About Naruto's RSM

[TimothyTheTomato]

I simply didn't reply because I already stated how everything yall keep repeating is wrong, and you didn't prove me wrong so, yeahhh

You're not proving anybody wrong though

 

[00Rinne]

Anything with a glow is basically KCM or 9tails sage mode. His appearance changed because of the cloths he wears. As for RSM he hasn't called a meeting for the bijuu to go into RSM. He has the ultimate bijuu at his disposal and still has some of all the others chakra to...not because he can call for the meeting place but because the bijuu gave him the direct link to them at anytime. (That was before SO6P even showed up)

Remember that deeper lvl of consciousness that only Naruto can enter, that was basically his permanent link to chakra. So all Naruto/Kurama has to do is call the meeting and then he has to ask not just take their chakra to enter RSM. An even when he does go RSM he will still put his KCM on top of it to give it that extra boost. Then you will see all the attributes that only Rikudou has.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

i personally disagree with this assessment and believe that RSM is juubi chakra(9 bijuus) mixed with sage mode

after all madara also had rikudo senjutsu and he had juubi chakra and hashirama`s senjutsu.....

but on the other hand madara also had rikudo chakra so ...

this debate just cant be proven either way so it`s pointless to discuss it,everyone has a different opinion

so i`ll just leave it at: you know nothing jon snow

The Juubi itself can give Rikudou Senjutsu but the Nine Bijuu's can't because they're not fused with the body of the Ten Tails. Only through the fusion of Kaguya + Shinju can Rikudou Senjutsu and Rikudou Chakra be gained.

Madara had normal Rikudou Chakra, that's not what gave him Rikudou Senjutsu, it was indeed the Juubi.

Naruto however got his Rikudou Senjutsu (and Chakra) directly from Hagoromo, it was directly stated in the manga that Hagoromo gave him HIS CHAKRA. The Databook mentions that Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode (because its only speaking about Naruto's RSM because its in his Databook section and directly shows Naruto and no one else, it has another section for different Rikudou Senjutsu) is a direct gift from Hagoromo.

It also notes that its Hagoromo's chakra in the first place that links all Nine Bijuu's together and allows him to use their power. And it directly shows Naruto having a base RSM. Which means its not the Nine Bijuu's that gives him RSM, but rather that their chakra amplifies it and gives him the TSB among other powers.

I simply didn't reply because I already stated how everything yall keep repeating is wrong, and you didn't prove me wrong so, yeahhh

LMAO, what a illiterate idiot. You didn't win anything nor did you prove a thing, next time bring Manga scans that directly help your argument along with some Databook scans if it helps. Maybe get a bit more erudite too.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

The Juubi itself can give Rikudou Senjutsu but the Nine Bijuu's can't because they're not fused with the body of the Ten Tails. Only through the fusion of Kaguya + Shinju can Rikudou Senjutsu and Rikudou Chakra be gained.

Madara had normal Rikudou Chakra, that's not what gave him Rikudou Senjutsu, it was indeed the Juubi.

Naruto however got his Rikudou Senjutsu (and Chakra) directly from Hagoromo, it was directly stated in the manga that Hagoromo gave him HIS CHAKRA. The Databook mentions that Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode (because its only speaking about Naruto's RSM because its in his Databook section and directly shows Naruto and no one else, it has another section for different Rikudou Senjutsu) is a direct gift from Hagoromo.

It also notes that its Hagoromo's chakra in the first place that links all Nine Bijuu's together and allows him to use their power. And it directly shows Naruto having a base RSM. Which means its not the Nine Bijuu's that gives him RSM, but rather that their chakra amplifies it and gives him the TSB among other powers.




LMAO, what a illiterate idiot. You didn't win anything nor did you prove a thing, next time bring Manga scans that directly help your argument along with some Databook scans if it helps. Maybe get a bit more erudite too.

You can't prove me wrong though *****. So gtfo thinking you hard, you a soft sissified sob.

Rsm = jubi or all nine biju + SM

Kaguya isn't needed, she got chakra from the Shinju. Shinju + kaguya with Shinju chakra = Shinju plus more Shinju chakra. So no kaguya isn't needed **** boy

 

[Utakata and Saiken]

You can't prove me wrong though *****. So gtfo thinking you hard, you a soft sissified sob.

Rsm = jubi or all nine biju + SM

Kaguya isn't needed, she got chakra from the Shinju. Shinju + kaguya with Shinju chakra = Shinju plus more Shinju chakra. So no kaguya isn't needed **** boy

They're wrong, you're right, simple as that bro, don't sweat it.

They're the only ones who don't know rsm come from biju + natural energy.

The jubi itself is natural energy that's why sage mode isn't requires for him.

Let them be idiots man, they act as if obito absorbed kaguya out of madara and got rsm back. Haha. They're dumb and look it man.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

You can't prove me wrong though *****. So gtfo thinking you hard, you a soft sissified sob.

Rsm = jubi or all nine biju + SM

Kaguya isn't needed, she got chakra from the Shinju. Shinju + kaguya with Shinju chakra = Shinju plus more Shinju chakra. So no kaguya isn't needed **** boy

I don't need to prove you wrong at all though, since you haven't proven yourself right in any shape or form.

If you wish to throw around insults, than please, at least use better grammar or you'll just make a fool of yourself.

RSM = Juubi which = Kaguya + Shinju.

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No, Kaguya didn't get her chakra from the Shinju itself, she got it from the Chakra fruit, part of the Shinju yes but still a difference.

The Juubi was Kaguya fused with the Shinju tree, that is it. The Juubi is not the Shinju, but rather is Kaguya and the Shinju, without Kaguya there is no Juubi, thus no Tailed Beasts, which means they come from her.

There's a reason why she's the progenitor of chakra lmao.

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From the Databook on Kaguya.
Ever since "humans" were given form, they have fought each other and walked in a world of war. The earth was stained with blood, and as if it were absorbing that blood for nourishment, the Shinju took root in the earth. Eventually the Shinju bore a single fruit, and a certain clan came from another world seeking that fruit: the Otsutsuki clan. Kaguya, leader of the Otsutsuki, ate the fruit and became the progenitor of all chakra, and with her absolute power brought peace to the world in an instant.

After ending the turbulent era, she became known as the Rabbit Goddess and received the blessing of the people, giving birth to twins. But after that, Kaguya would occasionally use harsh means to rule the people as a dictator. The Byakugan, Sharingan, and Infinite Tsukuyomi - the people feared and respected the jutsu Kaguya wielded. Eventually, the "Rabbit Goddess" became known as a demon instead. And then, Kaguya became ruled by her desire to make all chakra her own.

To make all chakra one - Kaguya's desire eventually turned on Hagoromo and Hamura, her own twin sons with whom she had split her chakra. Kaguya formed a plan, and in order to take in all chakra, fused with the Shinju and battled against her twin sons.


The Gedo Mazo is not just the container of the tailed beasts chakra, it is the very body of the Juubi. You must ask what chakra is made of: Nature Energy + Spiritual + Physical.

Considering the comprehension you've displayed so far, I'll explain it to you in full. What is the Shinju? What was its original chakra? It had no Mental or Physical Energies didn't it? It was just a construct of Nature Energy.

That's it, the only chakra it had. But when it fused with Kaguya, it gained two new chakra's, Physical and Spiritual (Yin and Yang) the very basis of Six Paths chakra itself. Kaguya's Physical and Spiritual chakra that formed within her thanks to the chakra fruit makes Rikudou chakra. Kaguya + Shinju Makes Rikudou Senjutsu.

Nine Tailed beasts aren't formed into one inside of the body of the Ten Tails, which means they're not the ones supplying Naruto with the power of Rikudou Senjutsu, instead, for the last ****ing time, it was given to him by Hagoromo.

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"Old Hermit I met gave me HIS POWER."
"I can feel clearly...the other half of HIS POWER."

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'Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)


Heading: A GIFT from the ANCESTOR (Hagoromo) of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.



If Naruto's RSM relied on the Tailed Beasts then he wouldn't have it in base.
Have fun on your way out.

 

[Ansatsuken]

You can't prove me wrong though *****. So gtfo thinking you hard, you a soft sissified sob.

Rsm = jubi or all nine biju + SM

Kaguya isn't needed, she got chakra from the Shinju. Shinju + kaguya with Shinju chakra = Shinju plus more Shinju chakra. So no kaguya isn't needed **** boy

Sorry, what you type above proved that you not having any idea what you think about

You said Kaguya is not needed but you forgot that Juubi is Kaguya+Shinju. No Kaguya thats mean no Juubi. No Juubi thats mean no Six Path chakra and Senjutsu.

Hagoromo and Hamura get their Six Path chakra and Senjutsu from Kaguya and not Shinju.

They inherited Kaguya's massive chakra DB said.

There is no other way around dude.

Only Juubi's chakra and Hagoromos chakra can gave you Six Path Senjutsu.

Not 9 separated Bijuus+SM. its not that easy.

Bijuus chakra still missing Six Path chakra(Spiritual+Physical energy/Yin-Yang elements) that only Kaguya have in the beginning. And GM is Kaguya's body+Shinju and Bijuus is Kaguya's chakra.

You get wreck hard enough here because you asked for it.

 

[d28592]

Agreed

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Sorry, what you type above proved that you not having any idea what you think about

You said Kaguya is not needed but you forgot that Juubi is Kaguya+Shinju. No Kaguya thats mean no Juubi. No Juubi thats mean no Six Path chakra and Senjutsu.

Hagoromo and Hamura get their Six Path chakra and Senjutsu from Kaguya and not Shinju.

They inherited Kaguya's massive chakra DB said.

There is no other way around dude.

Only Juubi's chakra and Hagoromos chakra can gave you Six Path Senjutsu.

Not 9 separated Bijuus+SM. its not that easy.

Bijuus chakra still missing Six Path chakra(Spiritual+Physical energy/Yin-Yang elements) that only Kaguya have in the beginning. And GM is Kaguya's body+Shinju and Bijuus is Kaguya's chakra.

You get wreck hard enough here because you asked for it.

Nice mate!

I bet that dude is probably going to come back and ignore like 99.9% of what you and I said however. :yeah:
He's a persistent one, I'll give him that much, even if he runs away every so often.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Nice mate!

I bet that dude is probably going to come back and ignore like 99.9% of what you and I said however. :yeah:
He's a persistent one, I'll give him that much, even if he runs away every so often.

If he come back here and reply back to your post or my post, I will ignore him as he already got schooled enough from us.:bdpf:

 

[Team7Represent]

Alright, so clearly there's a huge discussion going on about whether Naruto lost his RSM or not.

Well, to those who believe he DIDN'T, answer this:

- Where did his TSB go?

- Why did he lose the Rikudo markings on his back?

- Why did his skin re-gain the glow

- Why did the overall design change

- Why are his eyes orange now instead of yellow?


A lot of people use the "Kurama RSM" excuse. How do you even know that exists? It's never been mentioned lmao

And about the lack of pigmentation on his eyes. Maybe that just means he absolutely mastered sage mode?
It's been over a decade after all...

Interesting...

I can answer these in my sleep.

1. His TSB are only accessible to him when he uses RSM alongside all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra. Also, where did Madara's go?

2, 3, 4, 5. The Rikudou Markings on his back and the overall design of his chakra cloak was formed from using his Rikudou Senjutsu chakra with all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra. Naruto has been shown using RSM without all Nine Tailed Beasts chakra in the manga itself and it was proven by the CANON Databook.

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Databook translation.
'Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!


← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!'

His glows come back most likely because he's just using Kurama characteristics with his Six Paths Senjutsu. Same for the eyes.

It doesn't need to be mentioned, Naruto's shown the ability to use an individual beasts chakra with his RSM like when he only used the 4 tails chakra to create the LRS in his normal RSM.

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In the Gaiden he was directly shown to be talking with Kurama and ONLY Kurama, just like with that case. Which means he's using only Kurama's chakra for the transformation.

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Hopefully peoples shitty bs will end soon, I mean, Sasuke gets to have his 6T Rinnegan and Rikudou's chakra but Naruto can't? The **** is this shit?

Naruto showed that he still has the Pigmentation that a Sage always has with Toad Sage mode, yet when he activated his cloak in Gaiden, he lost the Pigmentation, which only happens when he's using Rikudou Sage Mode.
Naruto was shown flying in the last and was also shown to be capable of effecting TSBs, all of these feats can only be done with Rikudou chakra.

Sound argument LoA as always, can't fault anything here!