Neji and Hiashi vs Mu and Gengetsu

[Brother Numpsay]

Intel: Manga

Location: Gaara vs Gengetsu

 

[Apêx1]

Team 1 shits.

 

[EZQ]

Mu and Gengetsu would destroy them

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Mu and Gengetsu would destroy them

No argument Lol

 

[EZQ]

No argument Lol

The Hyuugas have no way to take down Joki boy, while at the same time they would both be being distracted by an invisible jinton user that flies as a constant threat. CQC is the worst thing they can do since if Muu lies a hand of them he turns them too heavy to be able to move. Not to mention the clam genjutsu which would confuse them constantly, and Muu's Jinton which they lack a counter for.
Too many different abilities from the kages and too hard to counter with the hyuugas fighting style.

 

[Apêx1]

Air Palm decides this match.

-Clam needs to be summoned before its Genjutsu starts. Air Palm one shots it.

-Byaukgan perceives Mu while invisible as I have proven on a multitude of occasions. Air palm one shots him too, as he has no answer for it.

-Joki Bois explosion can be countered with Rotation. Joki boi being used after Mu is one shotted means one of the Hyuuga's attacks the weakened Trollkage (he can't hide form the Byakugan), and the Trollkage either stops his jutsu or gets spanked with Gentle Fist/long ranged Air Palms.

 

[KingHashirama]

Team 2 wreck.


As for the hyuuga fans who want an argument... Your only way of wining the debate is the fact Hyuuga have shown more feats..while the other 2 had very less time to fight.


1. None of them are as strong as 2 Kages of the second generation when it comes to mere base skills.

2. Since when can the byakugan see Muu?? You made a theory on it.. cool. Sadly, in the manga there is no mention on the byakugan being able to see Muu.

3. Hiashi is overrated, considering the Kages didn't even acknowledge his power over Kakashi.

4. Neji is pretty inferior to Hiashi <<< Any kage will wreck his ass

5. the scenarios Hyuuga supporters are coming up with are based on the Kages having zero strategy what so ever.. and the hyuuga simply being able to foil their invisibility and all their special techniques.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

The Hyuugas have no way to take down Joki boy, while at the same time they would both be being distracted by an invisible jinton user that flies as a constant threat.

Taking down Joki is irrelevant, so I dont need to go in depth on how they can. They scout the real body and kill him. 360 vision, that see right through invisibility (as Databook states he uses water to deflect light and Byakugan see's past that anyway) isn't a threat to these guys.

CQC is the worst thing they can do since if Muu lies a hand of them he turns them too heavy to be able to move. Not to mention the clam genjutsu which would confuse them constantly, and Muu's Jinton which they lack a counter for.
Too many different abilities from the kages and too hard to counter with the hyuugas fighting style.

1st of all Hyuuga's have better strike speed then Mu so you have no proof that he can land it. 2nd of all Mu does not have the ability to heavy, only lighten. DB states its Onoki's ability, which he most likely developed from the weight technique. Otherwise Onoki has no reason to explain to his Master what happens to his body, if he knew how it works[

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@Bold nope[

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@Underline Air palm comes out faster so that helps

Try again

 

[Unorthodox]

The hyuga wins

 

[EZQ]

Taking down Joki is irrelevant, so I dont need to go in depth on how they can. They scout the real body and kill him. 360 vision, that see right through invisibility (as Databook states he uses water to deflect light and Byakugan see's past that anyway) isn't a threat to these guys.




1st of all Hyuuga's have better strike speed then Mu so you have no proof that he can land it. 2nd of all Mu does not have the ability to heavy, only lighten. DB states its Onoki's ability, which he most likely developed from the weight technique. Otherwise Onoki has no reason to explain to his Master what happens to his body, if he knew how it works[

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@Bold nope[

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@Underline Air palm comes out faster so that helps

Try again

Bold 1: Okey, if you think taking down a bomb (which is even faster than Gaara's sand) that can blow you up into pieces is irrelevant, then this conversation ends here. Lol at your argument about finding the real body and kill him, they can't just ignore joki boy and go for the troll kage,

Bold 2: Lmao, not even Sasuke could escape Onoki's jinton, and Muu was clashing his jinton aganst Oonoki's, which is the same jutsu, so jinton is faster than Hyuugas.

Bold 3: What? How is that proof that byakugan users can see trough the trollkage's genjutsu?

Bold 4: Lol, no.

EDIT: And to end all this hyuuga nonsense. Lets suppose Neji and Hiashi are able to find the kages even trough invisibility and illusion. WTF are they doing after that? Both Muu and Gengejtsu would block any atack of these two. Or simply dodge it, Muu's flyin ability surpases the hyuugas reach.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Bold 1: Okey, if you think taking down a bomb (which is even faster than Gaara's sand) that can blow you up into pieces is irrelevant, then this conversation ends here. Lol at your argument about finding the real body and kill him, they can't just ignore joki boy and go for the troll kage,

Its irrelevant because both can destroy it by emitting chakra into it[

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Even then taking out Joki isn't a problem:

1. Shrink version is vulnerable to Juuken, like said first sentence. Even if it doesn't destroy Joki it will sure as hell resets the water building up inside.

2. Growing into a blob before it explodes gets pushed away by Hiashi Air Palm, the same one that repel Juubi's arm.

3. Rotation protects them.

Bold 2: Lmao, not even Sasuke could escape Onoki's jinton, and Muu was clashing his jinton aganst Oonoki's, which is the same jutsu, so jinton is faster than Hyuugas.

Unless Jinton is faster then V1 Raikage speed, which Sasuke was able to react to, then Sasuke's scenario not escaping is irrelevant point to make. Till then, you have no basis to make that claim that Jinton is faster then them. Especially when they can see chakra built before it begins and move away or blast him accordingly.

Bold 3: What? How is that proof that byakugan users can see trough the trollkage's genjutsu?

Try reading. Hinata doesnt know why her team attacks were phasing right through Tobi/Obito. She use you Byakugan to check her surrounds for any genjutsu projection (which is how Mizukage uses his genjutsu) or special clones that fooling them. Therefore that concludes that the Byaukgan can know.

Bold 4: Lol, no.

Air Palm = No charge
Jinton = charge

Byaukgan = see chakra built from inside chakra network, in addition.

EDIT: And to end all this hyuuga nonsense. Lets suppose Neji and Hiashi are able to find the kages even trough invisibility and illusion. WTF are they doing after that? Both Muu and Gengejtsu would block any atack of these two. Or simply dodge it, Muu's flyin ability surpases the hyuugas reach.

@Bold, proof that they can block Juuken?

Muu flying out of reach isn't going to help him. He waste his chakra since they easily read his Jinton snipe. And Manga intel isnt going to make him do that either

 

[EZQ]

Its irrelevant because both can destroy it by emitting chakra into it[

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], and the fact that Manga states the caster is weaken when Joki is out. Take out the original from the clone and the clones disperse.

Even then taking out Joki isn't a problem:

1. Shrink version is vulnerable to Juuken, like said first sentence. Even if it doesn't destroy Joki it will sure as hell resets the water building up inside.

2. Growing into a blob before it explodes gets pushed away by Hiashi Air Palm, the same one that repel Juubi's arm.

3. Rotation protects them.



Unless Jinton is faster then V1 Raikage speed, which Sasuke was able to react to, then Sasuke's scenario not escaping is irrelevant point to make. Till then, you have no basis to make that claim that Jinton is faster then them. Especially when they can see chakra built before it begins and move away or blast him accordingly.



Try reading. Hinata doesnt know why her team attacks were phasing right through Tobi/Obito. She use you Byakugan to check her surrounds for any genjutsu projection (which is how Mizukage uses his genjutsu) or special clones that fooling them. Therefore that concludes that the Byaukgan can know.



Air Palm = No charge
Jinton = charge

Byaukgan = see chakra built from inside chakra network, in addition.



@Bold, proof that they can block Juuken?

Muu flying out of reach isn't going to help him. He waste his chakra since they easily read his Jinton snipe. And Manga intel isnt going to make him do that either

i'm going to reply to this tomorrow. Good night

Unless of course you want to make this an official debate. Then we should proceed on creating a new thread.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

i'm going to reply to this tomorrow. Good night

Unless of course you want to make this an official debate. Then we should proceed on creating a new thread.

Im down for whatever. If you want to do a normal reply then post here. If you want to do an official debate then make the thread (ill post second as I would like to be on the defense).

 

[Beans2]

Muu and Gengetsu win Mid-diff

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Muu and Gengetsu win Mid-diff

I converted to why Hyuuga are bad match ups for them. U_U

 

[EZQ]

Im down for whatever. If you want to do a normal reply then post here. If you want to do an official debate then make the thread (ill post second as I would like to be on the defense).

Okay then lets do that after i finish with Kinghashirama

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Okay then lets do that after i finish with Kinghashirama

VM me when your ready

 

[DMT]

Mū solos with low to mid diff

 

[TurrinB]

Pretty sure both Mu and Gengetsu can solo