Killer B VS Oro

[blazekev90]

Care to argue how he would win without edo?


Manda.... beats the 8 tails? Surely you must be trolling

Argue? No. How long have we been here? "Arguing" proves nothing on here, it's completely pointless and the very same discussion will be created the following day. Thought people would've understood that by now.

But yes, to clarify, I do believe Orochimaru could win. As others have mentioned, Manda would be an important factor, as would other tactics. However, Orochimaru lacks a lethal strike to put Hachibi down indefinitely. Therefore, Orochimaru's victory boils down to Hachibi's inability to combat (fully restraint/defenseless) or killing Bee himself, which is more than possible either way.

That's my belief and that's all that needs to be said.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Rotation outright shits on fodder manda.

 

[Apêx1]

Tanking was a poor choice of words on my part as he sustained damage, but he reverted back on account of running out of chakra.

The way you word your arguments makes it apparent that you don't know sustaining damage diminishes your stamina, which is interchangeable with the term 'chakra'. Sure, he could've fought a little more, but he wouldn't have done anything on the level that he could've at full power. And no, he won't be stopping Oro's Kusanagi sword, which is the main reason he loses this match.

 

[Unorthodox]

Apex is a fool same with mercer

Killerbee stomps if edos are restricted

 

[Apêx1]

Apex is a fool same with mercer

Killerbee stomps if edos are restricted

Wow you truly live up to your name. Changed my mind because of your argument Bee negs

 

[Curse Mark]

The way you word your arguments makes it apparent that you don't know sustaining damage diminishes your stamina, which is interchangeable with the term 'chakra'. Sure, he could've fought a little more, but he wouldn't have done anything on the level that he could've at full power. And no, he won't be stopping Oro's Kusanagi sword, which is the main reason he loses this match.

Show me any scan that ever has said stamina = chakra.

 

[Apêx1]

Show me any scan that ever has said stamina = chakra.

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[Haizaki]

So sustaining damage reduces your chakra..............

 

[Curse Mark]

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So they work hand-in-hand but it never says theyre the same thing.

 

[Apêx1]

So they work hand-in-hand but it never says theyre the same thing.

It clearly says "stamina" flows within a ninja's body when he uses ninjutsu, taijutsu, etc. It's the same as chakra, deal with it.

Susano's constant damage infliction has made people tire almost instantly. Even IRL, get your ass beat and come tell me you aren't panting. Same applies to Hachibi getting his ass handed to him by his own Biju Dama.

 

[solorflare99]

Wow so getting hit by TBB = Bee reverts from BM?
So are we just going to ignore all the damage he took prior to the Bijuu dama, or the fact that BM does have a limit as evident by Naruto's first few time in bijuu mode.

 

[Curse Mark]

Wow so getting hit by TBB = Bee reverts from BM?
So are we just going to ignore all the damage he took prior to the Bijuu dama, or the fact that BM does have a limit as evident by Naruto's first few time in bijuu mode.

Yeah that kind of seems like the plan, huh?

It clearly says "stamina" flows within a ninja's body when he uses ninjutsu, taijutsu, etc. It's the same as chakra, deal with it.

Susano's constant damage infliction has made people tire almost instantly. Even IRL, get your ass beat and come tell me you aren't panting. Same applies to Hachibi getting his ass handed to him by his own Biju Dama.

It shows that stamina is directly used for taijutsu or combined with chakra for ninjutsu etc.
Susano is tiring in and of itself, regardless of damage taken from other opponents.

 

[Apêx1]

Wow so getting hit by TBB = Bee reverts from BM?
So are we just going to ignore all the damage he took prior to the Bijuu dama, or the fact that BM does have a limit as evident by Naruto's first few time in bijuu mode.

1. He took no apparent damage before that.
2. Bee and Hachibi no longer have a limit, evident by him entering BM 1000's of times, him being able to partially manifest the Hachibi and him being pretty much best friends with it. Don't compare his transformation to Naruto's, because Bee's ability to go BM is far superior to Naruto's.

Yeah that kind of seems like the plan, huh?



It shows that stamina is directly used for taijutsu or combined with chakra for ninjutsu etc.
Susano is tiring in and of itself, regardless of damage taken from other opponents.

Stop being a dumbass. It says stamina flows within the body. Meaning stamina IS chakra. Jesus. Stop interpreting it in the most twisted ways to fit your own interpretation.
It's tiring because of the damage inflicted upon his cells. It's not like it randomly makes your body crave more oxygen.

 

[solorflare99]

1. He took no apparent damage before that.
2. Bee and Hachibi no longer have a limit, evident by him entering BM 1000's of times, him being able to partially manifest the Hachibi and him being pretty much best friends with it. Don't compare his transformation to Naruto's, because Bee's ability to go BM is far superior to Naruto's.

1. Yes he did, did you forget the fact that he fought 6 jinchuriki path Obito, Gedo Mazo, Madara and the Juubi? All that damage but you are only going to concentrate on the that one attack taking him out of BM. Come on be logical. It obviously all adds up.

2. So because he has a high limit that Naruto due to years of experience that means he has infinite stamina? He simply has a vastly higher limit, not no limit at all.

 

[Curse Mark]

1. He took no apparent damage before that.
2. Bee and Hachibi no longer have a limit, evident by him entering BM 1000's of times, him being able to partially manifest the Hachibi and him being pretty much best friends with it. Don't compare his transformation to Naruto's, because Bee's ability to go BM is far superior to Naruto's.



Stop being a dumbass. It says stamina flows within the body. Meaning stamina IS chakra. Jesus. Stop interpreting it in the most twisted ways to fit your own interpretation.
It's tiring because of the damage inflicted upon his cells. It's not like it randomly makes your body crave more oxygen.

Lmao the only people who make personal attacks are the ones who can't illustrate their points correctly and/or accept being wrong. The picture's not really up for interpretation.
"Stamina flows within the body meaning stamina is chakra"
there's no connection between that sentence and what you assume from it.
You say I interpret it in the most twisted ways, yet you're not proving my interpretation wrong... you just get more hype.

 

[Apêx1]

1. Yes he did, did you forget the fact that he fought 6 jinchuriki path Obito, Gedo Mazo, Madara and the Juubi? All that damage but you are only going to concentrate on the that one attack taking him out of BM. Come on be logical. It obviously all adds up.

2. So because he has a high limit that Naruto due to years of experience that means he has infinite stamina? He simply has a vastly higher limit, not no limit at all.

1. But he reverted since then...

2. Why would there be a limit on them when they have a perfect connection and understanding of one another [

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]. The only thing that makes the limit is a lacking link between Jinchuriki and Biju. But there's a perfect link between Bee and Hachibi, so it shouldn't apply, and if it did, it'd be many days or weeks long.

Lmao the only people who make personal attacks are the ones who can't illustrate their points correctly and/or accept being wrong. The picture's not really up for interpretation.
"Stamina flows within the body meaning stamina is chakra"
there's no connection between that sentence and what you assume from it.
You say I interpret it in the most twisted ways, yet you're not proving my interpretation wrong... you just get more hype.

No, I just don't like to argue with someone who's denying a fact after he asks me to bring him a scan of something being said. After I brought it to you I should've seen no further argument in that particular topic, but you remained in denial. It says stamina flows within the body to use ninjutsu. But stamina can't "flow" if it wasn't chakra, since only 'chakra' flows through the chakra network.
"Stamina flows within a ninja's body when using ninjutsu, taijutsu or genjutsu." Why would stamina be flowing for the interchangeable utilisation of Genjutsu? That literally makes no sense. They are directly interchangeable as shown by the arrows on the diagram - they are the same. Losing stamina=losing chakra, and losing chakra=losing stamina. Otherwise they wouldn't be interchangeable.

 

[solorflare99]

1. But he reverted since then...

2. Why would there be a limit on them when they have a perfect connection and understanding of one another [

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]. The only thing that makes the limit is a lacking link between Jinchuriki and Biju. But there's a perfect link between Bee and Hachibi, so it shouldn't apply, and if it did, it'd be many days or weeks long.

1. Ok but it is as you said. It depleted his stamina, but it wouldn't just ignore all the other damage. That'd be like saying 1 rasenshuriken depletes sage mode Naruto's stamina just because he used a final one and he was done. But we know it takes 2. 1 rasenshuriken takes about half amother RS takes the other half. Killer bee did so much damage and received a lot of damage that entire battle, but you are only going to concentrate on the attack. You don't realize how bias that is?

2. That isn't proof that it grants an infinite limit, only that imperect is inferior, which is obvious. Regardless whether the time limit is infinite or not it still doesn't take from the fact that Took an incredible amount of damage without reverting until the that bijuu dama finally made him have to revert.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Manda.... beats the 8 tails? Surely you must be trolling

No im serious as a heart attack.​

Enlighten me lol. You should know the 8 tails absolutely destroyed a forest in one move, tanked a TBB from the Kyuubi and Juubi.

Care to argue how he would win without edo?


Manda.... beats the 8 tails? Surely you must be trolling

He tanked his own tbb yet his body was pierced by over sized Kunai. Manda evades TBB via going underground. Once he goes underground he comes right under Hachibi and raps him up restricting his movements.
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[solorflare99]

No im serious as a heart attack.​

He tanked his own tbb yet his body was pierced by over sized Kunai. Manda evades TBB via going underground. Once he goes underground he comes right under Hachibi and raps him up restricting his movements.
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An injured Madara took a Lava RS, Naruto took a chidori no problem yet they both got stabbed by Sasuke's sword. Their have been times that stuff has happened.

 

[Apêx1]

1. Ok but it is as you said. It depleted his stamina, but it wouldn't just ignore all the other damage. That'd be like saying 1 rasenshuriken depletes sage mode Naruto's stamina just because he used a final one and he was done. But we know it takes 2. 1 rasenshuriken takes about half amother RS takes the other half. Killer bee did so much damage and received a lot of damage that entire battle, but you are only going to concentrate on the attack. You don't realize how bias that is?

2. That isn't proof that it grants an infinite limit, only that imperect is inferior, which is obvious. Regardless whether the time limit is infinite or not it still doesn't take from the fact that Took an incredible amount of damage without reverting until the that bijuu dama finally made him have to revert.

1. What damage are you referring to in specific?

2. It is, because Bee and Hachibi have been portrayed to have a perfect link, or a nigh-perfect one. If going into BM once increases the limit by 3 minutes then being the best friend of your Bijuu and vice-versa, along entering BM over 1000 times should definitely imply he can maintain his BM for weeks, months or years. Regardless, the damage the Bijuu Dama inflicted was apparent by his condition, so people need to stop acting like he can fight no problem after such an attack. Nothing is stopping Orochimaru's clone from literally popping beneath the Hachibi with his Kusanagi Sword extended and poking a hole from bottom to top.