[VS] Orochimru vs MS Sasuke
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WreckRolled
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this is sasuke with healthy eyes, he will run out of chakra before his ms causes any problem, genjutsu is walked out of ??? tanks kirin with 8 branches ?? explain how
And this is 100% Hashi DNA body Orochimaru, who even without Zetsu has massive chakra reserves.
Orochimaru canonically countered Sasuke's Genjutsu in less than a second. It's useless here.
Ofc 8branches tanks Kirin. It cannot completely destroy it, so Orochimaru will simply renegerate from all the wounds inflicted. 8branches is regeneration itself and Sasuke has nothing that could inflict any significant damage.
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why would sasuke be so retarded to aim for 8branches instead of oro ?? scans of when he countered genjutsu in less than a second
Orochimaru would win based on the fact of having some knowledge on using Sage Mode along with Hashirama's DNA which can allow him to use Doton and Mokuton, both of which can pressure Sasuke from underground which is important for countering his Susano'o which is most viable offense and defense.
Katons are easily countered by Suiton and Amaterasu is simply negated by Orochimaru's Oral Rebirth which shouldn't be taxing based on being able to use Natural Energy to enhance his reserves and having Hashi's DNA.
And if Sasuke does resort to Susano'o Arrow, then it'd be rather difficult to evade, but he could manage to use Doton/ Mokuton to shift the arrow's trajectory, manifest Mokuton in the way Danzo did to evade it, or use Sage Sensing if he's capable of using Sage Mode.
This all doesn't even include Orochimaru having the advantage of having complete knowledge on Sasuke's techniques whereas Sasuke has very little knowledge on Orochimaru's new abilities thanks to having Hashi's DNA.
Katons are easily countered by Suiton and Amaterasu is simply negated by Orochimaru's Oral Rebirth which shouldn't be taxing based on being able to use Natural Energy to enhance his reserves and having Hashi's DNA.
And if Sasuke does resort to Susano'o Arrow, then it'd be rather difficult to evade, but he could manage to use Doton/ Mokuton to shift the arrow's trajectory, manifest Mokuton in the way Danzo did to evade it, or use Sage Sensing if he's capable of using Sage Mode.
This all doesn't even include Orochimaru having the advantage of having complete knowledge on Sasuke's techniques whereas Sasuke has very little knowledge on Orochimaru's new abilities thanks to having Hashi's DNA.
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No they will not Sasuke still has the speed advantage over oro and with his pre-cog he dodges a extended kusanagi blade with ease or chops it and half with his sword with ration streaming through it and all that is irrelevant because none of the following you gave could even put a scratch on a ribcage susanoo which drains the least amount of chakra.
Nope Susanoo arrows to the dome rips Orochimaru in half or 1 to take out his face and the other 2 put a clean hole through his body kills him because you cannot oral rebirth out of your feet so its a solid gg.
Amaterasu can be used in different ways for sasuke instead of just offense (Kirin prep)
Genjutsu is walked out of stop it Genjutsu freezes orochimaru for a second while amaterasu lights him up like a christmas tree while his body is paralyzed meaning no oral rebirth or sasuke could shunshin next to him then smash his whole body at once with a susanoo punch.
8 BRANCHES gets annihilated furthermore kirin goes on Sasuke's command he would shunshin all around that snake chopping its head off before he uses Kirin which would still destroy Oro with hydra there or not.
Orochimaru catches no one off guard here nor its this a battle of who has the more chakra try again
Sasuke won't have any advantage over something he can't even see or sense. Sharingan doesn't give one 360deg vision, so precog becomes useless when fighting opponents that can blidnside you or simply overwhelm.
The only way Sasuke can cut through Kusanagi replicas is with sharp Chidori Stream (and even then we don't know if it would work). And Chidori Stream is not an AoE jutsu, so if you really want Sasuke to expose himself to Oro's attacks, by focusing his attacks on destroying some fake Kusanagi, then gl.
Sasuke still doesn't have Legged Susano'o, which means he's vulnerable from below. I don't want to get into discussion about whether Kusanagi could get past Susano'o or not because I never really did comparison of its durability with other things, but Orochimaru's weapon of choosing against Itachi's Susano'o was Kusanagi itself, so there's at least some sort of implication that it should be able to pose a threat.
Bullshit. 'Oral' Rebirth can be used from any body part (shown by Orochimaru, Sasuke and Kabuto). It can also be used even after Oro's human form dies (re-read Orochimaru vs Kabuto).
Ok?
Orochimaru got caught in Sasuke's Genjutsu and immediately walked out of it. It had no effect whatsoever, because Orochimaru wasn't even forced to dispel it. He didn't even have to bite his lip or do the Kai sign. Genjutsu here is pointless, unless you want Sasuke to waste even more chakra.
Wow, annihilated by what? Kirin? As we've seen in manga, Kirin is a one big technique. You use it, then there's boom and that's it. And it's not enough to seriously damage 8branches which is regeneration itself.
Not to mention that if things get serious, Oro can simply create another 8branches with a Shadow/Parasite Clone. Not like it's a problem for someone who got himself a 100% Hashi DNA body.
Also, all of Oro's techniques are stronger than they were before. Seconds after possessing Zetsu he showed his proficiency with using Hashi cells to the fullest. Stronger Edo Tensei, stronger Shadow Snake Hands.
Kaguya was caught off-guard (despite having Byakugan, Sharingan and Rinnegan) by Sakura, Kyuubi was caught off-guard. Tons of characters ever caught off-guard and people severely underrate the surprise factor. Hell, even Sasuke was caught off-guard by Danzo's Futton and if it wasn't for Karin, Sasuke would've been long dead.
And about outlasting, Orochimaru even in his base has greater chakra reserves than Sasuke. His chakra was praised by Kisame, Pain, Kabuto and was stated to be massive in Databook. Now add 100% Hashi DNA body and this battle turns into a race, where Sasuke has to deal with Orochimaru asap, because with every second his chances are getting smaller. And we both know Sasuke can't do that because eveything in his arsenal is countered.
Not to mention that Zetsu Spores are something that screws Sasuke really hard. Draining his chakra, stopping his movements and forcing him to spend even more chakra to get rid of them.
Sasuke is heavily outclassed here. Orochimaru is simply a bad match-up for him and that's because MS Sasuke is all about his big-ass moves like Susano'o, Amaterasu, Kirin etc. which are supposed pressure his opponent. Sadly, he can't do that here because Oro, unlike 99% other characters, can allow himself to get hit.
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Which isn't an issue.
He has to use Oral Rebirth to survive one arrow. Not like it matters anyway.
Bold is a load of nonsense. When Orochimaru gets feats that make him as durable as Complete Susanoo, we can talk about him tanking Eight Branches.
Considering that Kirin is a one shot, this doesn't even matter as it will never come to attrition.
Which is an issue, since maintaining Susano'o drains a lot of chakra and inflicts a lot of pain to the user.
Oral Rebirth or Body-Clone Swap should do the job. Also, it's not like Sasuke will be spamming Arrows with clones on the battlefield he cannot distinguish.
And why would it need to be as durable as Complete Susano'o? As far as I remember Itachi tanked Kirin with 0 damage. There's no way it could desintegrate 8branches. In Hydra Mode, Orochimaru (who is the Hydra in fact) can take any damage and still survive it without any problems (7 heads cut off, Totsuka straight into Oro's torso).
Kirin can't one-shot 8branches. Not when we've seen that damage done by Itachi - which would be considered lethal to like any other character - was simply laughed at by Oro. Kirin soloing Oro is nothing than a bad joke.
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Not when Orochimaru will be dead long before Sasuke falls.
What in the world is clone body swap? Meh, like I said. Doesn't matter cause Kirin is the finisher.
Itachi used his Complete Susanoo yet Kirin obliterated it and the Mountain they were on. The rest is irrelevant because Totsuka cutting off 7 heads is nowhere near as powerful and lethal as a Mountain Sized lightning bolt slamming into Orochimaru and his Hydra.
Not sure if I should be taking this BS seriously tbh. Are you suggesting that Kirin hit Itachi directly? Cause if you are...
Oh lord. :lol
Except he won't be.
Orochimaru can swap himself with any of his clones as shown during his 'fight' with Anko in Forest of Death.
Proof of him using Complete Susano'o? All manga showed was Itachi standing up, activating his Skeletal Susano'o and saying that if it wasn't for it he would've been dead. Complete Susano'o was something he used only later on.
Ofc not lol. He tanked it with Susano'o. But it doesn't matter. Manda tanked C0 which was tens of times more powerful than Kirin. I know it died in the end, but there were no external wounds at all. There's no way Kirin could completely destroy 8branches and all the internal wounds inflicted would be laughed at and regenerated, since we know that it can survive fatal wounds even Manda couldn't.
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not restricted?As far as I know, nothing in the manga suggests Oro's gotten over that hurdle.
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Except it is cannon that he has indeed gotten over that hurdle. Sasuke attempted The same exact Genjutsu that Itachi used and Oru no diff broke free. Not only that with Zetsu clones lying dorment waiting to easily break him free or use Remote chakra transfer to break the genjutsu via chakra method Genjutsu of all forms are laughed at! This is simply in Oru's favor it isn't even funny. He literally counters every Sauske jutsu easily and has the knowledge to back it up.
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.That wasn't Genjutsu in any shape or form. That was sauke using the sharingan to reverse/copy the Jutsu Oru was going to use on him. And it was only because Oru was on his death bed fact from sasuke. Anything else?
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Not really. I was under the impression Oro wins as seen on the first page
But can't forget to mention MS genjutsu > 3T genjutsu