactly what Tobirama did. Not 1 single Uchiha stood with Madara when he proposed to them that they should all leave Konoha with him to avoid the trouble that was coming down the road, and Tobirama still took it upon himself to physically and politically ostracize them. There was no threat in the village until Tobirama himself created that threat.

 

[SatanicGod]

That is not his problem. He offered them, if they figured it would not be a good move for them, they should have rejected. And if they weren't capable of understanding that, it is not Tobirama's fault. His actions were a sign of trust.

The whole situation was bad for Uchiha's, and since when did police officers have to segregated from the rest of the population? If they accepted, they would be getting spied on by the higher ups (Senju clan).
If they denied, they wouldn't have any kind of power within the village even though they helped to found the village (which you cannot deny is a **** move)

 

[SatanicGod]

No, he did not. He only said: "He is an Uchiha, no wonder he is with criminals."

Which was both true and nothing new, considering it was established that Uchiha are much more likely to become criminals.

Discriminating means wrongfully doing something to other groups without any actual evidence. But there was evidence, of Uchiha being a threat. Therefore, they were dealt with like a threat.

So that is not negative?

 

[SatanicGod]

This only proves my point. People blame him for doing it even though Uchiha accepted. If they did not like it, they could've decided not to control police force.

You don't even understand the meaning of that conversation... He was basically saying that at first, nobody was following Madara, nobody believed in Madara, until Tobirama made them the heads of the police force (even though most people didnt like the Uchiha clan as it was, thus making them gain even more unwarranted hate) and pushing them into a remote corner of the village

 

[KesOnFire]

OP is funny lol either way they would of rebelled becuz they cannot control their emotions well.

 

[Dingz]

The Uchiha were in a lose lose position, complain and look like rebels, accept and be ostracized, Tobirama took advantantage and yes he was biased against Uchiha labelled them unstable. Call it racist, tribalist, clanist whatever...

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Tobirama is bliss.

You can't get much more authority than controlling the police force, ffs.

 

[Rohan]

I think the Uchihas were manipulated in such a position by the Senju that they either become the police force or become nobodies and eventually even be expelled from Konoha.