proof that naruto is the fastest?

[ANiMUS]

Attack position? No. he can't either. why do you think after he uses ameno he swings chidori towards the target? He did the same thing to madara but it happened fast.

This is confusing me a bit, but if u are talking about displacing his opponent he does that here against Kaguya

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He also tried to do that when he was going to save Sakura before Kakashi rescued her.

 

[Nagi]

So WTF is the point in bringing up Sasuke (foot)speed being acknowledged then as it adds zero weight to this already dumb thread :|

Reading is fundamental. Ain't my fault you lack it.

 

[Seventh Sama]

This is confusing me a bit, but if u are talking about displacing his opponent he does that here against Kaguya

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That's not what i'm arguing about.
Ameno doesn't change your stance from this

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to this attacking stance.

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Sasuke does all that not ameno.
Does this make it less confusing?

 

[ComplexCity]

Reading is fundamental. Ain't my fault you lack it.

Nice response. Expect nothing less from a fapper. Guy can't even answer a basic question :lol

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Like really. If everybody judging Naruto's speed base off the picture of the manga, then Part 1 Lee against Gaara is the fastest.

Wait oh shit. Sasuke would be the fastest because in part 2 when he appeared next to Naruto, everybody said, "When did he move?"!

This sounds so desperate. You're living in the past, son. That could not be more irrelevant to their current powers.

 

[ANiMUS]

That's not what i'm arguing about.
Ameno doesn't change your stance from this

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to this attacking stance.

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Sasuke does all that not ameno.
Does this make it less confusing?

Ok I got it. If u are talking about stances then I know Sasuke has to adjust his own stance, but didn't Sasuke change Kaguya's (not exactly stance, but the way that she was facing.)

She was flying horizontally before, but when Sasuke teleported her she was floating straight up.

He can't make your body take a different stance though

 

[Nagi]

This sounds so desperate. You're living in the past, son. That could not be more irrelevant to their current powers.

Don't seem desperate to me. But since you wanna say the past is irrelevant. Well, I guess by the new trailer, Sasuke is faster by your logic.

 

[shadowcb]

Naruto didn't blitz Kaguya at all. When will people learn to put things in context ?

1) Kaguya was out of chakra due to being forced to switch dimensions to escape Sasuke's attack and it's confirmed that her speed is proportional to how much chakra she has left.

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2) Naruto was teleported by Sasuke. The SFX used when Naruto 'blitzed' her isn't the one used for Shunshin or speed, it was the one used for Space-time teleportation

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Here are a few examples of the SFX used for Shunshin :

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And here is the SFX used for space-time teleportaion :
Hiraishin :

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Amenominaka :

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Amenotejikira :

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So either Naruto can use space-time plot no jutsu or the most logical explanation is that the guy with a space-time ninjutsu next to him just teleported him.

Nice try, but you can't go by SFX because they're not consistent.

When Sasuke used Amenotejikira against Madara we don't see those SFX -

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When Sasuke used Amenotejikira to attack Madara while he was transforming we don't see those SFX -

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We don't see those SFX when the 4th used his S/T jutsu -

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When the 4th used his S/T justu to escape Tobi chain he has the same SFX you stated are for high speed movement only -

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This proves he can't go by SFX. All those SFX are nothing by speed/movement SFX.

 

[Liquid Snake]

LMAO. That's some mighty fine ass fanfic work right there. I'll rep you for that.

Lol but it's true he can't fight with the body he's attached to so wat makes u think he can't use his powers didn't he use obitos power to get him and madara out of kamuis dimension?

 

[Nagi]

Lol but it's true he can't fight with the body he's attached to so wat makes u think he can't use his powers didn't he use obitos power to get him and madara out of kamuis dimension?

He covered half of Obito's body though. Including his face. Kaguya, he would just hanging off on the side of her like a 3rd arm or something.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Don't seem desperate to me. But since you wanna say the past is irrelevant. Well, I guess by the new trailer, Sasuke is faster by your logic.

Okay. Have it your way. Hago power ups etc don't mean anything.

Don't even know what you're getting at with the Sasuke bit. It's the most recent thing that has happened in the timeline yet you're sticking to early part 2 and part 1 feats as if people's speed haven't changed

 

[EZQ]

Minato, Tobirama and Sasuke are the fastest. Infinite speed = Infinite speed = Infinite speed

But if we talk about just sunshin and movement speed Naruto takes it easy. Look at what he did to kaguya's arms in an instant.

 

[shadowcb]

- The above has nothing to do with my statements.



- It's okay if you think his Ameno wasn't restricted.
- Naruto didn't dodge Sasuke when he used Ameno then Chidori and He didn't dodge his second Ameno attack either.



- Yes, Naruto displayed Body flicker in Base his form for the first time.
- KCM/BM/BSM/RSM Naruto was using Body Flicker long before he became an Adult.
- Sasuke already had displayed body flicker from his first time skip encounter of the new Team 7.



- Naruto natural body speed is inferior to Sasuke natural body speed.
- RSM Naruto body speed is superior to Sasuke natural body speed.
- Sasuke Ameno that's Instant is Superior to Naruto RSM speed.

Everything I posted is very important. It proves why Madara had a harder time dealing with Amenotejikira compared to Naruto/Kaguya. Since Naruto and Kaguya are faster than Madara they could handle Amenotejikira better than Madara and the manga reflected that. That's the reason Kaguya evaded Sasuke's attack -

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- and Sasuke had to used a distraction before he used Amenotejikira and attacked Naruto -

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Naruto didn't dodge it. He choose to block both attacks. There is more than one way to handle an attack. That doesn't change the fact Sasuke had to used a distraction before he used Amenotejikira and attacked Naruto -

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This is very important because it proves Sasuke knew Amenotejikira wouldn't work alone.

Naruto's natural body speed is superior to Sasuke's natural body speed. Sasuke was the faster one in the past, but that's not true anymore. When they fought at the VOTE 2 Sasuke couldn't blizt a more worn out and tired Naruto. Naruto was able to hit Sasuke before Sasuke could hit him. Naruto had less chakra than Sasuke and started his attack after Sasuke.

Naruto and Sasuke overall speed are equal. Sasuke's Amenotejikira movement is superior, but Naruto's RSM physical speed and relaxes are superior. That makes a difference in battle. Sasuke wasn't able to hit Kaguya, but Naruto was.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Can I get some proof that Naruto is the fastest shinobi in the NV?

Sasuke's speed had been acknowledged more than Naruto's speed throughout the Manga. People assumed that Naruto is the fastest because he blitzed Kaguya. So we're looking at the pictures in the manga and make a judgement call? Don't that fall under Fanfic?

MangaWords > MangaPictures
Databook once claimed Sasuke the fastest too.

Anyway....

Madara Uchiha Acknowledged the shit out of Sasuke's speed twice! Never once for Naruto. Madara's words hold more weights than any other characters in NV!

Now if you're saying character's words don't mean shit, then you're judging Naruto's speed off of one lil mangaPicture of Naruto blitzing Kaguya, who is already low on Chakra.

So where is this proof that Naruto is stated to be the fastest shinobi in NV.​

Not that hard to see that Naruto is the fastest ninja when he's not nerfed. All ninjas use Shippuden for their inhuman speed, Shunshin speed and distance depends on the amount of chakra used. Naruto in base have more chakra than Sasuke

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, Naruto just never used Shunshin much but when he did he was pretty fast such as saving Sakura from Sasuke. Yang Kurama's KM was fast enough to be compared to Minato's FTG speed, the yellow flash

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. Bee who have seen A and Minato's speed wasn't even sure if Naruto teleported or not when he first used Shunshin in KM because he referred it to a teleporting technique

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KM Naruto wasn't on Minato's level of skill in using it at first as Yamato mentioned but Naruto had some training with his speed and was able to better gain control on it as he had a speed battle against A. You could say Sasuke have more skills using Shunshin while Naruto has more raw speed during the war arc. KM Naruto speed is compared to an instant ninjutsu by Bee 2x and Tsunade 1x

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. DB says Naruto's speed is as fast or faster than Madara's.

Also no Madara's words are not the most important,those who are older than he is know more than him such as; Hagoromo, Hamura, Kaguya and Black Zetsu. Kaguya said Naruto is fast

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with BZ also crediting Naruto's speed/reflexes

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. As for Madara acknowledging Sasuke's speed, he was simply saying that Sasuke can't use his Rinnegan's S/T jutsu on him if he's not within range then said Sasuke is still really fast as well; this is Sasuke attacking while Madara is slowing down though since Madara wouldn't risk damaging the Sharingan he took from Kakashi. Full Kurama Naruto is the fastest since he has the most chakra around; Naruto's+Hashirama's cells+Hagoromo Yang Chakra+Full Kurama while Sasuke has Sasuke's+Hashirama's cells+Hagoromo's Yin chakra.

 

[Liquid Snake]

He covered half of Obito's body though. Including his face. Kaguya, he would just hanging off on the side of her like a 3rd arm or something.

Actually he was connected to her arm that's why when Naruto cut her arm off and pinned it with the tsb rods bz was pinned as well and it doesn't matter how if bz covered half of obito it was still him using obitos techs and he even stated he'll gather chakra for kaguya and could tell how much chakra she had he was connected to her like a parasite

 

[Gein]

Naruto is more or less FTG speed

 

[Alastor]

Nice try, but you can't go by SFX because they're not consistent.

When Sasuke used Amenotejikira against Madara we don't see those SFX -

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When Sasuke used Amenotejikira to attack Madara while he was transforming we don't see those SFX -

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We don't see those SFX when the 4th used his S/T jutsu -

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When the 4th used his S/T justu to escape Tobi chain he has the same SFX you stated are for high speed movement only -

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This proves he can't go by SFX. All those SFX are nothing by speed/movement SFX.

Not quite. A lack of SFX is generally either due to a more recent/louder SFX taking their places, such as getting stabbed and hitting the ground in Madara/Minato's case or the editors taking the freedom of translating them into what they deem to be the implied meaning like the first Sasuke case :

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The final Hirashin case is probably a mistake from Kishimoto's part as Minato is using the hand signs for the Shunshin justu with shunshin SFX but teleporting to a Kunai instead. So either he used Hiraishin to teleport somewhere then Shunshin to that spot or it's simply a mistake since Hiraishin was not very well established back then.

 

[Gein]

Minato, Tobirama and Sasuke are the fastest. Infinite speed = Infinite speed = Infinite speed

But if we talk about just sunshin and movement speed Naruto takes it easy. Look at what he did to kaguya's arms in an instant.

Naruto KCM can easily more or less compete with FTG

So lets just say Naruto has the fastest combat speed

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[darkstar94]

Amenotejikara bring the user from from A to B. After that it all come down to speed. Just like Madara soling Minato and the 2nd hokage.

Bottom line, they're both in the same class of speed. Can't say who is faster and shit.

Well there is gap between subsequent ameno transportation..... I would say if its a surprise attack then sasuke might outcast naruto otherwise naruto will have upper hand

 

[Styles]

How isn't he the right person to judge speed? Naruto was dodging kaguyas attacks and it's clear she is on another from madara and the madara sasuke did catch up to was one eyed madara not even full power and let's not forget sasuke hit madara but so did Naruto twice and he speed blitzed madara didn't do a cheap trick with a sword Naruto is faster dude

Sasuke blitzed a full powered JJ Madara with 1 Rinnegan and Shinju tree. Naruto blitzed JJ Madara with 1 Rinnegan that just got done fighting Gai.