Kisame vs Alive Tobirama

[Chaosmark101]

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Kisame w/ Samehada vs Alive Tobirama
Location: Killer Bee vs Kisame
Distance: 40 meters
Mindset: IC

Stipulations: Tobirama gets all his edo feats & assume he's Stronger due to being alive.

Restrictions: Edo Tensei.

 

[The Necromancer]

Kisame by feats. Easily.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Btw if any mod sees this, could this be moved to the VS section? Sorry for the mistake

 

[Ridoku X]

I believe Tobirama's wit can win him this battle extreme diff though v_v

 

[YellowFang]

I'll go with Tobirama... he had, other than all those variety of justu, FTG the biggest game-changer in a battle b/w normal shinobi...

 

[BlacLord™]

Tobirama blitzes.

Hiraishin behind him and smack him with Tenkyū; now that can't be healed with chakra nor would he have time, since it'd happen so quickly he wouldn't know what's hit him.

Even Gojō Kibaku Fuda would be fine, since paper tags aren't made out of chakra so Samehada can't absorb them. Bad matchup for Kisame, since he's a progressive fighter, where Tobirama is aggressive.

 

[Pyro NB]

I'll go with Tobirama... he had, other than all those variety of justu, FTG the biggest game-changer in a battle b/w normal shinobi...

I'm going to agree with yellowfamg on this one

 

[The Necromancer]

Tobirama blitzes.

Hiraishin behind him and smack him with Tenkyū; now that can't be healed with chakra nor would he have time, since it'd happen so quickly he wouldn't know what's hit him.

Even Gojō Kibaku Fuda would be fine, since paper tags aren't made out of chakra so Samehada can't absorb them. Bad matchup for Kisame, since he's a progressive fighter, where Tobirama is aggressive.

Edo Tensei is restricted.

I'm not even going to tell you why the first half of your post is stupid.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Edo Tensei is restricted.

DB4 said Gojo could be done with Kage Bunshin.
I'm under the impression here that by portrayal & feats Tobirama is above Kisame. But I'm interested what some may come up with here

 

[The Necromancer]

DB4 said Gojo could be done with Kage Bunshin.
I'm under the impression here that by portrayal & feats Tobirama is above Kisame. But I'm interested what some may come up with here

I assume you can bring a scan of that claim?

Seeing as how it's done with the body of an edo tensei, I doubt it. And even so, it's highly illogical and an easily debatable feat, or so all the databook haters would tell me.

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

If tobimara is smart enough to avoid any water terrains or getting stuck in that large water bubble that kisame made against bee then he'll be fine. It would still be a close match tho considering kisame has 1000 feeding sharks

 

[Chaosmark101]

I assume you can bring a scan of that claim?

Seeing as how it's done with the body of an edo tensei, I doubt it. And even so, it's highly illogical and an easily debatable feat, or so all the databook haters would tell me.

Spoiler

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"Mutually Multiplying Explosive Tags
Ninjutsu
A-rank; Offensive; Close-range
User: Senju Tobirama

"Relentlessly violent detonations of explosion tags
Reducing even tough armours to dust."

Tags that summon more tags that then explode - a special explosion tag. The Second Hokage developed this for the purpose of combining it with “Edo Tensei”. Upon ACTIVATION, due to the devastating (terribly violent) explosions, it is highly probable that the jutsu-caster will be caught in it. If a live PERSON performs the technique, death is inevitable, for it is a blast technique that sacrifices one’s life (body).

(Tobirama vs SAGE Obito)
The timing for the invocation (activation) of the jutsu is crucial.
A surprise attack will demonstrate absolute (certain, guranteed) results.

(Gamakichi avoiding the blast radius)
At the end of hitting the target (enemy), even if reduced to pieces of flesh (meat confetti), the explosions CONTINUE….
The thunderous roar of the explosions speaks for that attack’s brutality (severity).

Translated by viatoretvenus"

I don't take everything DB says as fact. Some isn't, but since this one isn't obviously hyperbole I believe it can be done.

 

[The Necromancer]

Spoiler

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"Mutually Multiplying Explosive Tags
Ninjutsu
A-rank; Offensive; Close-range
User: Senju Tobirama

"Relentlessly violent detonations of explosion tags
Reducing even tough armours to dust."

Tags that summon more tags that then explode - a special explosion tag. The Second Hokage developed this for the purpose of combining it with “Edo Tensei”. Upon ACTIVATION, due to the devastating (terribly violent) explosions, it is highly probable that the jutsu-caster will be caught in it. If a live PERSON performs the technique, death is inevitable, for it is a blast technique that sacrifices one’s life (body).

(Tobirama vs SAGE Obito)
The timing for the invocation (activation) of the jutsu is crucial.
A surprise attack will demonstrate absolute (certain, guranteed) results.

(Gamakichi avoiding the blast radius)
At the end of hitting the target (enemy), even if reduced to pieces of flesh (meat confetti), the explosions CONTINUE….
The thunderous roar of the explosions speaks for that attack’s brutality (severity).

Translated by viatoretvenus"

I don't take everything DB says as fact. Some isn't, but since this one isn't obviously hyperbole I believe it can be done.

Regardless, to believe Kisame couldn't tank that or simply heal from the effects is foolish.

Sakura was nearly unharmed by a point-blank paper bomb (yes, I understand that is not nearly as powerful or numerous), and her durability feats are far less impressive than Kisame's, and Samehada allows him to regenerate his entire organ system in seconds.

Paper bombs aren't taking out Kisame, and he arguably has the reaction time to counter Tobirama's shunshin as demonstrated against Bee.

Kisame's intelligence is high enough to understand how FTG works, especially after the first use, the damage of which is easily healed off.

After his Water Shark Dance Prison is activated, Tobirama's only option is to run, which doesn't count as a victory to most.

 

[KesOnFire]

Tobirama wins

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tobirama blitzes. He was the fastest ninja of his time.

Killer Bee has been blitzed by 6 Gates Gai, V1 Killer Bee, V1 Ay and KCM Naruto. The guy is a slave to blitzing. Tobirama decimates him, gets behind him before kisame can even perform a hand sign and then Flying Thunder God Slash to the throat. While simultaneously marking him.

Once he's marked he gets blitzed again, and cut in half with Severing Wave.

 

[GT Is Not Canon]

Tobirama And I'll tell you why, kisame's biggest selling point is he absorbs chakra and he can fuse with samehada and use, water dome tech. That being said tobirama is recognized as one of the best water users in the verse and his best move isn't even chakra based, I think flying thunder slash lets tobirama win just cause its sooooo op. Its how he beat izuna who was almost as good as maddy

 

[The Necromancer]

Tobirama And I'll tell you why, kisame's biggest selling point is he absorbs chakra and he can fuse with samehada and use, water dome tech. That being said tobirama is recognized as one of the best water users in the verse and his best move isn't even chakra based, I think flying thunder slash lets tobirama win just cause its sooooo op. Its how he beat izuna who was almost as good as maddy

I don't know where the "FTG doesn't use chakra" BS came from, but it's not true. U_U

 

[ShiroT]

Btw if any mod sees this, could this be moved to the VS section? Sorry for the mistake

shhh go away

 

[GT Is Not Canon]

I don't know where the "FTG doesn't use chakra" BS came from, but it's not true. U_U

I'm not saying it is, but its not like a chakra based blast that samehada could absorb upon impact, cause the tech just is used to get in position for a sword slash. Sorry for the weird wording.

 

[Gein]

Shark boy wins this