Itachi Would Have Been A Better Hokage

[KesOnFire]

He didn't stop the 4th Ninja War.

Yea he didn't Naruto did but Itachi helped lol

 

[Char Aznable]

Yea he didn't Naruto did but Itachi helped lol

Everyone helped though.

Itachi cancelling the Edo Tensei got rid of the revived people like Muu, Kimimaro, Chiyo etc, who were still giving the SA problems.

Obito and Madara proved they were worth more than the entire SA put together several times after the Edo Tensei was cancelled.

 

[pdaworld]

nope he wouldn't. he was dying from a diease

also all his plan's failed

 

[KesOnFire]

Everyone helped though.

Itachi cancelling the Edo Tensei got rid of the revived people like Muu, Kimimaro, Chiyo etc, who were still giving the SA problems.

Obito and Madara proved they were worth more than the entire SA put together several times after the Edo Tensei was cancelled.

I didn't say Itachi was the only one that helped though......

''Obito and Madara proved they were worth more than the entire SA put together several times after the Edo Tensei was cancelled.''

^^^^Worth more????? They needed Hashi cells -.- Without that SA would of been ended this war

 

[Char Aznable]

I didn't say Itachi was the only one that helped though......

''Obito and Madara proved they were worth more than the entire SA put together several times after the Edo Tensei was cancelled.''

^^^^Worth more????? They needed Hashi cells -.- Without that SA would of been ended this war

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That's the Uchiha's for you though. They're always borrowing powers in order to feed their psychotic rages and desires for power.

lol

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Did the world fall into chaos or was their an invasion by other nations after the Kyubi attack on the Leaf?

Did the world fall into chaos or was their an invasion by other nations after Orochimaru's incursion on the Leaf?

Did the world fall into chaos or was their an invasion by other nations after Pein attacked the Leaf and left a crater where the village stood?

The answer to all these, in no.

If the Uchiha did attack they would've fought very bravely and died very quickly.

The Kyuubi incident lasted a few hours at most, The Sand and other villages did attack the Leaf together with Orochimaru, It did not turn into a world war because the forces weren't strong enough.

Nagato's attack is counter-productive. There would be no reason to invade "a crater where the village stood". There was no power left, no reason to invade and the incident was quickly over as soon as Naruto came, probably same day.

Another Issue is Akatsuki became too powerful enemy for all villages(which was not a problem/threat before the massacre). If they could evaporate Konoha like that, other villages probably took notice and decided to stop warring eachother, hence the Five Kage Summit.

Think about these problems practically, your arguments make no sense. They are attacks, invasions, not a war started from the inside where Konoha is divided.


A whole Uchiha Civil War would last more than a few hours, unlike those incidents mentioned by you.
With hundreds if not thousands of shinobis who come from the most elite clan in the Leaf, the Civil War will not be over in 1 day, other nations will have time to build up and take advantage of the chaos. You think in the night of the Kyuubi Incident any other Kage had any intel on the attack? By morning it was dealt with. They probably found out about it next morning or days later, either way, not enough time to act.

@bold

Wasn't Izanami created by the Uchiha clan to punish Uchiha who abused Izanagi? The secrets of the Uchiha sharingan jutsus are not secret to the Uchiha themselves. Sasuke didn't know much about them because he was never taught.

It wasn't created by "Uchiha Clan", it was created by a single person to punish those who abused Izanagi.
And remember Itachi wasn't taught either, he taught himself everything he knew.

 

[Char Aznable]

The Kyuubi incident lasted a few hours at most, The Sand and other villages did attack the Leaf together with Orochimaru, It did not turn into a world war because the forces weren't strong enough.

Nagato's attack is counter-productive. There would be no reason to invade "a crater where the village stood". There was no power left, no reason to invade and the incident was quickly over as soon as Naruto came, probably same day.[

Think about these problems practically, your arguments make no sense.

No, my arguements make perfect since. You are the one is with the faulty premises, which led you to faulty conclusions; as I have illustrated by naming other events which should have led the other Shinobi Nations attacking the Leaf, but didn't.

A whole Uchiha Civil War would last more than a few hours, unlike those incidents mentioned by you.
With hundreds if not thousands of shinobis who come from the most elite clan in the Leaf, the Civil War will not be over in 1 day, other nations will have time to build up and take advantage of the chaos. You think in the night of the Kyuubi Incident any other Kage had any intel on the attack? By morning it was dealt with. They probably found out about it days later, either way, not enough time to act.

There weren't thousands of Uchiha though. There probably weren't even 200. The Uchiha's coup would've been a short skirmish which left all the Uchiha dead and minor casualties on the Leaf's side. Why? Because the Uchiha did not have the element of surprise. The Leaf elders knew what the Uchiha were planning. If Hiruzen martialed the shinobi of his village, you would've had.

Hiruzen
Danzo
The ANBU
Hyuga Clan
Nara Clan
Sarutobi Clan
Akimichi Clan
Aburame Clan
Shimura Clan
Yamanaka Clan
Inazuka Clan
and other shinobi like Guy, Kakashi, Ebisu, Ibiki etc


All ready to jump down the Uchiha's throats. The Uchiha didn't have the numbers or the fire power to win. Conflate that with not every Uchiha having the sharingan and not every Uchiha being able to fight at Shisui or Itachi's level and you have the makings of a disaster.

Killing the Uchiha and blaming it all on Itachi was just a way to preserve the Uchiha clan's legacy, and not tarnish it with their failed coup.






It wasn't created by "Uchiha Clan", it was created by a single person to punish those who abused Izanagi.
And remember Itachi wasn't taught either, he taught himself everything he knew.[/QUOTE]

Nope. Itachi said Obito was his teacher.

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And Obito similarly told Sasuke and anyyone else (Kakashi, Yamato, Naruto, 5 Kage) about the Uchiha clan and how they were obstensibly the end all be all of awesomeness in the shinobi world.

 

[Angelic.]

he doesnt exactly have the best decision making skills lol

 

[WalksInShadows]

creating this thread was a waste of time, since you willfully ignored the part where he says "you're overestimating me...in fact, i failed".

 

[Mr SwizZz]

No, my arguements make perfect since. You are the one is with the faulty premises, which led you to faulty conclusions; as I have illustrated by naming other events which should have led the other Shinobi Nations attacking the Leaf, but didn't.



There weren't thousands of Uchiha though. There probably weren't even 200. The Uchiha's coup would've been a short skirmish which left all the Uchiha dead and minor casualties on the Leaf's side. Why? Because the Uchiha did not have the element of surprise. The Leaf elders knew what the Uchiha were planning. If Hiruzen martialed the shinobi of his village, you would've had.

Hiruzen
Danzo
The ANBU
Hyuga Clan
Nara Clan
Sarutobi Clan
Akimichi Clan
Aburame Clan
Shimura Clan
Yamanaka Clan
Inazuka Clan
and other shinobi like Guy, Kakashi, Ebisu, Ibiki etc


All ready to jump down the Uchiha's throats. The Uchiha didn't have the numbers or the fire power to win. Conflate that with not every Uchiha having the sharingan and not every Uchiha being able to fight at Shisui or Itachi's level and you have the makings of a disaster.

Killing the Uchiha and blaming it all on Itachi was just a way to preserve the Uchiha clan's legacy, and not tarnish it with their failed coup.






It wasn't created by "Uchiha Clan", it was created by a single person to punish those who abused Izanagi.
And remember Itachi wasn't taught either, he taught himself everything he knew.

Nope. Itachi said Obito was his teacher.

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And Obito similarly told Sasuke and anyyone else (Kakashi, Yamato, Naruto, 5 Kage) about the Uchiha clan and how they were obstensibly the end all be all of awesomeness in the shinobi world.

I was about to reply but since you are using something Itachi said in the fight against Sasuke as something literal, I won't go any further, its pointless.
I dont even know if that last argument is a troll or not.

 

[Char Aznable]

I was about to reply but since you are using something Itachi said in the fight against Sasuke as something literal, I won't go any further, its pointless.
I dont even know if that last argument is a troll or not.

When the going get's tough, the tough quit, I guess.

You could always use mangafacts and logic to refute my claims.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I was about to reply but since you are using something Itachi said in the fight against Sasuke as something literal, I won't go any further, its pointless.
I dont even know if that last argument is a troll or not.

For your other post, the Uchiha clan wouldn't survive long enough to cause more trouble than all of the other events, Sasuke said himself that not many Uchihas awakened the Sharingan

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(only appears in a selected few). Itachi and Shisui were called elites in the Uchiha clan but that doesn't mean the few Uchihas who had Sharingans would be able to handle the combine forces of Hiruzen (a 7 years younger Hiruzen; Hiruzen, when he died, was called the strongest of the 5 Kages), Danzo (has Izanagi and Hashirama cell arms. He would of had it before Orochimaru left Konoha.), Kakashi (was leader of the Anbu black opts, has a Sharingan, and is a prodigy himself), Gai (might be able to go 5-6th gate at that age), Shikaku (he made the SA's strategies to take down the foes with least fatally rate), Hyuuga clan (stated to be Konoha's strongest clan, can see if genjutsus are used, have Konoha's strongest taijutsu style, can fight against fast opponents), Shino's clan (bugs can consume chakra, use to track, enter enemy's bodies, ect...), Nara clan (shadows restrain movements and can strangle you with their shadows), Ino's clan (can control you body to make you attack your own comrades or take over your body), Choji clan (can run down or smash those in their path), Kiba's clan, Sarutobi clan, Hiruzen's Anbus, Danzo's Anbus.

It doesn't matter if Pein destroyed Konoha, other nations would want to infiltrate the land to gain control over not Konoha but the fire nation which is run by the fire nation's feudal lord. They gain access to the land and resources in that nations plus all of the other villages and towns within the nation. This will allow the nation who takes over power to grow.

 

[Great Master Minato]

The only reason one can argue that Minato wasn't the best Hokage is because he died too young, Lord 4th > Itachi.
As long as he was Hokage no village would dare to attack Konoha because other nations were afraid of him.

 

[SaskeyUchihahahaTard]

the only sane uchiha aside from shisui and the only uchiha fit to rule as a hokage.

 

[Berner]

Yea he didn't Naruto did but Itachi helped lol

itachi was the one who stopped edo tho, naruto couldn't do that

that's why I said he stopped the war even tho he really didn't

nither did naruto alone

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That's the Uchiha's for you though. They're always borrowing powers in order to feed their psychotic rages and desires for power.

lol

this makes no sense don't start with the bs man

I could use the same logic for naruto or ninja who actually are borrowing/stealing powrs

the only sane uchiha aside from shisui and the only uchiha fit to rule as a hokage.

itachi>shishu

 

[KesOnFire]

itachi was the one who stopped edo tho, naruto couldn't do that

that's why I said he stopped the war even tho he really didn't

nither did naruto alone

Just becuz Itachi stopped edo doesn"t mean he stopped the war so you can't say that. I actually mentioned a person who stopped the war you didn't. :| Also I never said Naruto stopped it alone but he is now known as the Hokage that stopped the 4th great war.

 

[salamander uchiha]

After the war they should have erected 3 world monuments.
1 to Itachi for stopping the Edo and pretty much saving the nv.
1 to Obito who declared the 4th war making kages realise they need to work together.
And the biggest to Madara for being the originator to bring peace and setting obito on his path oh and being the greatest shinobi in the nv.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Just becuz Itachi stopped edo doesn"t mean he stopped the war so you can't say that. I actually mentioned a person who stopped the war you didn't. :| Also I never said Naruto stopped it alone but he is now known as the Hokage that stopped the 4th great war.

Naruto should be greatful to arsepullitis of kishi and Itachi who sealed nagato otherwise he'd be dead. Naruto was irrelevant to the manga since Itachi would have solo'd Kabuto.